Watching the BSDCan videos via @peertube and it's so much better at recovering from intermittent network outages (I listen to things while I drive and often go through areas with poor cellular data coverage) I am impressed!
Leagues better than YouTube, Twitch, Kick. All of which basically give up trying after brief network fussiness.
Oh wow, jokes about OpenBSD being a "theocracy" and I'm sure I'm not the only one to contemplate the definition of Theo as related to the project founder, but this BSDCan talk goes all the way in the liturgical realms from a friggin theologian!
@haitchfive I am reasonably enthused by RISC-V as being comprehensible.
The reference text book on it, The RISC-V Reader: An Open Architecture Atlas by David Patterson, Andrew Waterman is a blessedly short read and reminds me of the to the point simplicity of "K&R" (aka Brian Kernighan and Dennis Ritchie's book: The C Programming Language).
That even MIT created a course Xv6, which is essentially a re-creation of Lion's Commentary on UNIX but for RISC-V (e.g. https://pdos.csail.mit.edu/6.828/2020/xv6.html) to me at least, demonstrates that pedagogy is making an effort, across academic institutions, to put some oomph behind RISC-V as far as educational collaboration, with a lot less of the clandestine skullduggery needed by previous generations.
FreeBSD is probably more popular both in terms of users and commercial reuse, but seems to be a bit more x86/Intel hyper focused? PC-BSD used to exist which kinda made FreeBSD a bit more GUI friendly from the get go, but I think whatever is left of that is probably now in TrueOS?
DragonFlyBSD seems to be the land of fascinating experiments which are too out there for mainstream FreeBSD.
Meanwhile, NetBSD jokingly will run on just about anything including a toaster. However, they do a lot of cross compilation (OpenBSD is very into making sure that builds work on their supported hardware first hand which is extremely useful) and their politics/fallout are why Theo went from being part of core to forking and creating OpenBSD decades ago.
There are other BSDs too, HardenedBSD is FreeBSD derived with more of a security focus, and MirBSD I guess was OpenBSD derived with a modus operandi I could never fully understand ("Mir" means "My" in German), being some examples which come to mind.
In general though, BSDs have sort of a distinct kernel /usr/src and ports /usr/ports but for me at least, still seem much more cohesive than any Linux distro and are much easier to work with source code rather than relying on package maintainers and such and dealing with binaries.
Having written as much, even OpenBSD now has tools such as syspatch and pkg to make working with binary patching easier.
There are lots of interlingual soy milk jokes (comic examples attached).
Though, all this reminds me of DJ Statik (of Das Bunker notoriety, though in more recent years deejayin at Midnight Mess in Tokyo, Japan) going out to Indian food with me and DJ Abattoir (RIP).
He held up a piece of naan bread and asked me: "これはナンですか。” 「kore wa nan desu ka」Translation: "Is this naan?"
Which is a homonym of これは何ですか。「kore wa nan desu ka」 Translation: "What is this?"
Definitely one of those kinds of jokes that required interlingual knowledge and literacy to grok.
@lispi314 I am definitely living below the poverty line.
Honestly, I wouldn't really call it "living" but I have worse news for the "blocks them and then stops using their code" person:
FOSS is already in *everything*.
Always has been. Presumably, always will be.
OpenBSD's libc was forked and is in Android as bionic.
OpenBSD's pf and OpenSSH and LibreSSL are in macOS.
OpenBSD was the basis for Microsoft's SFU (Services For UNIX).
As just, a few examples.
You can't get away from open source software, period.
The TCP/IP stack widely (re)used by everyone on the Internet? Derived from Dr. Marshal Kirk McKusick's work as a grad student at UC Berkeley's CSRG/BSD too.
sendmail? The reference SMTP (email) server? Open source.
BIND? The reference DNS (domain name system) implementation? Open source.
@mike It seems as if @Gargron missed the time when Micro$oft's Exchange (their "email") server broke IMAP support with pine (y'know, the REFERENCE IMAP client)?
Heck, even I missed that until Tim Newsham pointed it out to me, because even though I was working somewhere as a Network Security Specialist and was administering (at the time Exchange 2003) I wasn't testing it with other IMAP clients, because I wasn't getting paid to do that and was using elm/mutt/etc. on my UNIX shells elsewhere.
So, not too sure if email is really a strong counter example for the "embrace extend extinguish" paradigm? I mean, sure SMTP (and even UUCP) server and client implementations exist in abundance, but you don't have to look very far to see how some of the big surveillance capitalism bullies have made it very adversarial.
Last I checked, Micro$oft still *prefers* that Outlook uses MAPI (their own, proprietary BS with Exchange which other companies such as Zimbra have gone to significant lengths to reverse engineer with their ZCO [Zimbra Connector for Outlook]).
@LeDiva Starfleet is a very Earth centric member of the Federation.
So, for example while Vulcan is also part of the Federation, outliers such as Spock (half Vulcan half Earthling) are part of Starfleet, while most other Vulcans seem content to simply be part of Vulcan's contingent within the Federation without feeling any need to join Starfleet as part of this.
/me observes that "The Kid"'s WordPress blog which has some Perl scripts to copy replies from ActivityPub/FediVerse/Mastodon doesn't actually sync changes to those replies if the upstream message was revised.
Still, I guess it's not much different than posting directly to said blog, and also: not being able to edit a post.
/me wonders if the official WordPress ActivityPub/Mastodon support is as bad?
We had libre/free open source BBSes which had message editing functionality in the 1980s, Citadel BBSes' networking even had "anti-vortexing" (their nomenclature for message deduplication). Heck, The Mother of All Demos showed off collaborative networked editing in the 1960s. That kind of functionality, to me, is fundamental. To WordPress in 2023: apparently it's still unimplemented?
Maybe someday I won't be phased by how regressive some popularized technology is, but today is not that day.
@roadriverrail Oh, The Porn Palace -> Armory move was circa 2007.
Last I checked that past employer had sold the building for a hefty profit in 2018 ($65 million, purchase price: $14.5 million circa 2006). I was terminated from that employer in 2014 (for the second time, first termination in 2009), so my own tales have mostly to do with a very specific "adult" content producer, unless you want to talk about my dad, who was stationed there after he was drafted into the National Guard during the Vietnam era.
@miah We had a pretty sizeable hot tub on the roof of the Porn Palace (popular during Friday "Happy Hour" parties, good idea to wait a couple days after the weekend to use again). It was a nice perk.
Alas, after we moved into the SF Amory, I failed to convince management to put a hot tub into one of the turrets. "Safety hazard" they said.
They eventually put a hot tub in the drill court. It was, not used much because: that building is old and dank and there were stale exhaust fumes because people parked in the drill court.
@technomancy Within the warez scene "curry" was sometimes used as short for "courier" though I always thought it would be hilarious to have a warez courier group (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez_group#Courier_groups) called "curry in a hurry" I never got around to it. ;)
Realistically, as a sysadmin, most courier functions could be replaced by something such as rsync; but I got tired of trying to convince those I still knew in the warez scene to use SSH circa 1999 (at the time, they preferred speed to security), so I can understand why more seasoned sysadmins never automated away the curries as a role within the scene.
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