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   silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 05:25:11 JST silverpill

   Ripple/XRP (a cryptocurrency company) just granted 200k USD to Social Web Foundation, "...to research sustainable revenue and operating models for digital publishers and community-run platforms":

   https://interledger.org/news/interledger-foundation-awards-200000-social-web-foundation-support-decentralized-social-media

   This means they will be able to influence the development of the ActivityPub specification at W3C.

   For those who don't know: Interledger, WebMonetization and OpenPayments are basically the same thing, these projects were created by Ripple ~10 years ago in order to insert their cryptocurrency and related payment services into web standards. These projects are sometimes presented as independent, but this is a lie, they are not (not in 2019, not in 2025).

   Needless to say, Ripple itself is a borderline scam: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbloomberg/2019/03/01/is-ripple-a-scam/. It's not even a cryptocurrency really, their infrastructure is completely centralized and no one in cryptocurrency space takes them seriously. But they have a lot of money to bribe people, so I am sure that we will hear more about their adventures soon.

   RE: https://socialwebfoundation.org/?p=99982

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     silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 06:33:51 JST silverpill

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     • kirby

     @kirby Not sure what is Mastodon's role in this, but yeah. It's always Mastodon

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     kirby (kirby@freerobuxextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 06:33:52 JST kirby

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     @silverpill So when's Mastodon just gonna roll out their own federation protocol?
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 09:41:57 JST Phantasm

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     • kirby
     @silverpill @kirby
     its-always-mastodon.png
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     silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 17:18:02 JST silverpill

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     • potatomeow

     @potatomeow They can, but I don't think they will. Given that foundation is a member of Social Web working group (together with Meta), they can adopt a simple business model: money in exchange for favors. And, knowing the people involved, I believe this is exactly what is going on here.

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     potatomeow (potatomeow@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 17:18:04 JST potatomeow

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     @silverpill yah, hopefully ppl know ripple is a scam.

     but what does a grant do in this case. does giving a grant to a foundation forces the foundation to skew their decision the bad way? can the foundation simply say, "thanks for your money, but we do whatever we wanna do. so stop bossing us around."?

     can they not do that?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 18:08:14 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @silverpill hey, thanks for sharing the link!

     Interledger Foundation is also a W3C member, and can join the Working Group directly. They don't need to make this grant to participate in ActivityPub standards.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 18:10:43 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @silverpill

     The grant is for four subprojects:

     1. Fediverse sustainability. What are the economic, psychological and emotional pressures on instance operators and other infrastructure providers? How can we support them?

     2. Creator economy. What social, organizational, and technical infrastructure do content creators depend on? What are we missing on the Fediverse?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 18:12:12 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @silverpill

     3. Cooperatives. social.coop, cosocial.ca and data.coop are all great examples of coops on the fediverse. Does this democratic and participative corporate structure provide an advantage for the Fediverse?

     4. Web Monetization. Many Fediverse projects have implemented this API. We'll be identifying two more multimedia projects and helping them use the protocol.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 18:14:06 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @silverpill this is a restricted grant; we're being paid for the work being done. There's no quid pro quo, except that ILF and SWF both want the Social Web to grow and succeed.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 18:26:16 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @silverpill feel free to tag me next time if you'd like to talk about our work at SWF.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 18:31:00 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Jeremiah Lee

     @silverpill oh, and have you met @Jeremiah ? He's an active participant in the ActivityPub community. A great person for you to meet!

     Jeremiah, do you have any recommended links for someone interested in ActivityPub to learn more about ILF and WM?

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     silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 19:15:28 JST silverpill

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     @evan There's nothing to talk about. I know who these people are and what they are doing.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 19:41:24 JST Evan Prodromou

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     @silverpill which people?

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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 20:28:34 JST Blurry Moon

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     • lainy
     • Phantasm
     • kirby
     @lain @phnt @kirby @silverpill we get them here
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 20:28:36 JST Phantasm

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     • kirby
     @silverpill @kirby Now that this popped up in my timeline again, I completely forgot who social web foundation was. And now I remembered that fediblock mastodon had a meltdown about them couple months ago, after Meta became a sponsor and Mastodon got involved.
     
     Funny thing, Flipboard, a public fediverse scraper, and IFTAS, an autojanny blocklist aggregator, are also involved.
     
     This might be the time, when the network splits completely in half, if they manage to convince Mastodon to do another subject-esque hijack, but on a larger scale.
     
     https://socialwebfoundation.org/2025/03/27/defederation-on-the-fediverse/
     https://socialwebfoundation.org/2025/01/12/content-policy-on-the-social-web/
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 20:28:36 JST lainy

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     • kirby
     @phnt @kirby @silverpill is threads actually connected to the fediverse? i've never seen any threads post federate
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 21:30:02 JST Phantasm

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     @lain @kirby @silverpill @sun yes
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 21:30:03 JST lainy

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     • Phantasm
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     • kirby
     @sun @phnt @kirby @silverpill interesting, so they are just boring
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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 22:31:05 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Phantasm

     @phnt so, for me, the social web is about choice. If you don't want to see creator content, you shouldn't have to.

     I do think that the idea of someone deciding what content is or isn't allowed on the Fediverse is antithetical to that. If you don't want to follow @randahl or @taylorlorenz or whoever, don't. If you think you get to decide whether *I* follow them, well, fuck all the way off.

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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 22:31:06 JST Phantasm

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     • Evan Prodromou
     @evan @silverpill I'm sorry to tell you, but points 2 and 4 (lack thereof) are exactly why I would say most people that have been here for years, came here in the first place. To get away from corporate accounts spam and blatant attempts at engagement farming. The general lack of money making abilities on the Fediverse is why it is attractive to many. If you want an example of the hole you, and others, are digging themselves into, look at Twitter's monetization scheme and try to browse the timelines for a few minutes. Nothing interesting happens there, it's all engagement farming for a few Musk bucks every month.
     
     And point number one reads like a point about moderation, which SWF has talked about multiple times, and centralizing it in some way. Which goes against the very point of Fediverse/AP and all decentralized social media networks. The fact that IFTAS is one of SWF's partners makes this even more alarming.
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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 22:36:15 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Phantasm

     @phnt for sustainability, I don't think that moderation is the only pressure on instance operators, but it's one.

     I don't know where you got the idea that SWF has talked about centralising moderation.

     As for IFTAS, they are awesome. What's your beef with them? They do great work.

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     /b/ (slashb@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2026 23:58:57 JST /b/

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     • Evan Prodromou
     @evan @silverpill >What are the economic
     tree fiddy a month, more when the DB bloats up
     >psychological and emotional pressures on instance operators
     some friends make fun of me for not using X the everything app like normal people
     >How can we support them?
     goth girl feet pics
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     waifu (waifu@mai.waifuism.life)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 00:02:23 JST waifu

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @evan@cosocial.ca @silverpill@mitra.social What are the economic, psychological and emotional pressures on instance operators and other infrastructure providers?A lotHow can we support them? Two shawarma pls I am instante operator

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     cassidyclown (cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 00:49:41 JST cassidyclown

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     • Evan Prodromou
     @evan @silverpill
     
     > Fediverse sustainability. What are the economic, psychological and emotional pressures on instance operators and other infrastructure providers? How can we support them?
     
     I cry and shit myself everyday please give me $250,000 thx
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     cassidyclown (cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 00:58:48 JST cassidyclown

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     • meso
     @meso @evan @silverpill rip everyone except phnt's instance is defeded in this thread - even waifu
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     meso (meso@new.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 00:58:49 JST meso

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     • meso
     @evan @silverpill we are a pillar of the community
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     meso (meso@new.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 00:58:50 JST meso

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     • Evan Prodromou
     @evan @silverpill give me money
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     waifu (waifu@mai.waifuism.life)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 01:12:15 JST waifu

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     • meso

     @cassidyclown@clubcyberia.co @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @evan@cosocial.ca @silverpill@mitra.social i am being discriminated for being a black watermelon that loves to eat fried chicken (real actually)

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 03:04:27 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Phantasm

     @phnt I didn't ask for your permission on how I reply.

     It sounds like you get blocked a lot. Maybe you should think about why that is.

     Good luck on the Fediverse!

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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 03:04:28 JST Phantasm

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     • Evan Prodromou
     @evan I agree that you should be able to see content you want, and don't see content you don't want. Nobody should have a say in that except the user. It's more of a network culture issue though. That content isn't generally liked by people on the Fediverse, so you should expect large parts of the network not being happy about that content arriving here. Same with the more "corporate" content, but even worse. Hetzner despite hosting a good chunk of the Fediverse wasn't welcomed well last year, when they joined some Mastodon server. And you probably already familiar with the pushback caused by Meta/Facebook/Threads joining the network and the secret NDAd meeting that happened before it joined.
     
     This who should have the say though can be expanded even more. Both accounts you tagged are on mastodon.social, but neither of them will actually see any of my posts, because some random moderator I never talked to decided to deactivate my remote account there. Why should a random person I never talked be able to decide who sees my posts and who I can follow on mastodon.social. To be clear, I'm not advocating for some absolutely moderation-less network, but it is a valid extension of that logic. Which brings me to IFTAS.
     
     IFTAS is specifically the centralized moderation thing I talked about regarding SWF. They are a non-profit ran by at least in the past very opionated people (one of which being the Nexus of Privacy author jdp23; their current members aren't listed I think). They run an auto-defederation tool whose sources aren't publicly published anywhere I could find and the actual full lists isn't publicly published anywhere either. Only the "DNI" one is, which as I understand is a small chunk of the full one. They require you to sign in with an admin account of your instance, to their portal in order to manage the tool and even figure out what the list is. Being this non-transparent on a decentralized open network should raise eyebrows of most people. Which is why I'm not hesitant to call them centralized moderation.
     
     I oppose any kind of this "moderation" where biases are high and transparency is nil. That includes IFTAS and all other lists. Moderation should be done on a case-by-case basis, by the administrators/moderators of an instance and not by trusting a random 3rd party with zero transparency to do it for you. If it should exist, I don't think it should, then it should at least be completely decentralized, but all attempts at that failed. Look how fediblock turned out and when someone from the Mastodon side wanted to make an alternative, where admins/moderators could add ratings to other instances in an attempt to build a more reputable list compared to Oliphant's one, GardenFence, Seirdy's one or even IFTAS, they got harassed by various groups of these listed blocklists to the point of abandoning the attempt and going away from Fedi for at least some time. I forgot what the project was called, sorry, otherwise I would at least link it. Any reasonable attempt has so far turned into a witch hunt, where I can almost guarantee that one of the biggest sources of stress for Fediverse administrators isn't running the instance, but fearing of being featured on something like fediblock, where witch hunts are everywhere and reasonable moderation decisions nowhere to be found.
     
     As to when SWF talked about moderation, here are a few posts. The linked blog posts are mostly sound, though. It's the IFTAS part I don't like at all.
     https://socialwebfoundation.org/2025/03/27/defederation-on-the-fediverse/
     https://socialwebfoundation.org/2025/01/12/content-policy-on-the-social-web/
     
     The sustainability part minus moderation is an easy one to solve. There should be more instances, preferably less Mastodon ones, so that costs aren't as high and moderation spreads out more. mastodon.social having over 300K users is the worst thing that could have happened.
     
     Also please don't untag @silverpill unless he specifically requests to do so. I want a healthy discussion about valid concerns and not a half-split thread.
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     silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 05:46:29 JST silverpill

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     • kirby

     @phnt @kirby The new Mastodon CEO seems to be fully on board with this bland corporate no-fun-allowed "social web".

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     受不了包 (shibao@misskey.bubbletea.dev)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 14:38:59 JST 受不了包

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     • Phantasm
     @evan@cosocial.ca @phnt@fluffytail.org great response, i really liked how you directly addressed the items of concern brought up and as someone who has been stigmatized, blocked and harassed by many ideologically motivated groups, this makes me confident in IFTAS's past and future actions to change the social environment i've found as a refuge into a healthier social environment where i might not get discriminated against as much!
     
     although there are many people on this network that have too much respect for open communication in lieu of stricter rules of engagement, and platforms like Misskey, the one I'm using, that are largely culturally orthogonal to mainstream western perspectives, i'm sure with more good faith discussion like this we can navigate these challenges to build a clearly better fediverse for everyone
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     @cassidyclown @evan @silverpill unironically, @Wiz , the admin of this instance, is in bad health and has been shitting himself a lot.
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     @mischievoustomato @cassidyclown @evan @silverpill if you wanna give me 1/4 mil for my bowels, I'll take it though
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     sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 15:19:02 JST sapphire

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     • Phantasm
     @phnt @evan @silverpill >Why should a random person I never talked be able to decide who sees my posts and who I can follow on mastodon.social.
     
     This isn’t really a moderation problem, it’s a fundamental misuse of the software by the random person. People should not be using large instances where moderation is distinct from the user base. Fediverse should be a network of “sysadmin and his immediate social network” sized instances, not poast and mastodon where the majority of the user base isn’t substantively socially connected with their staff.
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     @evan @phnt
     
     > It sounds like you get blocked a lot.
     
     "You sound unpopular, nerd."
     
     Thank you for addressing his concerns about transparency.
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     • kirby
     @lain @phnt @kirby @silverpill Single-user instances are forbidden. You must have a CoC and a publicly visible TWKN.
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     • meso
     @meso @evan @silverpill can confirm meso is necessary for the fabric of the fediverse
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 17:53:50 JST Phantasm

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     @lain @kirby @silverpill They are, Jeff Cliff sometimes talks to them I think. They have a very large blocklist though.
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 17:54:09 JST Phantasm

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     • Phantasm
     @evan @silverpill
     >If you want an example of the hole you, and others, are digging themselves into, look at Twitter's monetization scheme and try to browse the timelines for a few minutes. Nothing interesting happens there, it's all engagement farming for a few Musk bucks every month.
     
     Another one would be Nostr and "Zaps", which are very similar to what Twitter does, but directed by users instead.
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 17:54:30 JST Pawlicker

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     • Phantasm
     @phnt @evan @silverpill YouTube monetization before that and how shittier it got
     You can see how the wheels fell off the gravy train by looking at who was big then and now: then it was awkward let's players who could make enough to retire if they were smart
     Now it's just mrbeasts soulless grin and he actually needs investors for his slop as opposed to a guy and a camera and a virtual bridge
     https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/15/mrbeast-company-gets-200-million-investment-from-tom-lees-bitmine.html
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 17:56:03 JST Phantasm

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     @silverpill @kirby If that is true (I don't know, I don't keep follow him), then I have to say a sentence I never expected to say. Can we have Gargron back?
     
     At least I was right in my quick judgement: https://fluffytail.org/objects/44269550-92cd-4e04-8ec2-03ecd99f5b50
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     • Evan Prodromou
     @cassidyclown @evan @silverpill #mutualaid
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     meso (meso@new.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 17:57:24 JST meso

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     • Evan Prodromou
     @cassidyclown @evan @silverpill we isnt getting stimulus checks
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 18:01:39 JST Phantasm

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     @evan Bye. Seems that attempts at a healthy discussion aren't welcome.
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 18:02:56 JST Phantasm

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     • FourOh-LLC
     • kirby
     @FourOh-LLC @kirby @silverpill I don't think it's an issue. At this point the network is split so much and diverse enough, that if an actual takeover of the protocol happens, nobody except those involved (Mastodon) would implement it.
     
     If Mastodon wants to make a splinter network, they can, and very little people would care I think. Actual development would continue anyway through FEPs and progress on a spec alà LitePub, but built from FEPs would probably accelerate if people realized it's necessary.
     
     Maybe pointless and endless discussions why a certain special URI should be banned would finally stop.
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     FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 18:02:57 JST FourOh-LLC

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     • kirby
     Lemmy started out by building their own protocol, which was totally justified for their reddit-like rating and all the potential feature sets - then they switched to AP. The best way to make it impossible for VC to capture a project is by staying small and fractured, like Zot and ZAP.
     
     The Fedi relying so much on AP is a death-knell.
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     Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 18:03:15 JST Jeff "never listens to women" Cliff, B.Sc. 😷 🇮🇷🇱🇧🇨🇦🧯🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🐧

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     @lain @phnt @kirby @silverpill
     
     feb 2 post https://www.threads.com/@mistakenotmy/post/DURDgYwDWze federates out here to spw.
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     @lain Joe Biden was posting on threads. Not anymore though.

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     obviously we disagree with this, but still interesting

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     Pi_rat (pi_rat@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 18:04:09 JST Pi_rat

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     @evan @phnt It seems like you get called retard a lot, maybe you should think why.
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     @evan @silverpill
     >1. Fediverse sustainability. What are the economic, psychological and emotional pressures on instance operators and other infrastructure providers? How can we support them?
     import https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/fse-vs-fbi.html
     
     >2. Creator economy. What social, organizational, and technical infrastructure do content creators depend on? What are we missing on the Fediverse?
     If you can figure out how to do money transfers in a way that isn't a massive doxxfest and also doesn't constantly get shat on by investors, bankers, governments, etc., you'll probably make a few million from people thanking you for freeing them from that bullshit.
     (Hint: BMT Micro is about as close as we'll ever get.)
     
     >3. Cooperatives. social.coop, cosocial.ca and data.coop are all great examples of coops on the fediverse. Does this democratic and participative corporate structure provide an advantage for the Fediverse?
     The whole point of decentralisation is that everybody is effectively free to moderate themselves: They choose an instance that they like the moderation of, if such doesn't exist, they create it. So, no, it's good for an arena game and that's about it. (I've toyed with the idea of writing a bot that's capable of parsing rules to some extent that can be set as the head of an instance where people try to manipulate each other into voting for rules that will get themselves banned, but for it to be fun I think you have to allow sufficiently arbitrary rules that a bot would never be capable of enforcing them.)
     
     >4. Web Monetization. Many Fediverse projects have implemented this API. We'll be identifying two more multimedia projects and helping them use the protocol.
     ur an fgt, and worse, a mastodonger
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     @evan @silverpill
     > How can we support them?
     by not being retards
     
     >What are we missing on the Fediverse?
     retards
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     @Zergling_man @evan @silverpill I was gonna say, like, the inciting incident to that post was the thing that distressed me the most, aside from the machine that used to explode on a regular basis.
     
     > a mastodonger
     
     :thejesus:
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     @phnt @kirby @silverpill @FourOh-LLC on top of that the Mastodon/similar people don't know the people they want to wipe off the internet exist because they're blocked, they just complain about that bizzare bug where they can't see posts that are being replied to
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     @p @evan @silverpill @Zergling_man I think the takeaway from this thread is that only silverpill, me, mia, mirq and dav1d federate to his little coop instance. Everyone else in this thread is defederated by them.
     
     An author of ActivityPub living on one of the most walled of instances I've seen.
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     @p @phnt @kirby @lain @silverpill oh
     Lmao lame
     #cucked from cross-platform wife stalking
     Pack it up
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 18:18:59 JST pistolero

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     @phnt @Zergling_man @evan @silverpill Well, I don't think you're gonna stay federated with him for long if you keep saying terrible things like "Please don't untag".
     
     On the other hand, it may involve a disability: he had to split up a 4-item list into two posts because of his character limit.
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     @phnt @Zergling_man @evan @silverpill
     
     > I wanted to discuss why most of the grant is counterproductive to the network and that's impossible now
     
     I think it was impossible before. Dude has the same reek that the Newsmast Foundation has.
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     @p @evan @silverpill @Zergling_man At this point I don't care if he nukes my instance. I wanted to discuss why most of the grant is counterproductive to the network and that's impossible now, because he blocked me. He's a member of "trust and safety" on that instance, so it's possible that he will nuke it.
     
     All I wanted was to point out the counterproductive nature of half the points the grant is funding, talk about and maybe convince him to change his mind on some of it. And we ended up here. Honestly expected better from someone who has been here since GS days.
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     Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 18:33:02 JST Nicholas Conrad

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     "Witch hunting is bad, actually."

     "Sounds like something a witch would say." :thonk:

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     @mirq @kirby @lain @phnt @silverpill
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     Encyclopædia Autistica (Order Now!) (mrsaturday@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 06-Feb-2026 18:39:25 JST Encyclopædia Autistica (Order Now!)

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     @sun @lain @kirby @phnt @silverpill And there are approximately 0 posts we get worth reading
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     👆 This nigger be like... I do what I want because I'm a nigger.
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     @ripplestream After Ripple forced everyone to abandon non-custodial wallets and move to Gatehub, there was a "protocol upgrade" that made it impossible to spend a fixed portion of your account balance. In other words, they stole it.

     Anyway, what's the deal with this Inteledger and co? Why everyone pretends that these projects are independent from Ripple?

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     @sicp @evan @p @silverpill @Zergling_man There isn't that much to fix in the protocol. Only the specification needs serious fixes, because it doesn't reflect reality now. In other words it is way too vague and unhelpful. So far from what I look at, FEPs are mostly just that. Documenting what already exists in a series of documents that can be referred later and possibly made into an "ActivityPub 2" later.
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     @phnt @evan @p @silverpill @Zergling_man Ah yeah thanks. I don't think it'd be out of style for them to come out one day and say "Here's ActivityPub 2, it isn't compatible in any meaningful way with ActivityPub 1 which we're dropping now, so Migrate or Die" and I wouldn't really shed a tear if every Mastodon instance dissapeared from the timeline tomorrow, but in a sense I feel like it goes both ways: trying to "fix" an existing protocol is usually a fools errand, while if someone makes it worse but still compatible you can just ignore the junk. But if a protocol is suboptimal enough that a whole class of engineering problems have to be focused on the protocol itself instead of the engines that send it around, working from a clean slate isn't so bad.
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     @phnt @Zergling_man @evan @p @silverpill > trying to "fix" an existing protocol is usually a fools errand,
     Maybe not 'usually' but sometimes; if someone tried to pull the IPv6 of fedi it might be successful but hardly an overnight change.
     > But if a protocol is suboptimal enough that a whole class of engineering problems have to be focused on the protocol itself instead of the engines that send it around, working from a clean slate isn't so bad.
     Also I don't want to imply that I think they would have the foresight to consider this.
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     @phnt @evan @p @silverpill @Zergling_man In a sense I feel like even if this development actually has any teeth it's not going to be a big consequence in the long run: if they're talking about the next evolution of fedi, then what a committee-steered project with a budget of $200K can half ass in a few years, some hacker with a budget of cup noodles and a vision can whip up in a few months and likely actually achieve its goals. The right kind of software (stares at p) I think would basically make their approach obsolete overnight and actually achieve whatever "sustainability" they're talking about; they just have their head so deep in the sand they can't formulate any part of it.
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     @sicp @evan @p @silverpill @Zergling_man See my previous post: https://fluffytail.org/objects/030aff68-caf7-4da0-b7d4-f105505226a3
     
     I think it is counterproductive to try to create yet another third protocol instead of trying to fix an already heavily established and more or less proven to work one. The reinvent the wheel mindset of, oops this failed; we have to reinvent it; is a dangerous one.
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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Saturday, 07-Feb-2026 00:41:41 JST 

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     • touch fluffy tail (Heroic) :verified:
     @phnt @evan @fluffy @p @silverpill @Zergling_man >Mastodon does not truncate long posts
     :)
     Screenshot 2026-02-06 at 13-38-…
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     • touch fluffy tail (Heroic) :verified:
     @fluffy @evan @p @silverpill @Zergling_man Mastodon does not truncate long posts, mine was over 4K characters and federated fine.
     
     What Mastodon does is make it intentionally hard to change the character limit. You have to change an integer in like four places for it to work. Same with number of poll options. Here's a little bit of history: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/5697
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     @p @phnt @Zergling_man @evan @silverpill
     >he had to split up a 4-item list into two posts because of his character limit.
     out of curiosity, why wouldn't you simply increase your character limit?
     if it's like x/twitter, where your character limit is increased if you pay for a premium subscription, shouldn't he have that as a serious guy? is there some angle here where he's a free-tier user intentionally...?
     otherwise, isn't mastodon free software? can't he just make the (presumably simple) modification to increase it? it's probably faster to increase the limit than to split up posts if you're going to split them more than a couple times. or maybe, the masto servers truncate posts past the character limit when serving them, so even if he increases on his server, others won't see the longer posts, they are truncated.
     
     just making guesses, the behavior is surprising to me
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     DEUS VULT!
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     The easiest way to not have to worry about threads is to not be highly moderated HR approved drivel.
     
     None of us are allowed to see threads posts. As God intended.
     
     All these lefties who are terrified of threads ought to think a bit harder as to why the corpos want to take over their fediverse and not ours.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 07-Feb-2026 00:54:18 JST Hoss Delgado

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     Damn straight we get blocked a lot. I just pulled ahead of Zuck on the seethe leaderboard #winning
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     silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Saturday, 07-Feb-2026 01:45:40 JST silverpill

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     @phnt @kirby @FourOh-LLC Engineers are more likely to agree on things because constraints are nearly the same in every project. Resources are limited and all users ask for similar features.

     At least with FEPs, disagreements are not a big problem.

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     @silverpill @kirby @FourOh-LLC I would prefer that as well, but at least from my view, those two projects are the only "worth it" part anyway. If it happens, then oh well. Personally I don't care much about anything else besides that. Trying to build fully interoperable "mega apps" isn't worth it. Forums can talk to other forums, microblogs can talk to other microblogs. Actual blogging (not microblogs) platforms only have to support the absolute basic of Create(Object(Note))) and same with video platforms.
     
     Trying to build support for everything into everything won't end well and the UX will be a complete mess. The protocol supports it, but making UX work is another thing. Different projects for different things, which are unrelated is imo better.
     
     And with W3C, I don't think there is much to save when original spec authors are so defensive about their funding and intentions that they have to resort to cheap ad hominem arguments to get out of a conversation. An alternative could work, but you end up with the same issue. A protocol made by a committee where nothing ever happens, because nobody fully agrees on what is the "proper" way. Not really sure how to solve this one.
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     @phnt @kirby @FourOh-LLC I'd prefer to avoid a network split. Most of the development still happens around Mastodon, maybe even more than 5 years ago. if there is a split it will look like Pleroma vs Misskey vs everyone else, not like Mastodon vs everyone else.

     What fedi needs is an alternative to W3C, one that is run by people who actually build things, not by linked data theorycels.

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     @Phobos @eriner @Hoss @evan @p @phnt unironically what they should do, whitelist federation
     unfortunately then they can't pretend to be an open network
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     @Hoss @evan @phnt @p I always get a kick out of KF being on the list even though there was never a fedi server on that domain, lol.

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     @eriner @Hoss @evan @phnt @p One can never be too careful. Better blacklist every single domain on the Internet, just in case.
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     @sicp @phnt @Zergling_man @evan @silverpill Yeah, I'm not exactly worried about the guy. They aren't really against centralization. I took the survey they gave last year and the questions ranged from "completely irrelevant" to "insulting"; the main problem was that they were looking for a conclusion and the survey assumed the conclusion. That is, the survey existed to validate the thing they wanted to push. It was stuff like "Do you suffer mental health problems because of unmoderated content?" and "Would an automated blocking system help you block better?" and I was all the way in the "fuck these guys with a rake" territory by the time I got to the end. This "but people *love* ~*~cOnTeNt~*~" thing he's doing today is new and I don't think I have ever heard the words "If you don't like creator content" but the phrase "creator content" makes me involuntarily reach for the nearest firearm.
     
     :newproduct: This is ~*~cOnTeNt~*~. It was created by a creator. A creator created this creator content. Don't you like creator content?
     :npc: I eat psyop and shit psyop.
     :newproduct: Everything can be content if you're sociopathic enough.
     :npc: I only like content from content creators. I like creator content.
     :newproduct: Creator content.
     :gunleft::elliotfuriou::gunright: ALLOW ME TO MAKE A FEW POINTS
     
     > (stares at p)
     
     I'm workin' on it.
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     @Zergling_man @sicp @evan @phnt @silverpill :walter: He's a pervert, dude.
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     @sicp @silverpill @p @phnt @evan Our lord and saviour @p
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     @Zergling_man @evan @phnt @p @silverpill :revolvertan:
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     @fluffy @Zergling_man @evan @phnt @silverpill
     
     > out of curiosity, why wouldn't you simply increase your character limit?
     
     Because the power of Branding compels you.
     
     > can't he just make the (presumably simple) modification to increase it?
     
     Look at the guy's abatap and tell me he knows how to type `git grep`.
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     @sicp @silverpill @p @phnt @evan SOON™, we will have vol2!
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     • touch fluffy tail (Heroic) :verified:
     @mint @silverpill @p @fluffy @phnt @evan I love fedi
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     @Zergling_man @evan @p @phnt @silverpill
     >twitard
     >mastodongs
     bro still living in the drumpf era haha
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     • touch fluffy tail (Heroic) :verified:
     @fluffy @silverpill @p @phnt @evan You've got to understand the twitard mindset, which makes up a large portion of mastodongs: They always liked the character limit that discourages them from having meaningful conversation. That wasn't what made them hate twitter.
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     @fluffy @Zergling_man @evan @phnt @silverpill We still have mastodongs and also drumpf!
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     @phnt @Zergling_man @evan @p @silverpill
     oh so it becomes a social problem.
     you're a dev and you do the (well documented by now via this PR) change to increase your character limit. but enforcing this limit is a design philosophy of some one guy, will he feel insulted? will you be able to cooperate later if you make this change? it's unknown, better leave it as is and suffer a tiny amount vs lose out big later.
     
     this explains it to me, thanks fluffytailbro.
     
     pic unrelated
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     @sicp @silverpill @p @phnt @evan >IPv6
     Man, my ISP gives me a 12-hour lease on my prefix. I am not asking for that, but that's what I get. (If I am asking for a particular duration it's like a week minimum.)
     I don't know if my router is supposed to auto-renew it when it expires, but it doesn't, so I have a fucking cron job to restart the interface twice a day and now my ipv6 works flawlessly(?)
     
     We literally just wanted ipv4 with more address space and no NAT faggotry, how did it end up like this
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     @Zergling_man @sicp @evan @phnt @silverpill
     
     > my ISP gives me a 12-hour lease on my prefix
     
     :mcafeewat:
     
     > I don't know if my router is supposed to auto-renew it when it expires, but it doesn't
     
     :irvingwat:
     
     > so I have a fucking cron job to restart the interface twice a day
     
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     @Zergling_man @evan @phnt @p @silverpill My ISP doesn't even offer IPv6 so I've never had a chance to play with it. I was just using it as a placeholder term for "incompatible successor protocol with overblown goals compared to the original".
     
     > We literally just wanted ipv4 with more address space and no NAT faggotry, how did it end up like this
     There's more money to be made prolonging the problem than delivering the solution. I think a plausible conspiracy theory is that IPv6 was actually designed so nobody would want to adopt it, even down to the cosmetic details: an IPv4 address is perfectly readable, right? It's just four numbers-- you can fit it into your head. An IPv6 address is all kinds of shit: I don't even really get how they work.
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     @mint @evan @phnt @fluffy @p @silverpill @Zergling_man :hehe:
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     @Zergling_man @evan @phnt @sicp @p @silverpill
     >I believe you entirely in that they deliberately tried to make it unreadable, but I think they failed at it.
     I got you fam https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8369
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     @sicp @silverpill @p @phnt @evan On average, an ipv6 address isn't much worse than an ipv4 address.
     eg. I have 117.53.128.146 vs 2407:5400:1100:9200::202. You basically need to pay attention to all of it either way. If I used dead:beef instead of :202, it'd be pretty close.
     In a local situation where you only tend to care about the last byte, again, much the same, you only care about what follows ::.
     
     I believe you entirely in that they deliberately tried to make it unreadable, but I think they failed at it.
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     @phnt
     btw, if any of them are claiming it's going to be difficult to fix this, glitch-soc does it right now.

     in fact it's so easy on glitch-soc, I mistakenly thought vanilla mastodon added the feature.
     @evan @fluffy @p @silverpill @Zergling_man

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     @eriner @Hoss @evan @phnt
     
     > KF being on the list even though there was never a fedi server on that domain
     
     https://fba.ryona.agency/?domain=fedilist.com ...Although a couple of instances make it "followers-only". :brandt:
     
     Several people had blocked screamshitter.club before I even assigned an A-record. It just sat unused for a couple of years. They apparently were keeping tabs on me because I wrote when I bought it.
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     Congratulations Boss 🫡
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     @Hoss @evan @phnt @p I bet leafposter.club's blocks were all due to leaflord alone lol
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     @sampler @Zergling_man @evan @phnt @sicp @silverpill Give it a minute.
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     @p @evan @phnt @sicp @silverpill @Zergling_man i'm so glad to be using revolver so i don't have to worry stuff like Mastadon Network accepting epstein dollors anymore.
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     @phnt @evan @fluffy @p @silverpill @Zergling_man at least mastodon doesn't have a slur filter (yet, get to work @Gargron / @james@abdl.link ) https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/a3f8f1905ca5e281cdca93d11f00e3e6eb4d4bf7/crates/utils/src/utils/slurs.rs#L54
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     @menherahair @evan @Phobos @p @eriner @Hoss That's what Oliphant does with GTS and his project called "Islands" now. (Read: echo chambers.) Simply put, a series of lists instances you can join/request to join based on their "neighbors" and interests/topics.
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     @phnt @evan @Phobos @p @eriner @Hoss welcome back webrings
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     @sampler @phnt @Gargron @Zergling_man @evan @fluffy @silverpill Line 56 reminded me of the hotline video.
     
     Slightly more seriously, they appear to be new to the internet and unable to remember how inventive people are.
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     @phnt Personally, I find the reinvent-the-wheel mindset very healthy. It's literally how we got here, how evolution works, but that was not what I wanted to say.

     What I wanted to say was this: we are using a protocol that, sooner or later, will get coopted, and the big players will force everybody else to adopt whatever they come up with; so maybe we should start studying the protocol as it is now, find ways to improve on it (even if that means a complete reinvention) and make it capitalism-proof. And we better do it now that when AP becomes AP+Crypto or AP+Meta.

     @evan @sicp @p @silverpill @Zergling_man

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     > capitalism-proof
     
     :ancapchansmug:
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     @phnt @evan @Phobos @menherahair @p @eriner @Hoss how the fuck does GTS get worse dear god
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     > Right, I forgot about that.
     
     I might have actually gotten that from you. I wish I'd kept the questions around.
     
     > the fact that they begged for $100K USD last year and now are partners in some fedi corpo foundation is interesting
     
     Yeah, same smell as Channels/NewsMast (who bought indieweb.social).
     
     > Mastodon is already full of spam and bots
     
     The point I would have made if the missing "s" hadn't completely ruined the comedic potential was more that the guy speaks a very foreign language with very different underlying assumptions.
     
     > Awakari (remember that aggressive scraper?)
     
     Which aggressive scraper? Please feel free to link-dump.
     
     > Essentially killing Fedi by making non-automodded social media illegal (mandating automod to be more precise),
     
     Yeah, and flip a coin whether they beat the "but child pornography!" drum or the "but right-wing extremism!" drum. (Those two bogeymen do some pretty heavy lifting nowadays.) They seem to be using both.
     
     Luckily, there's no CP or extremism on any of these heavily modded mastodong instances.
     
     > boomers trying to ban use of Github without an ID in Australia, because they thought it was a social media.
     
     Goddammit. And you know, Wisconsin was mulling a statewide VPN ban because of the anti-porn law, right?
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     >survey
     
     Right, I forgot about that. Also the fact that they begged for $100K USD last year and now are partners in some fedi corpo foundation is interesting.
     
     https://about.iftas.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Fediverse-Trust-Safety-Needs-Assessment-Report-2024.pdf
     https://wedistribute.org/2025/02/iftas-funding-crisis/
     https://about.iftas.org/2025/03/03/iftas-service-shutdowns/
     
     >CoNtEnT
     
     I'm not really worried about that at all. Mastodon is already full of spam and bots, so that won't change much. But the 4-item list had very "corpospeak" vibes nonetheless.
     
     What I'm more worried about is the centralization of moderation, aka IFTAS, gaining more traction with the help of funding and various new-ish weird projects like Newmast, Flipboard, the now dead Awakari (remember that aggressive scraper?) and similar. A centralized moderation platform, even just a blocklist aggregator like IFTAS so far, are prime targets for a slippery slope of government interference with Fedi. It gives them a very juicy excuse to effectively censor or outright ban Fedi, if you don't implement some kind of automod, like IFTAS is already making. Essentially killing Fedi by making non-automodded social media illegal (mandating automod to be more precise), which all platforms except Fedi/Nostr would effectively pass.
     
     They are basically making a tool that could endanger the network without realizing it. Will it ever happen? Who knows, but it is certainly possible when you look at boomers trying to ban use of Github without an ID in Australia, because they thought it was a social media.
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     @p @Zergling_man @evan @sicp @silverpill Also IFTAS requires you to log in to their site with an admin account to manage the tool that auto-defederates instances, so it is trivial to turn it into an automated messages scanner that deletes messages at will. It already has the necessary access.
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     why didn't they call it slu.rs? what a missed opportunity
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     > btw, if any of them are claiming it's going to be difficult to fix this, glitch-soc does it right now.
     
     I think that's the only feature they have that I am aware of.
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     @phnt @Zergling_man @evan @sicp @silverpill
     
     > I meant Awakari.
     
     Yeah, just an oblique remark that there are so many.
     
     > They operated a large follow bot
     > https://fluffytail.org/objects/9b00f882-76b8-4e56-897b-4955b61e3795
     
     Right, yeah, I remember this one.
     
     > It was supposed to be something similar to Flipboard where scraped content was put into "interest groups" you could follow or something like that.
     
     And Newsmast, though Newsmast claims to curate (though I found out about Newsmast after deploying https://git.freespeechextremist.com/gitweb/?p=fse;a=blob;f=lib/site/mrf/shut_yr_mouth_about_them_politics.ex;h=2d861996b79deb2a1df69f59fa2d18a0472ff966;hb=HEAD , which demonstrated that there is definitely zero curation being done, because a handful of their bots would repost everything coming out of FSE.
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     >Which aggressive scraper? Please feel free to link-dump.
     I meant Awakari. They operated a large follow bot, so technically not a scraper since they did it the correct AP way. But it was pretty aggressive in terms of that it would follow large swaths of people completely randomly in a very noisy way. There also was according to my federated users list an Awakari account on Flipboard so they may be related?
     
     It was supposed to be something similar to Flipboard where scraped content was put into "interest groups" you could follow or something like that.
     
     https://fluffytail.org/objects/9b00f882-76b8-4e56-897b-4955b61e3795
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     @josemanuel @evan @sicp @p @silverpill @Zergling_man Reinventing the wheel is not how we got here. ActivityPub is very similar to semantics to Ostatus/StatusNet. It's very similar except XML got switched for JSON(-LD) and some semantics changed.
     
     It is unhealthy to reinvent a protocol that has hundreds of thousands of users and thousands of instances depending on it. The ActivityPub specification is well understood and since it's an open protocol, you can't really force it on anybody. There are tens of individual implementations of the protocol, which would need to be rewritten, sometimes from scratch, to support the new protocol. It simply does not make sense. Nostr tried to reinvent the wheel and failed to get traction so far. (Mostly because nothing interesting happens there and it has a serious spam issue.)
     
     If you fear that Meta or whoever decides to takeover the specification and force it on everybody via Mastodon, Mastodon is loosing ground to Bluesky in terms of users even though Bsky is only something like a year out to the public. Mastodon does not have that much leverage anymore where they can shape the network to their own liking.
     
     Worst I think can happen is that some stupid backwards-incompatible change happens, so existing servers will have to support both representations of something for the foreseeable future.
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     > Do you prefer these corpo motherfuckers dictating the terms of what is rightfully ours
     
     The mistake is the dichotomy: the problem isn't the commercial activity, it's the voluntary loss of agency and the injection of politics. Most of the people voting "yes please decide for me" are "anti-capitalists" to begin with.
     
     :stirner: "It's yours if you use it."
     
     Whose is it if you don't? Conflating corporatist dingii with capitalism introduces a divisive false dichotomy. "Either you think these guys should be the ones to determine the future of the protocol or you oppose capitalism" is kind of absurd, isn't it?
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     Do you prefer these corpo motherfuckers dictating the terms of what is rightfully ours, @p? Ancap is a contradiction in terms.

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     @josemanuel @p @evan @phnt @sicp @silverpill @Zergling_man
     the corporations will do it anyway and will hijack ANY standards body there is to do it and then point to the standards body (three big tech corpos in a trenchcoat) as being responsible

     anarchy enforcing something different than free market isn't anarchy, it's collectivism. nobody in anarchy prevents people from doing a collective - it's usually even a good idea for business, like with farmer owned dairies.

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     > the standards body (three big tech corpos in a trenchcoat)
     
     Every single time.
     
     > anarchy enforcing something different than free market isn't anarchy
     
     Seconded.
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     @p @ins0mniak @evan @phnt @sicp @silverpill @josemanuel @Zergling_man :stirner: "The catalytic converters are free. You can take them home. I have 54 dead school busses at the storage yard down the street"
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     @mrsaturday @Zergling_man @evan @ins0mniak @josemanuel @phnt @sicp @silverpill The elites don't want you to know this!
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     @josemanuel @evan @phnt @sicp @silverpill @Zergling_man
     
     > anarchism predicates that there should be no rulers
     
     So who stops me from exchanging fungible currency for goods and services?
     
     > You can't be an anarchist and a capitalist.
     
     See attached.
     
     > (I'm not saying you are an idiot yourself, p
     
     You can say it, I've been called worse by friends.
     
     > respect
     
     Shucks and dang, friend. :bigbosssalute:
     
     > in the words of Darth Vader, “you know it to be true.”
     
     I do not believe it to be true, no. I am a Southwesterner by birth and by temperament. I'm happy as long as no one engages in the coercive use of force and that if there is an attempt, I can respond to that attempt. We had this, out in the west, until the glowies set up shop: the bank was as as secure as its ability to defend itself. Some towns didn't want you to enter heavily armed: a collective interested in preserving the security of the collective. I don't have trouble with such an arrangement. Someone comes after me, I'll open fire. It seems reasonable to me: non serviam, sed pacta servabo.
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     @p Not at all. Ancap is a contradiction in terms because anarchism predicates that there should be no rulers (which usually translates into societies based on collaboration), while capitalim, as we can see time and time again, means that whoever owns what you need or want rules over you (i.e., your boss dictates what you do with your time and how much you get paid for it; companies dictate what you pay for goods and services). You can't be an anarchist and a capitalist. You have to choose.

     I'm sure most ancaps think of themselves as rebels and anti-system, but they're nothing but useful idiots. (I'm not saying you are an idiot yourself, p, I unironically respect you, but in the words of Darth Vader, “you know it to be true.”)

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     @p @evan @phnt @sicp @silverpill @bonifartius @josemanuel @Zergling_man ever go to the dmv? Thats literally what the entire federal government is like
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     > ever go to the dmv?
     
     If purgatory existed, I feel like that would be it.
     
     > Thats literally what the entire federal government is like
     
     And the state government in most states.
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     @p
     >> (I'm not saying you are an idiot yourself, p
     > You can say it, I've been called worse by friends.

     I still wouldn't. I don't know if you consider me a friend, but I do think of you as one. We just disagree on this particular topic.

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     @josemanuel @evan @phnt @sicp @silverpill @Zergling_man Ha, of course. I just don't mind if someone says whatever, and I don't think I have to agree on every point in order to be friends or have a common goal. I do think it is unnecessary to pull economics into this to disagree with the guy, you know? People get upset if you call them idiots, I'm pretty sure I'm an idiot but I'm also fairly certain that attempts to rein in fedi are evil.
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     @phnt @silverpill @p @sicp @evan >boomers trying to ban use of Github without an ID in Australia, because they thought it was a social media.
     accidentally based
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     @menherahair @silverpill @p @sicp @phnt @evan How is it that the only readable RFCs are all joke documents
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     @evan @silverpill >How can we support them?
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     @phnt @Zergling_man @evan @silverpill
     > Dude has the same reek that the Newsmast Foundation has.
     
     IT TURNS OUT:
     
     cosocial.ca was one of the instances behind the "Fediverse Governance" paper, https://github.com/fediverse-governance/fediverse-governance.github.io , co-authored by "Erin Kissane and Darius Kazemi with the support of the Digital Infrastructure Insights Fund ( August 20, 2024 )" (The Digital Infrastructure Insights Fund is responsible for funding browsers—which should be a capital offense based on the direction browsers have taken in the past 20 years—and describes Free Software as having achieved a "pyrrhic victory", https://infrastructureinsights.fund/projects/what-comes-after-foss/ .)
     
     Erin Kissane ( @kissane ) is an IFTAS advisor: https://about.iftas.org/advisory/ .
     
     Also an IFTAS advisor: Tim Chambers ( @tchambers ), who sold indieweb.social to the Newsmast Foundation, https://www.timothychambers.net/2025/03/27/the-next-stage-for-indiewebsocial.html .
     
     Dear The Entire Fediverse: I am never wrong. As I mentioned in https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/fse-vs-fbi.html :
     
     > I AM A GODDAMN GENIUS and EVERYONE THAT HAS EVER TOLD ME THAT I AM WRONG IS A RETARDED COPROPHILIAC.
     
     Thank you. That is all.
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     fugg bro! :chad_2:
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     @p @Zergling_man @evan @kissane @phnt @silverpill @tchambers
     
     >fediverse-governance.
     
     
     fuck that shit.
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     @MagicMoshe @Zergling_man @evan @kissane @phnt @silverpill @tchambers It also explains why he was not going to be interested in hearing why his funding routes were counterproductive.
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     @Zergling_man @evan @kissane @phnt @silverpill @tchambers Dear god. So the Newsmast thing, that came up because of some USAID jokes. Essentially, I'd posted some remarks pointing out the NAFO astroturfing had evaporated ahead of the USAID funding dry-up ( https://fsebugoutzone.org/objects/377a61ff-78e8-47e8-a2b0-0ed60ac406da ). Almost immediately after that post, where I pointed out that Newsmast, despite *claiming* not to scrape, was crawling FSE and using backend.newsmast.org and I suggested other people check their logs, right, because instead of doing their scraping competently by just passively harvesting data out of their Mastodong, they went scraping while claiming not to, and, as noted at the time, they are actively scraping some really creepy shit: https://media.freespeechextremist.com/rvl/full/89af774aade499a509023c56b32f483b77dfd029abbd553f50a7f8b9da063c89?name=Mapping-Fediverse-Communities-1.pdf .
     
     USAID looks like it hit IFTAS in early 2025. IFTAS was running a massive image classification system, ostensibly (if you believe this definitely benevolent and not shady organization) to "combat CSAM". https://about.iftas.org/2025/03/27/content-classification-system-post-mortem/ (I have just reposted that; their blog federates, they're using that Wordpress plugin.)
     
     > In total, of the 1.86 million media files sent to IFTAS for classification, 99.665% were hashed and matched.
     
     :threeletteragentglowsobright: 1.86m attachments sent upstream to these guys just from a handful of instances. :terrylol2:
     
     So that may actually have been a result of the USAID closure, given the timing. It goes on:
     
     > The bulk of the project ran for 26 weeks, and while we cannot afford to maintain the service any longer, the findings below can inform future projects.
     
     And https://fediversereport.com/fediverse-report-110/ :
     
     > The pilot was shut down after IFTAS did not manage to find the funding they were looking for, and the organisation had to shut down most of their projects this month.
     
     :plasticbottle: *ahem* :cvcvcv:
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     @p @Zergling_man @evan @kissane @silverpill @tchambers And if you follow the supposed founders link in the about page, you get a DoxedIn page that says he's involved in newmast.

     https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmking

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     @p @evan @tchambers @kissane @silverpill @Zergling_man Here's the funding begpost btw: https://about.iftas.org/2025/02/06/funding-challenges-and-the-future-of-our-work/

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     @p @evan @tchambers @kissane @silverpill @Zergling_man Getting more and more convinced I should care less and less about what the SWF cabal wants. Since SWICG's restart, literally nothing productive and important came out of it. Only bike shedding and bullshit like this.

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     @phnt @Zergling_man @evan @kissane @silverpill @tchambers
     
     > Only bike shedding and bullshit like this.
     
     They want you involved in the process of voting for shit that doesn't matter.
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     @phnt @silverpill @kissane @tchambers @p @evan So basically freedom-haters trying to turn fedi into a prison.
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     @Zergling_man @phnt @evan @kissane @silverpill @tchambers It turns out it's the same group of people.
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     @phnt @Zergling_man @evan @kissane @silverpill @tchambers You say it like they cared what people were asking for. They're going on and on about "sustainability" on fedi, like they've wandered into a forest that predated Caesar and declared that the trees are gonna fall over any minute now because they weren't planted sustainably.
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     @Zergling_man @evan @p @tchambers @kissane @silverpill The sleezy kind of freedom haters. They are too afraid of backlash that they play these dumb masquerading games to look like "the good guys trying to save this network". Their goal is to just turn this place into another corporate Twatter place nobody asked for.

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     @JVKO @silverpill @kissane @tchambers @p @phnt @evan @MagicMoshe Too fat to fly
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     @p @evan @tchambers @kissane @silverpill @Zergling_man I meant it in the literal sense. Turning the place into something nobody asked for/wants outside of their own bubble and disregarding anyone else in the process. Of course they never cared, especially after they started scraping FSE.

     At least after reading that blog post of his, I can feel vindicated calling the new Mastodon grant for blocklist sync/post scanning and IFTAS a Trojan horse for centralization, control and censorship. Because that's exactly what he wants after you remove all the fluff from the language.

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