Notices by Jimmy (patris@poa.st)
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@judgedread The covid circus was a real sad revelation in this regard. Suppose an entire generation had been able to shut death out of their minds their whole lives? And then the same propaganda machine that had allowed them to do this one day suddenly put it front and center? How would they react?
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@judgedread @BarelyEagle It's hard to "remember, man, that thou art dust" when one is under constant media assault. Uncle Ted was not a Christian, but maybe he understood the reason why.
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@judgedread I follow. But perhaps the counter is that what Elin has achieved is just re-acquiring the pre-enlightenment "moral man" norm. Sure it's the modern version with modern trappings, but the kernel is old, not new: a man subduing and filling the earth.
You don't love him because he is a man with rockets. You love him because he is a man. He just uses rockets instead of <words, iron, chariots, locomotives, genes, ships, swords, whatever>. Elon is a fully-blossomed man--a king, an image of the creating God, as every man should be.
If the enlightenment had delivered, kings would be more common now, not less.
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@WilhelmIII @judgedread The Dabney quote always applies. Conservatism is not really a thing. It's just one of a few possible reactions to the world available to people who have fully imbibed the enlightenment mind poison.
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@WoodshopHandman @Myles @doctorsex @sickburnbro Right-wingers have families to feed, and take that more seriously than progs, perhaps. Also they tend to be passionate about things that the current systems feeding capital into new ventures select against.
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@WoodshopHandman @Myles @doctorsex @sickburnbro Things that are highly regulated, so no access to the market on a small scale, or illegal entirely:
Guns
Cars/engines
Alternative building technology
Non-industrial food and beverage
Non fcc compliant communications tech
Cryptography
Things like that (each item in that list may our may not be guy I know)
But mostly it's time and money, not passion that's lacking, at least in my limited experience
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@James_Dixon @JohnYoungE @Escoffier @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Sulla_Felix @somemightsay The 1928 bcp has a lot going for it. The marriage service was starting to get cucked though. I guess it was published right as the Rollercoaster tipped over the top of the steep hill, but before it picked up any speed. The lectionary in the 28 is solid gold though. If you just read the scripture in the list for morning and evening prayer for the whole year, I guarantee that you will feel like a new man. And the coverdale psalms? Reciting them twice a day for a year will stave off the filth like an iodine pill in a fallout zone. I suspect singing them every day for very long might result in translation into heaven.
I swear if I could get everybody I see arguing about the church on the internet to sing the psalms in congregation, the world would change.
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@JohnYoungE @James_Dixon @Escoffier @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Sulla_Felix @somemightsay Yes!
Step 2 for us: making marriages within and between these groups, and figuring out a way to overcome/settle/eliminate the denominational differences. We have way more in common with each other than we do with the converged threads within our own traditions.
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@James_Dixon @JohnYoungE @Escoffier @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Sulla_Felix @somemightsay Now that I'm up on top of the soap box, let me do one more:
I frequently find myself arguing on the internet the cousin that faithful and fruitful old-type Christian congregations still exist in the US. Where the kingdom of God is preached and not the enlightenment. And the teenage boys are masculine, abs the v teenage girls are feminine, and the young women are nursing babies in the service and the fathers make the children behave and take care of the church business. Where people don't get divorced and worship is reverent and joyous.
And they exist in most, of not all , traditions: roman catholic, orthodox, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Anglican, at least. I'm not saying they are all equally correct about the right way to be Christian, I'm just saying they exist. And I have a hard time convincing people of this fact, because they are so rare that many have never seen one.
You know one thing all the ones I've seen have in common? Robust, vibrant congregational singing. Every single one. Because they are full of professional musicians? No. Because they value corporate worship, so they work at it. Without getting paid. (audible gasp)
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@James_Dixon @JohnYoungE @Escoffier @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Sulla_Felix @somemightsay Thinking "out of the deep have I called into thee oh Lord--Lord hear my voice" VS saying it privately VS singing it with a hundred other people....
This is what the judge dread guy means when he says that Christianity lost its memetic power.
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@James_Dixon @JohnYoungE @Escoffier @KingOfWhiteAmerica @Sulla_Felix @somemightsay I believe that the relegation of singing to professionals in the US was as big a blow to saving souls as anything else the devil pulled off in the twentieth century.
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@James_Dixon @bobbala @KingOfWhiteAmerica @transgrammaractivist @Snidely_Whiplash @d0c40r0 @doctorsex @matty @AnimeTradCath @BionicNigga @BowsacNoodle @Myles @PeterPower @Sulla_Felix @TrevorGoodchild @Will2Power @abner Explaining Christianity to modern evangelicals is like swimming through honey. But it's the Lord's work.
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@epictittus @judgedread This is not 100% true. Among the most serious Christians (which can be read "right-wing"), many/most either don't care about evolution (these are mostly humanities guys) or soft-reject evolution (these trend to be engineers, doctors, scientists) for technical reasons. These people exist. They are patriarchal and reality-embracing and increasingly race-aware. They are having white babies in huge numbers and building communities.
I know it's an unpopular take in these parts of the internet, but I personally have buckets of first hand evidence that using belief in evolution as a shill test is wrong. There are a bunch of very based white Christians who reject evolution in good faith, while not partaking of the blank-slate-related fantasies. I'm not saying that you are wrong--just that your experience in your post of the country is different from mine. People forget that Christianity is still regional and ethnic, even when moderns want to make it homogeneous.
You are right about the Schofield people. They are as thick as kudzu. Personally, I believe most of them mean well--they are just proles. The "Christians" with bad intent are mostly urban and college-educated. They are constantly undermining, wherever they are found. Some accept evolution, some don't. Their true faith is progressivism.
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@sickburnbro @Escoffier @Vulpes_Quartus @teknomunk Yeah, I know. I'm suggesting that if you want to be a doctor, you do a year sweeping up, emptying bedpans, handing people stuff, etc. Then if you still want in, and if you get good referrals, you start school.
Being a stoolie let's a young man make some cash while getting to the point where he can make an informed decision about what he wants to do. It gives you perspective. It also gives you a chance to wash out with dignity and without a lot invested. If you hate the field, or if the field hates you, you walk away and try something else. You can do this multiple times before you are 20. No harm, no foul. No debt.
From the perspective of the professional, getting to filter people early is extremely valuable. For a dozen reasons. Plus, you get somebody who has a good attitude sweeping up and handing you things. Can't buy that with h1b wages, but you can get it for very little pay if you hire 17 year old energetic young white men who are motivated by seeing the menial as the first rung of the ladder.
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@Escoffier @sickburnbro @Vulpes_Quartus @teknomunk Nailed it. Almost 100% of degrees people get in order to start a specific job are this. It's a cancer. Even in professions like welding, engineering, and medicine, everything would be better for everyone involved if degree followed schooling (run by industry people, not a university), which followed a year or two of paid apprenticeship. References needed to proceed to the next step.
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