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Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Aug-2024 02:40:52 JST Woodshop ?
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"People on my side won't be hurt by AI art because people on my side don't make art"

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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Aug-2024 02:40:52 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @WoodshopHandman What is owned by libtards isn't art, but all the commercial entities which parasite on art.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Aug-2024 02:51:12 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @WoodshopHandman RW people don't care about AI art not because RW people don't make art, but because all the companies that control entry into making a real living from art are controlled by progressives, and they intuitively understand it will hurt their enemies much worse than them.
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Aug-2024 02:51:13 JST Woodshop ?
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  @sickburnbro what
  
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  Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Aug-2024 02:55:58 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
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  There's definitely still an aspect of petty resentment or whatever
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Aug-2024 02:55:58 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman people like owen cyclops are an example that RW artwork exists and is supported.
  
  It's "conservatives" that don't support an art culture
  
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  Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Aug-2024 03:05:33 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
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  Strictly speaking yes, there are "right wing people who make art", but when people say "there aren't any right wing artists" it's hyperbolic. It's overwhelmingly cartoonists. What isn't cartoons is often so overtly ideological it gives the impression that a work is made first and foremost as propaganda rather than an organic creative work that may be colored by an artist's personal views.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Aug-2024 03:05:33 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman yes, it's overwhelmingly cartoons, but I feel like that's already moving the goal posts.
  
  If the point is "there isn't culture defining RW art" then yes you're 100% right. I don't think you can really get that level art without having a large real world culture to support it.
  
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  Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Aug-2024 03:06:31 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
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  Lots and lots of ebegging in the gay twitter art sphere. These are not people with monolothic financial backing, generally. These are people who would rather live in poverty doing something they enjoy than have a stable living. It's a risk-attraction that does not really naturally intersect with most RW ideology.
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Aug-2024 03:06:32 JST Woodshop ?
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  @sickburnbro The point being that rightoids won't into art if they can't make money off of it, then? Do you think that every libtard artist on twitter is getting funded by blackrock or something?
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Aug-2024 03:15:37 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman that's why I specifically mentioned owen. Some of his poster work takes multiple months, which is a lot of time, and most of that is religious rather than political.
  
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  Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Aug-2024 03:15:38 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
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  Of the cartoons, they're mostly political cartoons. That is to say, it's overwhelmingly political, inherently. It's propaganda. If you want to get into semantics, yes, propaganda is art. I think its value as such is somewhat cheapened when it becomes obvious that the propaganda aspect takes priority over anything else. Just my opinion.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Aug-2024 03:51:29 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @WoodshopHandman @doctorsex Most people are only going to do something where they feel like it has some value for them. The entire culture being extremely progressive very effectively suppresses right wing art for this reason alone.
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Aug-2024 03:51:30 JST Woodshop ?
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  @doctorsex @sickburnbro And that's just an issue with the right wing in general, not just with art. They don't do things unless they can make money off of it, then wonder why grifters take center stage. The right wing position is often "mechanical efficiency above all else", likely caused by deeply ingrained libertarian priors, which is a big part of why Elon gets worshipped so much.
  There's no passion involved because they don't see passion or visual appeal as important or necessary for "art", and so we return to AI slop with indians shitrocketing into the air.
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:11:33 JST Woodshop ?
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  @patris @Myles @doctorsex @sickburnbro So right wing guys don't have any real constructive hobbies that don't involve spending a lot of money (consuming) or can be done without extensive government/corporate support structures? Is that what you're saying here?
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:11:33 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @WoodshopHandman @patris @Myles @doctorsex No right wing guys do have creative hobbies, but when you have other things you need to balance, you can't just throw yourself into it to the detriment of everything else.
  
  That combined with the overall culture is enough to produce what you see.
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:11:34 JST Woodshop ?
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  @patris @Myles @doctorsex @sickburnbro >Right-wingers have families to feed, and take that more seriously than progs, perhaps.
  And that means they can't have creative hobbies or make art?
  >Also they tend to be passionate about things that the current systems feeding capital into new ventures select against.
  Like what
  
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  Jimmy (patris@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:11:34 JST Jimmy
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  @WoodshopHandman @Myles @doctorsex @sickburnbro Things that are highly regulated, so no access to the market on a small scale, or illegal entirely:
  Guns
  Cars/engines
  Alternative building technology
  Non-industrial food and beverage
  Non fcc compliant communications tech
  Cryptography
  
  Things like that (each item in that list may our may not be guy I know)
  
  But mostly it's time and money, not passion that's lacking, at least in my limited experience
  
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  Myles Poland (myles@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:11:35 JST Myles Poland
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  @WoodshopHandman @doctorsex @sickburnbro I think it's less than there is no passion, and more the fact that right wingers have a very strong regard for consequences. Vanishingly few right wingers are going to roll the dice on monetizing their hobby
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:11:35 JST Woodshop ?
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  @Myles @doctorsex @sickburnbro My personal experience on the matter is that right wingers just don't have creative hobbies in general. They have "side hustles" that they typically give up when they can't make as much money as they want.
  
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  Jimmy (patris@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:11:35 JST Jimmy
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  @WoodshopHandman @Myles @doctorsex @sickburnbro Right-wingers have families to feed, and take that more seriously than progs, perhaps. Also they tend to be passionate about things that the current systems feeding capital into new ventures select against.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:12:44 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @WoodshopHandman @patris @Myles @doctorsex but you can just look at youtube and look at guys that have channels that are "coded" and see how they behave, and see what they like.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:30:55 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @WoodshopHandman @doctorsex This is what you get in a highly politicized environment, these are just the rules.
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:30:56 JST mysterious rika
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  Literally this. RWers will see ANYTHING that does not explicitly condemn what they hate as liberal propaganda, and have 0 ability to analyze media with their own intellectual abilities, they just believe what leftist journos say, they literally function as NPCs without a brain
  
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  Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:30:57 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
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  I'm saying if you refuse to look at thing beyond a materialistic, utilitarian view, it's going to limit your potential. You lose the ability to analyze it beyond those metrics (what material gain does this grant me, and how immediately can it do so?). That's the right wing view on art. This is why they can still make propaganda but nothing else, because it must confer some immediate material (or perceived material) equivalent
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:30:57 JST Woodshop ?
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  @doctorsex @sickburnbro There's also a matter of needing everything to be political, so apolitical art by default HAS to be liberal. It's all "coded" a certain way. Anything that isn't owning ths libs/jews/niggers/trannies is a waste of time and it's for lefties.
  Like idk man sometimes a nigga just wants to paint a cat or something but the only people that will actually pay for that are libs.
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:30:58 JST Woodshop ?
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  @sickburnbro @doctorsex Yeah but the issue is that the left manages to see the non-monetary value in art, both in creating it and supporting it, and the right just *doesn't* for the reasons I described, ergo we return to "the right has surrendered art to the left".
  
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  Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:30:58 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
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  The right segregates it's faith from it's politics either too much or in the wrong ways. This cuts them off from a deeper spiritual reading of things, and thus the right's ideology hinges firmly on deep-seated materialist priors.
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:30:58 JST Woodshop ?
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  @doctorsex @sickburnbro Not even necessarily talking about spirituality, there are psychological and biological benefits to a more beautiful or aesthetically appealing environment that just get flat out ignored beause a)it's not efficient (it costs time/money/effort without immediately tangible/visible material returns) or b)the lefty libtards like it so that means it's le bad!
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:37:12 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman leftists on twitter spend millions of hours complaining about stonetoss. You are wrong about this
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:37:13 JST mysterious rika
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  True but it goes especially for RWers, because there are leftists who enjoy ambiguous if not outright right wing leaning media, or at least media done by self outed right wingers (movies by Gallo, Von Trier and Zahler come to mind). RWers cannot separate art from politics at all
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:44:24 JST mysterious rika
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  Stonetoss makes highly political short comic strips, there's not much room for interpretation there. I'm talking about more expanded and complex forms of media
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:44:24 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman His stuff is not "highly political" - at least half of it was social commentary that used to pass as acceptable in newspaper comics.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:45:51 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman the fact that people read this as "highly political" is simply because we are an extremely polarized country
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 22:49:36 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman BUT we are far onto a tangent.
  
  I think both of you are trying to ask a question that you don't know how to ask.
  
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  @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman you are reading things into it that aren't actually said or even directly implied, because of polarization.
  
  The entire implied portion is just "this guy was gay because he was molested" which even gays will admit.
  
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  Saying that gays are pedophiles &/or are gay because they were abused as children is an objectively political statement in a time were LGBT activism is mainstream.
  
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  Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:00:23 JST Jens_Rasmussen
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  >"Of course this right wing artistic work is political in the current leftist environment"
  So, of course "right wing art" is political or politicized?
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:00:23 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman the key is that you could take a picture of a husband, wife and happy children in 2024 and if you label it as "right wing" it will be considered "highly political"
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:10:31 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @doctorsex @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @WoodshopHandman 2nd to newest comic:
  
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  Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:10:32 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
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  Is that, generally speaking, what stonetoss does though?
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:14:55 JST mysterious rika
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  Depicting a happy family is not a political statement, is not even a statement per se. Saying that you can be gay because you were raped as a child is way more controversial, hence more political. Only deranged terminally online giga leftists would find the depiction of a happy family as "right wing", no average leftists who doesn't spend every waking minute on Twitter or reddit would find that "political"
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:14:55 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman "Depicting a happy family is not a political statement, "
  
  Depicting an all white family in 2024 is a political statement, I don't know if you are paying attention at this point.
  
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  Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:19:28 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
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  The implication is that lgbt is overwhelmingly a social phenomenon. I don't disagree with his consclusion, but I don't see how this undermines my point
  
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  @doctorsex @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @WoodshopHandman again, this is the point it is making *to you* but it can also just be "haha, women are silly"
  
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  Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:22:14 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
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  In a vacuum, a happy family can be depicted in a number of ways, for any number of reasons, with very little inherent overlap with politics.
  A White family being depicted is inherently going to be political because "Whiteness" is a relevant point of controversy in the current climate (that isn't a moral statement on my part- just an observation)
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:22:14 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @doctorsex @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @WoodshopHandman but you're missing the entire point.
  
  If you are a "right wing artist" and you take a picture of a white family you see when you are out that is happy - what does this MEAN?
  
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  Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:22:15 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
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  Depicting a happy family and depicting an all White family are strictly speaking not the same thing
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:23:09 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman this is completely incorrect and is just a handicap that you have been propagandized into, along with "all smart people are liberal"
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:23:10 JST mysterious rika
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  The point is that RWers seem way more limited than leftists in making art that is not explicitly politically or at least ambiguous/open to interpretation, to the point that some self defined RWers artists (I mentioned a couple of famous filmmakers some posts ago) are appreciated by leftists more than RWers, despite them still being highly controversial. Von Trier literally said "Hitler was right" at Cannes and 90% of his audience is still left wingers, only because he makes stuff that is a bit too complex to process for the RW brain that is only looking for couchy, soft to digest stuff which sole message is "le nigger bad"
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:35:29 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman I'm sorry, we must be thinking about a different Inside Out 2
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:35:30 JST mysterious rika
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  I think only terminally deranged online leftists would find a happy White family a political statement.
  
  Inside Out (both 1 & 2) depicts a happy White family and it's very popular among leftists
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:44:22 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman Yes, you can find people complaining about it, and people complained about "representation" in the first one as well.
  
  The problem is that you are being very loose with the groups you are deciding to be upset or not upset about.
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:44:23 JST mysterious rika
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  I don't recall any bad representation of that White family, nothing that can't be also found in the representation of non-White families (Turning Red and Across the Spiderverse show even more family conflict than Inside Out)
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:47:07 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman The key is a large amount of people who say they are "liberal" or "conservative" are just people who want to get by in their community. And so if you want to get upset about either set of them "not caring" about the "real X values" .. you can do that.
  
  Most people that have kids aren't so political that a non-offensive story that has a white girl as the main character and her family is part of the cast, that they're gonna get mad about it.
  
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman We need to step back at this point and decide what you mean by "leftists"
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:47:34 JST mysterious rika
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  Are you saying leftists complained about lack of representation in the first movie?
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:52:46 JST mysterious rika
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  In this specific case I mean people who care about racial, gender and LGBTQ representation and themes in media, which is usually leftists, although you can argue that nowadays right wingers care to but on the "opposite end". To make it simpler I'd say I mean people who care A LOT about media having a certain quota if not majority blacks/browns, women and alphabet mafia tokens
  
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman what do you mean by "care" though - does this mean someone who simply says "oh yes thats important" ?
  
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  Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:53:57 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
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  How is someone supposed to measure belief other than self-reporting/identifying
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:53:57 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @doctorsex @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @WoodshopHandman lots of ways.
  "do you volunteer for X"
  "do you donate to X"
  
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  @doctorsex @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @WoodshopHandman self report is an extremely poor way to gauge beliefs on a politically sensitive topic.
  
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  Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 29-Aug-2024 23:57:13 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
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  I think it would be safe to say if someone dedicates a significant amount of time and effort to discussing something they care about it
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:08:36 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman "conservatives first did vidya bad"
  
  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993%E2%80%9394_United_States_Senate_hearings_on_video_games
  
  please stop talking about things you don't fully understand.
  
  Just ask questions.
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    On December 9, 1993, and March 4, 1994, members of the combined United States Senate Committees on Governmental Affairs and the Judiciary held congressional hearings with several spokespersons for companies in the video game industry including Nintendo and Sega, involving violence in video games and the perceived impacts on children. The hearing was a result of concerns raised by members of the public on the 1993 releases of Night Trap, Mortal Kombat and later Doom which was released after the first hearing. Besides general concerns related to violence in video games, the situation had been inflamed by a moral panic over gun violence, as well as the state of the industry and an intense rivalry between Sega and Nintendo. The hearings, led by Senators Joe Lieberman and Herb Kohl, put the video game companies to task for the realistic depiction of violence in video games, and threatened that Congress would take action to regulate the industry if they did not take steps themselves. As a result, the American video game industry created the Interactive Digital Software Association (now known as the Entertainment Software Association) in July 1994 to serve as...
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:08:37 JST mysterious rika
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  Anime is hardly a western right wing political form of art, it only functions as a form of cope from the shit that the west has been making for many years.
  
  If you can't name anything else I might start doubting right wing art even exists
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:08:37 JST mysterious rika
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  I'd also argue that videogames are not inherently political, especially considering it was conservatives who first did the le Vidya bad bit in the late 90s/early 00s.
  
  It became a right wing issue after Gamer gate, but the media itself it's enjoyed by both political sides
  
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  Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:08:38 JST Jens_Rasmussen
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  >Exclude the most common forms in which you can find right wing art, please
  
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  Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:08:39 JST Jens_Rasmussen
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  >Hate to break it to you, but leftists despise him
  Irrelevant to the topic at hand. He does not produce right wing art.
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:08:39 JST mysterious rika
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  Define "right wing art". Give me at least 5 examples excluding vidya, anime and LOTR.
  
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  Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:08:40 JST Jens_Rasmussen
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  Trier is a pervert and a freak, he'd fit right in at a Pride parade.
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:08:40 JST mysterious rika
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  Hate to break it to you, but leftists despise him.
  
  I can also make a less extreme example, "Ambulance" by Bay. The whole thing has very early 2000s action-macho man vibes and is essentially a celebration of masculine braveness and friendship.
  Leftists got crazy (in a positive way) on it because it features experimental camera work and is objectively a fun movie, RWers ignored it completely because one of the two main characters is black (the movie has 0 racial discourse whatsoever).
  
  The only example I can think of of RWers not being completely blind and enjoying something that is not a podcast is probably the latest Top Gun entry.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:19:00 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @WoodshopHandman @doctorsex @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu we don't actually know the artist's intent unless he writes it down, all the rest are assumptions.
  
  This is why I was talking about photos, because there is less individually defining components in the compostion.
  
  If you took a photo that Adolph took of a woman, and took a photo that say Andy Wharhol took, people would say all kinds of shit about each.
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:19:01 JST Woodshop ?
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  @sickburnbro @doctorsex @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu "You can completely ignore the artist's intent and see this other message instead" whaow
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:20:40 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman I can name lots, but you don't care, because you are looking for grist for your mill.
  
  Figure out the question you are asking.
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:20:41 JST mysterious rika
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  Can you name some titles of media (excluding anime and vidyas) who have been, in recent years, positively discussed in the right wing sphere for their themes and state of art?
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:26:39 JST mysterious rika
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  >I can name it
  >I won't do it because you don't care
  
  ?
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:26:39 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman Ok, lets play this game. Have you hear of MPC?
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:29:04 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman mypostingcareer
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:29:05 JST mysterious rika
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  What does the acronym stand for? If it's not an acronym I'm not familiar with it
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:31:55 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman it was a forum, and talking about media was a fairly major topic there. "Favorite Criterion Collection movie" was a thing
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:32:33 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman For another example, you can look at The Poz Button podcast
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:34:29 JST mysterious rika
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  I know Criterion, but I'm not aware of the discussion surrounding this forum. What's the point here?
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:34:29 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman the point is you not knowing of places where it is discussed is perhaps more your issue, and knowing the question to ask helps everyone
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:36:33 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman the more crucial thing is that when you've already discussed a large back catalog, if you aren't being paid to rehash things, you've said what you've got to say and except for people trolling its pretty done
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:37:39 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @doctorsex @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @WoodshopHandman because if you don't ask the right question you'll keep asking the wrong one and muddying your own water
  
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  Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:37:40 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
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  Why do people need to ask the right questions? Is it impossible to just say what you're getting at?
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:41:35 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman But pozbutton.libsyn.com/ has like 5 years of recordings on mostly film.
  
  In general it is about finding right wing themes in most of what it talks about.
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:42:52 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman But as to films that people might like talking about
  - Taxi Driver ( done to death )
  - Hardcore ( done to death )
  - Blade Runner ( done to death )
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:43:21 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @SaltWraith @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman you can tell its bad when I have to cite this as an example.
  
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  SaltWraith (saltwraith@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 00:43:22 JST SaltWraith
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  @sickburnbro @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman the downside : having to hear Borzoi's gay huffing and bad audio
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:15:48 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @WoodshopHandman @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WandererUber I mean this seems more of your actual concern. Why does that bother you?
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:15:49 JST Woodshop ?
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  @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WandererUber @sickburnbro Yeah it's my thread nigga
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:15:49 JST Woodshop ?
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  @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WandererUber @sickburnbro The thread is literally about rightoids surrenduring art (even apolitical art) entirely to their opponents
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:15:50 JST Woodshop ?
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  @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WandererUber @sickburnbro you act intentionally obtuse every time you get into one of these threads when everyone you're arguing (?) against is being very clear and blunt about what they mean. try talking like a normal person for once holy shit
  
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  Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:15:50 JST Jens_Rasmussen
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  You are the one who suddenly brought up rightoids, which you have then described as republicans who are allergic to woke media, which no one else talked about.
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:15:51 JST Woodshop ?
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  @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WandererUber @sickburnbro are you being retarded on purpose
  
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  Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:15:51 JST Jens_Rasmussen
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  Are you?
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:15:52 JST Woodshop ?
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  @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WandererUber @sickburnbro Niggas that obnoxiously have to see everything through a red vs blue political lens (they're on the red team) to the point where they can't enjoy or hate a thing for non-politically-motivated reasons. The type of niggas that will argue all day about whether Kaczynski was a liberal or a conservative. The guys that second guess their own enjoyment of things because they aren't sure if they're "allowed" to like something if it's not right-coded.
  
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  Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:15:52 JST Jens_Rasmussen
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  I don't think anyone here is a dedicated republican supporter, don't worry.
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:15:53 JST Woodshop ?
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  @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WandererUber @sickburnbro I don't consider myself a rightoid and I value art other than political slop
  
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  Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:15:53 JST Jens_Rasmussen
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  Define "rightoid".
  
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  Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:15:54 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
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  @WandererUber @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @sickburnbro nigga if all of "right wing art" is video games, anime, and lord of the rings, we might as well just fucking kill ourselves now because this shit is going nowhere
  
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  Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:15:54 JST Jens_Rasmussen
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  Go ahead then, kill yourself if you think it's hopeless.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:16:19 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @WoodshopHandman @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WandererUber The right surrendered ****everything**** just to be left alone.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:17:30 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @WandererUber @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman I mentioned several items that have been mentioned positively. Were they not good enough?
  
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  Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:17:31 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman @sickburnbro >It can't be highly political
  >It can't be apolitical
  >It needs to be western
  >It needs to be positively discussed in the right wing sphere in recent years
  nigger...
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:17:31 JST mysterious rika
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  Dude the only western example that was made is stonetoss
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:19:39 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @WandererUber @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman to beat it in your head, I have scrolled down a feed and this was in the top 20:
  
  This meets your criteria. So what is your point
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  @WoodshopHandman @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WandererUber you are asserting this with no proof, though.
  
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  Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:21:28 JST Jens_Rasmussen
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  Any major art piece will have financial backing or aim to turn a profit. When it comes to minor individual passion pieces there are plenty of artists just drawing pretty women and landscapes that would all be considered "right wing".
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:21:28 JST Woodshop ?
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  @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WandererUber @sickburnbro >When it comes to minor individual passion pieces there are plenty of artists just drawing pretty women and landscapes that would all be considered "right wing".
  okay what's "right wing" about it? Are right-wingers buying it? Are they the ones making it?
  Understand that's I'm talking about the full scope of right-wingers here, from libertarians to republicans to internet nazis. The overwhelming majority of them simply do not participate in art, especially when compared to those on the left/liberal side of the political spectrum. That's the entire point of this thread.
  
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  Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:21:29 JST Jens_Rasmussen
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  But that's not true, there are things that these opponents do hate. It just so happens that these things are mostly in the form of anime and video games.
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:21:29 JST Woodshop ?
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  @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WandererUber @sickburnbro oh, okay so "right-wing art" means consumer products made by large companies and corporations instead of things made out of passion or artistic interest by actual individual people. yeah that doesn't prove the point at all, does it you fucking retard
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:22:13 JST Bread up, Bro
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:22:14 JST mysterious rika
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  I just re-scrolled all the thread and I can only see you mentioning the podcast. Where did you mention the other stuff?
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:24:49 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @WoodshopHandman @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WandererUber remember that "participating in art" is by definition going to be mediated to you through a non-neutral 3rd party.
  
  You must *explicitly* go out of your way to find something like a Passage Prize which tries to showcase non-liberal art.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:26:22 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @WoodshopHandman @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WandererUber @KarlDahl as an example writes fiction.
  
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  The Forbidden Dreamer (forbiddendreamer@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:30:24 JST The Forbidden Dreamer
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  @RikaDerufu @WandererUber @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman @sickburnbro Erm miss, we have wormwood at home. Awfully rude to ignore him as I like his art better anyways.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:30:24 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @ForbiddenDreamer @RikaDerufu @WandererUber @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman wormwood is more obviously political than stonetoss, who intentionally leaves more to the reader
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:31:03 JST Woodshop ?
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  @sickburnbro @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WandererUber Because I'm an unwilling misanthropist and having more people with beliefs I agree with being able to appreciate art instead of brutalist AI technoslop would make me a little less hating towards my fellow man?
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:31:03 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @WoodshopHandman @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WandererUber if you're an misanthropist shouldn't you love AI?
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:34:32 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WandererUber @WoodshopHandman ok, but passage prize exists. It is visual art and written works. it has run for the last 3 years.
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:34:33 JST mysterious rika
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  Completely missed this for some reason.
  
  Your point is correct but it also proves what I have been saying for a while now: the problem with media and RWers is recent (started 10/15 years ago). The only "good" media RWers point at is old, and seemingly nothing good that is also new can be produced (for RWers). I literally made a post earlier in this thread where I say RWers are nihilists who cope with old media and anime and can't produce anything new, because they think everything is under the control of leftists (partially true but not to the extent they think of)
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:37:35 JST Woodshop ?
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  @sickburnbro @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex >the point is you not knowing of places where it is discussed is perhaps more your issue
  Do u think that these things only being discussed in extremely niche recesses of the internet is not somehow either a cause or symptom of the problem?
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:37:35 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @WoodshopHandman @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex well, we haven't really identified exactly what problem you guys are talking about *is* yet.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:38:39 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @WoodshopHandman @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex You claim "only leftists like art"
  I provide some counter examples
  "well, it's only in small places"
  ok, but the reason you see the leftist stuff is because the system serves it up to you.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:40:13 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @WoodshopHandman @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WandererUber "humanity can't live up to my standards" is an old thing.
  
  They can live up to your standards if you have enough cunning and will.
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:40:14 JST Woodshop ?
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  @sickburnbro @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WandererUber I'm a misanthropist because I care about humanity and want people to be better and they just aren't. AI just makes their shitty behavior even worse.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:41:48 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman right, and I've made this point several times here. So as I've mentioned, they need to be able to clearly express what they are upset about in order to be able to get anywhere
  
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  Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:41:49 JST Jens_Rasmussen
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  Art journalism is overwhelmingly left wing because all publications and organizations that hire these people are left wing or simply follow the trend that is set for them.
  
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  Jens_Rasmussen (jens_rasmussen@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:41:49 JST Jens_Rasmussen
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  Only real solution is for the same power structures that currently fund leftist art circles to instead fund rightist art circles. As usual, the solution requires taking over the government.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:50:42 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @WandererUber @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman As to film, film is expensive to produce and quite time consuming.
  
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  Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:50:43 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman @sickburnbro You lost me. Is this ambiguity an indication of quality?
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:50:43 JST mysterious rika
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  I am saying that RWers cannot point out an equivalent of Get Out for "right wing" art, at least if we are talking about recent stuff, which is what the initial point of the thread was.
  
  Get Out managed to generate discussion on its themes and meanings even though it's (on the surface) explicitly leftists. The only non anime or old stuff that has been mentioned here is stonetoss, which is not comparable at all with the complexity of a movie, or a book.
  
  As I said earlier, the problem with RWers and media is recent. The ones making media that generates discussions is leftists now, not RWers, because RWers have gotten too nichilist and cope with old media and products that are not even from their culture (anime).
  
  The leftists have way more creativity to the point that they end up making stuff that can be read as literally the opposite of what you would expect (I saw the tv glow is a movie directed by a tranny which message seems to be, not even subtly, that transitioning is the result of depression, alienation and manipulation). It's fucking jarring seeing trannies saying through art what RWers yap through podcasts all the time
  
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  Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:50:44 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman @sickburnbro ok and a movie about whitey stealing a niggers body because racism is not as "highly political" as stonetoss?
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:50:44 JST mysterious rika
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  What the fuck are you saying? Where did I say it's not highly political? I literally wrote it's explicitly leftists, can you read nigger?
  
  Get Out cannot be compared to Stonetoss strips because it has a more ambiguity, while still being highly political. Some critics interpret it as a criticisms of modern day White liberals more than White racists.
  
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  Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:50:45 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman @sickburnbro I'm trying to hammer into your head that your definition doesn't make any fucking sense and you're still asking for examples that fit it
  
  You're excluding highly political stuff and when someone says "this is right-wing because it has normal non-leftist value systems" you want to exclude it as well. Name an example from the left wing that fits your own criteria
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 01:50:45 JST mysterious rika
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  What "definition", exactly?
  
  An example of explicitly left wing piece of media can be Get Out, although it leaves room to criticize a certain type of leftists liberal.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 02:06:00 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @Shadowbroker2135 @WoodshopHandman NCD has a drawing contest. You can easily put together a flash fiction contest of 50-100 words.
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 02:06:01 JST Woodshop ?
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  @Shadowbroker2135 >no
  You have hands, don't you, nigga? Nothing good comes easy. Learn to draw.
  
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  Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb: (shadowbroker2135@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 02:06:01 JST Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb:
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  @WoodshopHandman It's not my passion. I'd rather put that time into being a better writer. Or honestly writing at all since I haven't made a serious crack at it in ten years.
  
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  Woodshop ? (woodshophandman@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 02:06:02 JST Woodshop ?
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  @Shadowbroker2135 You can, but it's hard and AI is easy so that's what you do. Miserable. Complete opposite of chivalry and bushido.
  
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  Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb: (shadowbroker2135@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 02:06:02 JST Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb:
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  @WoodshopHandman >You can,
  no
  >but it's hard and AI is easy so that's what you do.
  yes.
  
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  Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb: (shadowbroker2135@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 02:06:03 JST Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb:
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  @WoodshopHandman I like AI art because I can't fucking draw.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 02:55:13 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @WandererUber @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman we again have not gotten a good definition of what your problems are.
  
  Right now you seem to be saying "There aren't any right wing films"
  
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  Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 02:55:14 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman @sickburnbro >Ironic you point this out
  not really. The culture shifting and the right-wing edge moving leftward in art is my entire point.
  
  >I also don't get why you are mentioning Fight Club and Erin Brokhovic
  because you would have cried about these were you talking 20 years ago. Again, because of leftward drift in *mainstream* art.
  
  >the problem RWers complain about is far more recent
  What problem is that?
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 02:55:14 JST mysterious rika
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  I've never seen Erin Brokhovic so I can't speak for that, but I don't get your point with Fight Club.
  It's ambiguous enough that is loved by both left and right wingers, who can arbitrarily decide if the movie make their point or not.
  
  From all the old examples you could make I would point out Apocalypto as a more explicitly right wing piece
  
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  Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 02:55:15 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman @sickburnbro what the fuck am I supposed to say to that? Literally everyone has been making movies giving all our talking points since for fucking ever. Even marvel made black panther say refugees are bad. How is this still jarring to you. Would you prefer a right winger made a "boohoo poor trannies" movie you tard? It's still a leftist movie.
  
  >This is literally what RWers say, they point out examples of "right wing" art by citing movies of 20 years ago
  ok and as of your last post you agreed with them. The point was that right wing art has been on the outs since forever. At the time you'd have criticized those movies and said "Fight Club isn't right wing, why can't we make movies like Ellen Brokovich or whatever gay shit the left is doing now"
  My point is this asymmetry is not, as you claim, 15 years old, you just pulled this out of your ass. It has been getting worse since hollywood put the kibosh on anything not DEI, true, but the phenomenon is not new. Even Tolkien complained about it.
  
  I'd even go as far as to claim the opposite and say it's actually getting BETTER, because first of all niche art forms like AI art and video games have lowered the barrier to entry such that dedicated right-wingers now have an "in" into art more than they used to.
  Secondly, there's way more people understanding the necessity for it and more importantly understanding that you cannot negotiate with "The System" and expect to eek out an existence within it, so you have to make dissident art, need dissident spaces to promote it and so forth. You're not gonna get your movie playing at the Chinese Theatre and people know this by now.
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 02:55:15 JST mysterious rika
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  >would you prefer a right winger making a "boohoo poor trannies"
  
  Ironic you point this out because some months ago I was in a thread with poasters who were making a "boohoo poor trannies they are just poor guys manipulated by evil therapist women" so at this point I'm kind of expecting a right wing take on it.
  
  I also don't get why you are mentioning Fight Club and Erin Brokhovic out of nowhere, never mentioned those two movies.
  
  And for the last part, making fun of women/gay/trannies was totally ok until not that far ago, the problem RWers complain about is far more recent. Not even mentioning that some directors still get a pass for "racist" stuff and barely get called out for it (PTA putting a single black actor in his last movie and the character is a rapist)
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 02:55:16 JST mysterious rika
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  >you look back at media from 20 years ago and say it's RW
  
  This is literally what RWers say, they point out examples of "right wing" art by citing movies of 20 years ago
  
  >completely ignores the part where I say it's literal troons making art that says trooning out is bad
  
  No point to keep this thread going
  
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  Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 02:55:17 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman @sickburnbro >RWers cannot point out an equivalent of Get Out for "right wing" art
  And somehow you jump to "leftists have way more creativity"?
  >Get Out managed to generate discussion on its themes and meanings even though it's (on the surface) explicitly leftists
  not "even though", EXPLICITLY BECAUSE.
  This is 99% of the reason it got made in the first place how do you not factor this in? Also it's not "on the surface" just because some jew critic says it criticizes a different set of white people. Braindead take.
  
  >the problem with RWers and media is recent
  This is just because you look back on stuff from 20 years ago and think it is RW.
  Right-wing, as in pushing the envelope right-wing, mass art has been virtually impossible since the French Revolution.
  >because RWers have gotten too nichilist and cope with old media and products that are not even from their culture
  headcanon
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:01:25 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @leespringfield1903 @RikaDerufu @WandererUber @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman by a certain standard you could consider Inside Out 2 or numerous pixar movies to be right wing.
  
  It seems like being unable to define "right wing" and stick with it is a problem.
  
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  leespringfield1903 (leespringfield1903@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:01:27 JST leespringfield1903
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  @sickburnbro @RikaDerufu @WandererUber @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman Deadpool and Wolverine can be considered right wing.
  
  It shows the power of broship against bald lesbian femoids that listen to Enya.
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:02:14 JST mysterious rika
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  >left wingers don't like FC because "muh toxic masculinity"
  
  Bro, leftists literally write essays about how it's a deconstruction of masculinity and literally love that movie. Are you for real?
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:02:14 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @WandererUber @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman writing an essay isn't proof that someone "loves" a movie, though.
  
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  Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:02:16 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman @sickburnbro The point, for the millionth time, is that Fight Club was NOT a right-wing movie in it's time, because the right-wing has NEVER been able to make envelope-pushing mass media like the left did. But it is NOW because the left considers it toxic masculinity.
  
  Erin Brokhovic I just picked at random because it's some gay shit the left made to empower women or whatever, while muddying the waters of reality. You don't need to watch the movie to understand this.
  
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  Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq. (doctorsex@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:04:58 JST Dr. Sex, Ph.d, Esq.
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  If a critical analysis is being made of a film with the goal of reifying the analysts pre-conceived notions, I think it's safe to say they have a positive outlook at the very least
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:04:58 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @doctorsex @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @WandererUber @WoodshopHandman it only proves that they seek to own it culturally.
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:07:40 JST mysterious rika
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  My point is that there are examples of right wing movies/media, the problem is that RWers don't care or only a minimum part care, and those same movies end up being discussed more in leftists circles.
  They don't care because they think every piece of media made in the west is leftist propaganda (true for some things, but not for everything).
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:07:40 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WandererUber @WoodshopHandman It sounds like you just haven't found RW people that talk about media and are upset about it because it is easy to find leftists that do it.
  
  Yes, my dog, you are in a dissident sphere, it is going to be hard to find things.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:09:08 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WandererUber @WoodshopHandman Any kind of current day RW analysis on media is going to include boat loads of thoughtcrime, and that gets people kicked off of services.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:17:23 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @RikaDerufu @WandererUber @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman and what does an existence of an academic essay say to you?
  
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  mysterious rika (rikaderufu@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:17:24 JST mysterious rika
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  >cinephile YouTube
  
  You can find academic essays from like 15 years ago that say FC is a masculinity deconstruction but ok, I still don't get your point
  
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  Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:17:25 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
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  @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman @sickburnbro You'd know about that I guess
  I had the sense that you watch a lot of left retarded cinephile youtube or something like this for a while now.
  That shit is gay and retarded as fuck and you lack any propaganda awareness.
  Very obviously dirtbag left style types trying to deradicalize and signal "we're cool too!" instead of the mainstream left producing movies in hollywood these days. It couldn't get made now, despite what these idiots are saying.
  
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  LovecraftEnthusiast :shyduck: (lovecraftenthusiast@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:20:05 JST LovecraftEnthusiast :shyduck:
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  The more common take I see from leftists is that its a failed critique of capitalism that came up short by getting lost in consumerism complaints
  
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  @doctorsex @WandererUber @lonestarr @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @Dan_Hulson @EdBoatConnoisseur @WoodshopHandman @leespringfield1903 I think Solar Power might be due to me, and all I can do is beard_guy_nod.mp4
  
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  Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:21:28 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
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  @leespringfield1903 @EdBoatConnoisseur @sickburnbro @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman @Dan_Hulson @lonestarr noted
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  >racemixing
  I assumed most people on here were into that
  
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  @EdBoatConnoisseur @WandererUber @sickburnbro @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman @Dan_Hulson @lonestarr He does get pegged, which pegs him down a notch in a masculine way.
  
  But he has also talks about making his real life wife pregnant as well in the movie.
  
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  @WandererUber @leespringfield1903 @sickburnbro @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman Pegging is certified straight sex, iirc that is what @Dan_Hulson said last time he was asked.
  
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  @WandererUber @leespringfield1903 @sickburnbro @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman @Dan_Hulson Uh @lonestarr do ya remember who else was on the last thread pegging was mentioned besides dan?
  
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  @leespringfield1903 @sickburnbro @RikaDerufu @WandererUber @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman Mind you that deadpool is a tall and blonde protagonist, also his every human variant is blonde.
  
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  Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:21:31 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
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  @EdBoatConnoisseur @leespringfield1903 @sickburnbro @RikaDerufu @Jens_Rasmussen @doctorsex @WoodshopHandman he takes it up the ass. literally.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:23:26 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @WandererUber @doctorsex @lonestarr @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @Dan_Hulson @EdBoatConnoisseur @leespringfield1903 the only light I'm going to see is from the small mobile nuclear reactor sitting in my basement, assuming it has an observation window
  
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  Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:23:27 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
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  @sickburnbro @doctorsex @lonestarr @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @Dan_Hulson @EdBoatConnoisseur @leespringfield1903 one day you will all see the light brother
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:34:09 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @EdBoatConnoisseur @doctorsex @WandererUber @lonestarr @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @Dan_Hulson @WoodshopHandman @leespringfield1903 note that heat is the enemy of good solar conversion.
  
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  EdBoatConnoisseur (edboatconnoisseur@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:34:10 JST EdBoatConnoisseur
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  @sickburnbro @doctorsex @WandererUber @lonestarr @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @Dan_Hulson @WoodshopHandman @leespringfield1903 I've been seriously thinking of covering the sides and roof of mh house with solar panels, during summer the walls get fuck hot and those are made from cinder block...
  
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  Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:38:40 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
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  @sickburnbro @EdBoatConnoisseur @doctorsex @lonestarr @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @Dan_Hulson @WoodshopHandman @leespringfield1903 help! I can't stop arguing!
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:38:40 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @WandererUber @EdBoatConnoisseur @doctorsex @lonestarr @Jens_Rasmussen @RikaDerufu @Dan_Hulson @WoodshopHandman @leespringfield1903 what do you think this graphic is showing?
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:44:15 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @WandererUber @EdBoatConnoisseur @Jens_Rasmussen I mean it looks like it is saying "the cooler you keep the tested module, the better it performs"
  
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  Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 03:44:16 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
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  @sickburnbro @EdBoatConnoisseur @Jens_Rasmussen you can use it to estimate the power loss in heat conditions.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 04:04:29 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @WandererUber @EdBoatConnoisseur @Jens_Rasmussen it's also more than that, depending on the output voltage you are targeting, the heat will reduce your efficiency a lot.
  
  The point is that a place being hot doesn't mean it is a good candidate for solar. If your neighbor is venting their whole house A/C nearby, for instance.
  
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  Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer (wandereruber@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 04:04:30 JST Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer
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  @sickburnbro @EdBoatConnoisseur @Jens_Rasmussen yes it does. Don't know many people that have 70° C (158F) on their roof tho.
  I think it shows that it's still worth it and not as dramatic as it sounds
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 04:29:27 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @tyler @WandererUber @Jens_Rasmussen @EdBoatConnoisseur I would think misting would do the best?
  
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  Tyler (tyler@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 30-Aug-2024 04:29:28 JST Tyler
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  For my system in the peak of summer, I can get a 10-15% performance gain by putting the sprinkler to hit the array (I needed to water the apple trees anyway)
  
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