@dictatordave@sickburnbro@ThatCrazyDude@Humpleupagus This happened during Katrina in New Orleans. Cops showed up for the first day or two and then fucked off back home when they realized it was personally dangerous to them and they had no support. People were left entirely on their own.
There is no reason we will not create genuine intelligence someday. Or something that approximates closely enough whether it's self aware or not. After that it seems to be just a matter of scaling that intelligence. There is no fundamental bound on intelligence that we know of.
@JoshuaSlocum@WilhelmIII I seriously wonder if this will be done by an AI that we create someday. It will figure physics so advanced we barely understand it, if we ever do. Like explaining quantum gravity at a five year old's level, only we will always be five years old.
We might still be able to use it and travel to the stars. But we would never truly understand the technology.
@Shlomo@dickflatteningenthusiast One thing I see in technical fields is a field will have a high bar of entry because it takes real ability to develop new techniques and tools. Then it becomes hot, people flood in and a lot of the techniques and tools become commodified, reducing the barrier of entry to a git clone command or an app download.
This is fine. To complain is like complaining that all it takes to use a computer or a car these days is pushing the ON button. You once had to actually build your own computers and cars.
But the spark that you enjoyed working in the original field is gone.
It's a cycle, and it's good to recognize as a young person rather than getting hung up on, Who moved my cheese? Still makes you miss the old days.
@Bonsai@sickburnbro This is it exactly. It's easy to pacify people. Even the minimal ability to live that welfare provides is enough to keep people from rebelling.
I'm a tail end boomer that watched every ladder get pulled up through the X'ers span. Got balled up in that myself working in tech and having jobs moved overseas or displaced by migrants moving here. I have every sympathy with the generations after me that have seen stolen opportunity after stolen opportunity taken from them.
Pensions are what is keeping boomers and soon to be X'ers pacified as well. You won't risk anything if the result is literal homelessness. Not when you have a home now. But even boomers are ending up on the streets and in shelters because they worked a less than optimal career, on the margins. And now they slip over the edge with no real savings. Something that virtually never happened even 20 years ago.
@sickburnbro@PopulistRight@transgrammaractivist I remember that the ones that got through were the advanced ones with larger warheads. The scores or so that were shot down were almost all expendable diversion. Proving the system would be easily overwhelmed in a large strike and Israel is basically defenceless.
@sickburnbro I've worked in established tech companies that were started by engineers and management for the most part were engineering training and worked their way into their roles over years by proving their competence. One company required you work for 7 years for vetting before being put through an 18 month intensive internal program that taught you the inner workings of the company.
Very old fashioned approach today but it worked.
And I've seen it all wrecked twice now when the company matures and people with no technical expertise start getting these roles. And you get blow ups just like this happening because they have real idea how any of it all works.
@sickburnbro@yockeypuck@Hertz Lots of pain to go through between now and then, here and there. Same as always. But necessary if we're going to get there.
@sickburnbro@dictatordave@s2208@EvilSandmich@Highroehler And it's generally just a small portion of the population that's engaged in all of that. The majority just disengage from participation and will just sit things out until they see who is getting the upper hand in time. Or leave. We had an influx of Loyalists from the American Colonies during the Revolution.
But that disengagement creates its own set of problems for those governing. The loss of White men in the military, technology and industry is hugely restricting options for the American government now.
@sickburnbro@boeswilligkeit I've known people who lived through the fall of communism in Russia and Eastern Europe in the late 80s/early 90s. At the end everyone knew the system was rotten and sclerotic. Ruled over by an increasing gerontocracy. We are seeing the same thing with our competency crisis and crisis in leadership, which was also corrupt, but they could rule effectively and had the backing of the people.
But people still had to live their lives. Go to school, get married, raise their family. They had to work in the system because that is all there was at the time.
And everyone I know who lived through that is alarmed at what they see here in the West, because we are repeating the same mistakes. A Russian friend couldn't get over the Canadian government's response to the popular truckers protest during covid ... *"You learned from us! But you learned all the wrong things!!"* Even Chinese friends see the similarities between our cultural Marxism and their cultural revolution.
You still have to live your life. But you can still be aware. You have to be a sailor watching the storm clouds on the horizon, judging the direction and precautions to take. It's never been any different.
@CaptainFuggetaboutit@sickburnbro I understand what you're saying. I've done the same. Weighing the costs and benefits can depend on personal circumstances.
@sickburnbro In Canada we've had almost 100 churches burned down, beautiful old buildings. All after Trudeau started pushing the bullshit native children's graves at our residential schools.
Nothing done about it. But imagine like you said if these were synagogues.
@sickburnbro@lovelymiss@BrokenSword Anonymous Conservative discusses this. We are in an experiment, where the social pressure is built up until things explode, reset and then start over with a new group of people moulded by the crucible they just passed through.
@VaxxSabbath@sickburnbro Younger people were keen on reddit 10-15 years ago I remember. They could just be aging out, have other responsibilities like their job, kids, keeping their house, they just don't bother with it as a community much any longer. And kids are on tiktok now I understand.
We have millions of pajeets here in Canada that would probably go for a piece of paper saying they are "Canadian". Mexicanoids in the US would do the same. Some of them. Maybe.