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@transgrammaractivist what exact war is he running on? I haven't seen anything but offhand statements of the same exact format that Trump said about Iran, and he didn't get us into a war with them either.
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@PopulistRight @transgrammaractivist yes, hiring Bolton is certainly the best piece of evidence that he "is for war" but all of the rest shows more of a neutral attitude on it, and as we know the military has already said they didn't listen to him anyway, which is a problem in itself.
The idea that we aren't at war with Iran because of Blinken is far fetched. The primary reason there isn't a war with Iran is that Israel is still dicking around in Palestine. They've also explicitly said they want to wrap up there ( for whatever definition they have ) so they can fight Hezbollah.
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@sickburnbro @transgrammaractivist Trump hired arch-neocon Bolton, continued all the wars (Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Ukraine (vs Donbass militias / did not push Minsk), and tried to start a war with Iran (or blunder into it) via the Solamani hit, but they didn't take the bait.
His actions also continued the Killery/Nuland path to war with Russia in Ukraine. He just didn't happen to be in that chair when the consequences of his & their actions resulted in the Russian response in the Donbass.
The only reason we aren't at war with Iran right now, is Blinken / J-Street Jews are holding Bibi back, vs the Chabad nutters' Rs.
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@EssentialUtinsil @sickburnbro @transgrammaractivist Yes, Blinken doesn't want war with Iran now, but not because they care about their anti-war base (which has no power in the DNC), but because he thinks they need to fight Russia first.
This is because of his ethnic-roots in Eastern-Europe / Khazaria (even Col MacGregor has said this part out-loud), and because of the massive natural-resource and manufacturing capability of Russia. That said, they are now realizing they can't pull it off.
The Russian resources + manufacturing is greatly magnified when coupled with China, now happening, because State Dept IDIOTS abandoned the Kissinger doctrine. Imagine if the CCP started cranking out attack-drones. The "attack China first" people aim to go for that.
The R-Neocons think we need to fight Iran first - which is the dumbest position, tactically - assuming one supported American World-Hegemony / Empire (I don't). Regardless, they are chomping at the bit.
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@PopulistRight @EssentialUtinsil @transgrammaractivist they also want to weaken russia because russia supplies iran
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@sickburnbro @transgrammaractivist they do the bidding of israel, and israel wants a war with hezbollah (which could very well expand to iran) that they know they can't win without direct US involvement. my personal opinion is the biden admin was too conflicted trying to do what israel wants while trying to save face with their pro-palestine voters, who they let get way too out of control, and so the decision was made that trump will be put back in because he's much more amenable. I think trump will tie off the ukraine thing, israel will invade lebanon, etc and trump will send us forces to help when it becomes necessary. just my speculation.
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@PopulistRight @EssentialUtinsil @transgrammaractivist it's more than just that, they would also activate hezbollah to attack israel. We've seen with what they did after the embassy bombing that they can saturate their defenses.
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@EssentialUtinsil @sickburnbro @transgrammaractivist Yes - strike at the root, instead of the branch - but the root was tougher than they anticipated, and didn't sacrifice all it's goodies for a quick-win, as they planned. Unfortunately for Russia, the slow way also has its drawback - giving the enemy time to counter-escalate.
Iran would not be easy either, though - is of considerable size, rugged terrain to hide stuff (like Afghanistan), and will have Russia continually supplying them.
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@sickburnbro @transgrammaractivist > ... the military has already said they didn't listen to him anyway, which is a problem in itself.
Yes. From this POV, neither what he or Jay-Dee says holds much weight. They could just maneuver Trump into things with the right combination of disinfo (see the "gas attack" in Syria - maybe send in Ivanka to cry), plus stroking his ego with compliments. Direct him to "their answer," then tell him how smart he is for his "brilliant assessment" of the situation. "You could have been a great general, sir!"
Israel wanted war with Iran already - really "USA fights Iran for us" - but Blinken (they say "Biden," but / senile) told them they are "on their own" if they start it. They also worked out that Iran counter-strike deal, with zero casualties - with a huge loss in materiel, to shoot it all down, as the payment to Iran. That deal prevented the war starting then. Of course, it is possible the USA "ok'd" that attack on the Iranian embassy which stated that - but I would not be too sure.
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@PopulistRight @transgrammaractivist they didn't shoot it all down though - which is the critical portion. A few missiles go through. Which is part of the reason they are chomping at the bit, because they know that Iran knows the capability rate of their Iron D'ohm
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@sickburnbro @PopulistRight @transgrammaractivist I remember that the ones that got through were the advanced ones with larger warheads. The scores or so that were shot down were almost all expendable diversion. Proving the system would be easily overwhelmed in a large strike and Israel is basically defenceless.
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@petra @PopulistRight @transgrammaractivist that's the downside of a system that doesn't have a lot of time to react, much harder to figure out which ones aren't worth expending ammo on.
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