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Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jun-2024 15:57:11 JST Jupiter Rowland
@Expert Plus 🍀 The only 3 social media that are currently surviving as Twitter alternatives are Bluesky, Mastodon and Threads.
GNU social?
Pleroma?
Akkoma?
Misskey?
Firefish?
Iceshrimp?
Sharkey?
Catodon?
Meisskey?
Tanukey?
Just to name a few?
They're all part of the Fediverse. They're all connected to Mastodon. And they're micro-blogging projects, just like Mastodon.
Mastodon is not the Fediverse. The Fediverse is not only Mastodon.
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Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Sunday, 26-May-2024 18:20:23 JST Jupiter Rowland
@:mima_rule: Mima-sama This part of the Fediverse has had an edit button since 2010.
Telling us to stop using it would be like telling us to limit our posts to 500 characters although we don't have any character limit or to stop formatting our posts.
It'd be like telling Misskey users to stop using custom emoji.
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Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Monday, 20-May-2024 03:21:45 JST Jupiter Rowland
@DerPepe (streams) You've actually quoted @Tokyo Outsider (337ppm). She has checked Hubzilla. To say she doesn't like it is a vast understatement. She considers Hubzilla broken by design because it acts and handles too differently from the Mastodon that she is used to.
CC: @:mima_rule: Mima-sama
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Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 11:35:53 JST Jupiter Rowland
Discussing Fediverse accessibility isn't possible anywhere. Now I know. Try your best to prove me wrong.
You can't really discuss anything on Mastodon because Mastodon isn't made for discussions and completely unfit for group discussions. Besides, you can't really discuss the greater Fediverse with people who only know Mastodon, and who want Mastodon's culture as it is right now applied all over the Fediverse instead of questioned and discussed.
You can't discuss Fediverse accessibility anywhere else either. That's because you'll end up amongst people who don't know Mastodon beyond having read that name somewhere, who often actually don't even care. And yes, this includes the Fediverse community on lemmy.world. Judging by that name, you should expect people to know something about the Fediverse. Turned out all they know beyond the name is Lemmy and maybe /kbin.
Also, users on Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams) take accessibility in the Fediverse for just another stupid fad from Mastodon if they learn about its existence.
On Lemmy, they don't even know about its existence. In fact, since both Reddit and Lemmy don't provide the means to make posts accessible, the very concept of end users making their own content accessible is so incredibly alien and unimaginable to Lemmy users that they automatically assume everyone who starts talking about accessibility is a developer.
Mastodon: "Why, of course, everything has to go into the alt-text! How could you even possibly question this? This is how we've always done it, and it's impossible to do any differently anyway. What do you mean, you can post over 500 characters? What do you mean, you aren't on Mastodon? And you've been on something that isn't Mastodon all the time? So it's a Mastodon fork? What do you mean, it isn't a Mastodon fork either?"
Friendica: "We aren't Mastodon, and Mastodon is dumb anyway. Besides, Friendica's alt-text is buggy. Don't bother. Do your own thing."
Hubzilla: "Mastodon does what? Really? And you say it's mandatory there? Meh. Just another fad they try to push upon everyone else. We won't let them push it upon us. Can Hubzilla even do alt-text? One more good reason to keep PubCrawl off."
(streams): "Mastodon and everything else that goes against the ActivityPub standard can go burn in hell."
Lemmy: "You want to do what? Put alt-text in a social media post? Not a social media frontend that you're developing, but... in... a frigging post?! Wait, you're not a dev after all? How could you even do that if you aren't a dev? You can't do that here on Lemmy. So you're saying they do that on Mastodon? Really? WTF? Like, why would they do that? Who needs that? What do you mean, it's mandatory there? Really? It is? You're saying you can be, like, banned for not doing something that's technically impossible on Lemmy? WTH?! This can't possibly be real!"
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Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 00:49:57 JST Jupiter Rowland
The above post is my contribution to World Sight Day in the Fediverse and Global Accessibility Awareness Day, just to show that I do describe my images, and that I do so in a way that I think is appropriate, considering how niche my images are. It is my first image post in three months.
There is only one image in this post, but with an alt-text of precisely 1,500 characters plus a long image description of 60,553 characters. That's more than 50% longer than my previous record.
I don't know how many hours exactly I've invested into describing this image. But I started writing the description on Monday. I missed some nice, sunny, warm days because I had to describe this image. I did the last edits today.
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Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 00:49:56 JST Jupiter Rowland
I've actually limited myself in this post.
For example, I'd normally describe an image in my images at roughly the same level of detail as my images themselves. I didn't do that this time. That's also because it would have gone completely out of hand. One of the teleporters has a preview image on it that shows lots of similar teleporters, many of which have their own preview images. If I had wanted to go all the way, I would have had to describe all the preview images on the teleporters in the preview image on the teleporter in my image.
If I look at the preview image on that teleporter in my own image, what I see looks more like a beige kite in front of a blue background. The 564 (!) individual teleporters in that preview image are so tiny, they aren't even visible. And my local copy of the image has a higher resolution than the one that I've uploaded. I can only see these teleporters when I'm in-world, and I move the camera so close to the teleporter that the preview image fills the viewport of my viewer almost entirely.
If I really wanted to see what's on these teleporters, I'd have to go where they are standing and look at each one of them individually up close. In fact, I've done so. And when I was there, I discovered just how many of them also have text on their preview images. Some of them even show images or other textures on these preview images which, in turn, have text on them.
Strictly speaking, I would have had to describe dozens of images in all details. Strictly speaking, I would have had to transcribe hundreds of bits of text. Text in an image in an image in an image. Sometimes text in an image in an image in an image in an image.
And strictly speaking, I should not even have embedded this image in my post. I should have linked to it. That's because some of the preview images on these teleporters have avatars on them. With faces. With eyes.
If I were on Mastodon, I would have to flag this image sensitive because there are images in an image in this image that have eyes on them and added a "CW: eye contact" content warning. I could have done the latter here on Hubzilla, but I decided not to let anyone know what's in this image on a microscopic sub-pixel level. And here on Hubzilla, I don't have the means to do the former.
So I decided to only describe one image in detail, namely the one that I've posted. And it took me a few days, and it took over 60,000 characters to only even do that. Call me ableist, but I wasn't too keen on spending weeks technically only describing one image, just to find out that my image description of hundreds of thousands of words happens to exceed the maximum number of characters which the Web server underneath this Hubzilla hub can handle at once. Then all the work would have been in vain.
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Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Friday, 17-May-2024 00:49:54 JST Jupiter Rowland
And speaking of eye contact: I've made another picture of the same building, an aerial view. The alt-text for it is actually done.
The reason why I haven't posted it may sound crazy: When I returned to this place to writen the full image description for the second image, I took a closer look at the image. And I discovered that two of the skin vendors are visible from ahead. With a preview image of the skin. All safe for work because they only show the face, but they show the face! Rather clearly even.
Two words: eye contact.
I could not have posted this image. Not unless I could get Mastodon to blank it out. And I can't get Mastodon to blank it out.
I immediately abandoned the image-describing endeavour. That is, even though that description would have been substantially shorter than the first one because I could have referenced the first one, I'm not even sure if I had managed to complete it in time for today.
It's actually a pity because the aerial view is even more spectacular, but that's the way it is.
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Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 23:33:07 JST Jupiter Rowland
You think decentralised social networking was invented with Mastodon? Think twice.
It was almost exactly 14 years ago, on May 13th, 2010, that @Mike Macgirvin 🖥️ conceived Mistpark. All by itself revolutionary and with features which no-one else has ever built into a decentralised project until today, it was only the first step of a long journey which led to Friendica, nomadic identity, Hubzilla, all three still before Mastodon, and eventually the streams repository.
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Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Saturday, 11-May-2024 16:21:56 JST Jupiter Rowland
Weather, Y U have to be so good over the next days?
I have an image to render and to describe, and the latter will probably take me a whole day again!
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Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Friday, 10-May-2024 22:52:35 JST Jupiter Rowland
@thisisaces
Are bridged networks Fediverse too, or Fedi-extensions?
I guess you're only thinking of Bluesky and Nostr.
But technically speaking, both Hubzilla and (streams) are bridged to ActivityPub, too, because neither is based on ActivityPub. I'm replying to you via a bridge right now.
Granted, this bridge named Pubcrawl is an official Hubzilla add-on, it's installed on this hub, and each channel has actually got its own bridge. But it's a bridge.
So if the definition of the Fediverse excludes anything that's bridged in some way in an attempt to keep Bluesky and Nostr out, it also excludes these two, although Hubzilla is as old as the Fediverse itself. Not doing so would amount to a double standard.
The main difference between Bluesky and Nostr on the one hand and Hubzilla and (streams) on the other hand is: Bluesky and Nostr are connected through one third-party bridge each. Hubzilla and (streams) bring their own official bridges.
So one could argue that both do have their own ActivityPub support. Not as their base protocol, through a bridge instead, but that bridge is an official add-on and therefore officially part of the project.
However, one could just as well argue that only Pubcrawl is part of the Fediverse because it "speaks" ActivityPub. The parts of Hubzilla and (streams) beyond Pubcrawl, on Pubcrawl's "far" side, their cores included, are not part of the Fediverse because they're bridged, and they don't run natively on ActivityPub.
Thus, the Fediverse's outer border would cut through Hubzilla and (streams) with the ActivityPub bridge inside the Fediverse and the core and all the other add-ons outside.
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Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Wednesday, 08-May-2024 16:55:18 JST Jupiter Rowland
@Stefan Bohacek @BeAware :veriweed: @ᴚ uɐᗡ @Sampath Pāṇini ® I don't have mixed feelings. From my personal experience, and for my own purposes, it just plain sucks. But that's to be expected. It would require extensive pop culture knowledge plus absolutely extreme niche omniscience in my special field. Like, if I've built something in-world, an AI would have to immediately know everything about it.
I've actually had LLaVA describe an image I've described first. Yes, it was an in-world rendering.
In comparison with my own 25,271 characters (no, I'm not kidding, go check the link), LLaVA's 558-character description was vague, it was painfully lacking and incomplete, it didn't explain anything because it had no idea what it was really dealing with, and it was even glaringly wrong in some points. It would not helped anyone understand the image.
I've got my doubts that ChatGPT can do much better than LLaVA. And I've got huge doubts that ChatGPT can produce something more detailed, more informative, more explanatory and more accurate than me from any in-world image I'd post. After all, ChatGPT would only have the picture while I could look around in the virtual world itself and see things that ChatGPT can't see.
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Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Sunday, 05-May-2024 04:47:02 JST Jupiter Rowland
@BeAware :veriweed: I can't say I haven't.
Not even half of the times, I get a reply. Some people actually act irritated. And I'm certain that I've been blocked just today, and that probably wasn't the only time.
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Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Sunday, 05-May-2024 03:58:50 JST Jupiter Rowland
@BeAware :veriweed: How often have you been scolded or blocked on the spot? Or how often has anyone complained about your behaviour? -
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Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Sunday, 05-May-2024 03:40:58 JST Jupiter Rowland
Are you on Mastodon?
Did you know that the Fediverse is more than just Mastodon before you came across this post?
Well, chances are it was a mansplaining reply guy from outside Mastodon who told you that.
This isn't something Mastodon users talk about, and if you only follow Mastodon users, nobody in your bubble could possibly have told you.
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Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Wednesday, 01-May-2024 03:38:27 JST Jupiter Rowland
@:mima_rule: Mima-sama My first thoughts when I read about the hard-fork plans were just this. If you want stuff in the Fediverse that Mastodon doesn't have, why not use something that already has that stuff? After all, my most popular post by far was about just this.
But by reading how @tallship and @The Nexus of Privacy explained their motivation, it looks like this won't be another "Mastodon + xyz" project by people who don't know the Fediverse beyond Mastodon. I mean, @tallship is on Hubzilla himself. @tallship is on Misskey as well. He's on almost everything.
If anything, it's likely that a hard fork will do away with lock-in measures and open what's essentially Mastodon up to the rest of the Fediverse. The idea is to have something that looks like Mastodon and feels like Mastodon and maybe even has Mastodon in its name, but without Mastodon's product politics and without Mastodon's "We're the Fediverse, full stop" attitude.
As first steps, I've already proposed an indicator for the instance type a post came from (Friendica has it, and I think at least one *key has it) and built-in migration on at least Sharkey's level to facilitate moving away from the original woolly mammoth.
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Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2024 23:19:57 JST Jupiter Rowland
Four years ago today, I entered the worlds of OpenSim for the first time. My first avatar doesn't exist any longer, it went under with the Metropolis Metaversum in July, 2022. Still, April 30th remains my rezday.
Three years ago today, my little in-world sister @Juno Rowland joined me, so we can celebrate together.
We're going to attend a weekly event today, and I'm pondering what I could do for this occasion.
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Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 30-Apr-2024 23:19:55 JST Jupiter Rowland
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Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Thursday, 18-Apr-2024 04:03:31 JST Jupiter Rowland
@Ben Ptacek User numbers aren't much of an issue.
A gigantic deluge of newbies flooding in from a huge commercial silo such as 𝕏 or Facebook or Instagram would bog mastodon.social down and has done so in the second Twitter migration wave. That's because it's there where 99.9% of all the newbies are channeled to.
But typically, as new users join, other formerly new users start new instances, thus creating more capacity.
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Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Apr-2024 17:23:24 JST Jupiter Rowland
@julian @Aaron Gray @Rimu Good luck making a standard for something that isn't even all the same all over the Fediverse.
Take replies as an example. Mastodon mimics Twitter. All posts are technically the same, whether they're replies or not. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever for Mastodon to name replies something else than start/stand-alone posts.
On the other hand, there are many projects that have a concept of conversations. Threads aren't made up of posts and more posts, but of one posts and many of something different. So a reply is something vastly different from a start/stand-alone post and handled differently. Separate entry fields. Fewer features. Replies have a different set of recipients than start/stand-alone posts. Or you don't even own your reply to someone's post because that someone does.
This is the case for nodeBB, at least partially. It has been the case for Friendica since its inception almost 14 years ago when it was still named Mistpark. It has been the case for Hubzilla since its inception almost 12 years ago when it was still Red. It was and is the case for everything that came after Hubzilla, including (streams). It's the case for everything that mimics Reddit, i.e. Lemmy, /kbin, Mbin, PieFed, Sublinks etc. It's the case for Plume as well as the WordPress plug-in. And so forth.
In all these cases, it's counter-productive to use the exact same term for start/stand-alone posts and for replies.
On the other hand, the same term is used for different things on different projects which leads to confusion. On Mastodon, "community" is an unofficial word for loose gatherings of users who have something in common. On Lemmy, it means the same as a subreddit, basically a forum. On (streams), it means a server instance.
Like Hubzilla, (streams) can't use "instance" for server instances because an "instance" refers to an instance of a cloned channel. Speaking of which, for almost 12 years again, Hubzilla has been using "channel" for a kind of identity container that's unique to these two and completely alien to pretty much the whole non-nomadic rest of the Fediverse. So "channel" may refer to other things elsewhere.
If you really aim to create a common language for the whole Fediverse and make it pretty much mandatory, you'll have to get the developers of all projects (or "projects" because (streams) isn't one) on board. Otherwise they'll be overruled by a committee that has no idea what they're even doing.
For example, if both @Mario Vavti (Hubzilla) and @Mike Macgirvin 🖥️ (streams repository) are left out, and nobody in the committee has ever heard of Hubzilla and (streams) and their channel concept and nomadic identity, Hubzilla and (streams) will be forced to rename all kinds of unique features while not even having any words to name them anymore because they're all officially redefined otherwise, because the common Fediverse language was defined with complete disregard for nomadic identity.
Also, I expect two things to happen. One, everyone wants to keep their own language. Some may argue that it sets them apart from others which is the reason for Lemmy communities vs /kbin magazines. Others may argue for how long they've been using certain terms, especially Friendica, and they don't want these terms taken away by "intruders". Others again may just be stubborn and, in turn, try to push their language onto everyone else. The latter I can see happen with Mastodon whose representatives will argue that Mastodon is twice as big as everything else combined, maybe even in combination with fake news propaganda that Mastodon was here first.
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Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Apr-2024 07:46:12 JST Jupiter Rowland
@Yohan Yuki Xieㆍ사요한・謝雪矢 Friendica and its several descendants, including Hubzilla and (streams), have been fully themeable since their respective inceptions. It just takes someone to create and maintain themes.
Early Friendica didn't go that far with its themes, but I remember that it came with themes that mimicked Diaspora* or Facebook.
When Hubzilla was still fairly new, it came with a bunch of themes to choose from, too. Unfortunately, it was too much of an effort to keep all these themes up-to-date with the backend. Only Redbasic was maintained, and the other themes were marked as outdated and no longer fully compatible with then-current Hubzilla until they were thrown out entirely. In the meantime, Redbasic doesn't look any different today than it looked a dozen years ago when Hubzilla was still named Red.
Hubzilla's UI in particular can be redesigned in such ways that you won't even notice that you're on a federated social network instance anymore, much less that it's Hubzilla underneath. However, there is no documentation on how Hubzilla themes work, other than the source codes of Redbasic and the old themes if you can still find them.
@Scott M. Stolz is working on all-new themes for Hubzilla, and so is @𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼 who is making specialised UIs for specific purposes, e.g. for Hubzilla channels that mostly serve as blogs. Both basically have to reverse-engineer Hubzilla's theming with a lot of trial and error. But Scott said he'll write a how-to once he's done with his themes.
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