Notices by Ben Pate 🤘🏻 (benpate@mastodon.social)

@silverpill @sovtechfund

Two Things:

1. E2EE is real. Initial versions were released at the end of June. Mastodon is funded to build a version next year. You can install and run my code today, or fork it: I'll help you add it to Mitra.

2. And since I built a full LOLA import/export, please fix your post that says "no one bothered to implement this proposal" to say "only one lonely nerd in Colorado implemented this proposal" 😉

I'd love to help add LOLA to Mitra, too, if you're interested.

I’d say yes.. LOLA is ready for early adopters. There’s still some wiggle room in the draft that needs to be locked down by solid engineering.

I’m happy to help any way I can.

@dansup @julian @gabboman

@Mastodon great work!

Sold.

@julian @evan

What would work better?

IndieWeb uses “Vouch” for a loosely-related anti-spam object.

BadgeFed uses “Badges” (obviously)

I’m trying to avoid collisions with “Like” because we’re already using that on the Fediverse.

What else: Recommend? Certify? Approval? Relationship?

Names are hard, but important. So I’d love to get this right.

@ramsey @tchambers @scottjenson

Online meetings are tedious, especially as the group gets larger. But everyone I've interacted with in the E2EE group (and a few others) has had only the best intentions for the Fediverse.

So, I hope you won't avoid them just because they're "corporate".

Tedious? Well, you've got a point there.

It if would help, I'm happy to discuss all of the plans and discussions out here. That's actually how elle ended up attending this morning's meeting :)

@silverpill @elle

@dansup Awesome.. just one more thing to hash out over beers 🍻

Yes. And thank you for reading this 🙏🏻

One thing about a *decentralized* trust score is that it is personal - you would get different results than me because you might trust different people (in different domains) than I do.

The draft hints at this, but doesn’t really address use cases yet. I’ll try to make updates, but most implementation will be left up to devs themselves.

@tchambers @scottjenson @DePemig @thisismissem @johannab @oli @laurenshof @smallcircles @GavinChait @evan @iftas

Yes. It is exactly that, with extra metadata.

What do you think we could do to: a) improve on this idea, and b) foster adoption around the Fediverse?

@ramsey @tchambers

Yes please!

The sections at the bottom are just some rough notes right now, but they will cover these two important points in more detail.

Also, I think USING this may be more application-dependent than spec-driven. So, a lot of will be up to implementors to innovate on top of this data.

@ramsey @tchambers

I assumed I would simply Block someone after the first “malicious” endorsement.

But we can certainly add another mechanism into this if we need it.

Is there a subtlety here that Blocks don’t handle?

@scottjenson @ramsey @tchambers

Tagging those who contributed to the `Endorse` activity design. Here's an update

https://github.com/EmissarySocial/fep-endorsements

There's more work to do, but it's enough that your input is super valuable. Another round and I'll post to codeberg.

Feel free to share with anyone with informed opinions, and no worries if you're busy/sick/uninterested/whatever - absolutely no obligation to join in 🤓

@scottjenson @DePemig @thisismissem @johannab
@oli @laurenshof @wjmaggos @smallcircles @GavinChait @evan
@iftas @tchambers

Yes to all of these.

I’m going to add: trust relationships.

@evan @laurenshof

So, what would “Better Safety Tooling” on the Fediverse look like?

And, what would meaningfully help the Fediverse to serve more people?

—
Tagging @laurenshof because you had some interesting insights I’d LOVE for you to expand on :)

Not comprehensive, but I have some things to say about this at #FOSSY / #fedicon2026

@zzepposs @tchambers @deadsuperhero

My actual goal here is to help grow the Fediverse, in a positive, sustainable way. I believe it should be an inclusive place for everyone, which means a place without purity tests.

So go punch Nazis.
Kick them where their nuts should be.

But HOW you punch Nazis is important.

People are watching, and deciding if they want to participate in this community based on how we behave.

And we could be more welcoming than we are today.

@davidgerard @rakoo @jdp23 @scottjenson @thisismissem

A developer in Korea just built a Fediverse server that runs directly on CloudFlare.

/r/fediverse users responded:
"this is cancer"
"you are a horrible person"

???

Can you please help me with a genuine question: what would make the #Fediverse a more welcoming place?

Yes, humans are just grumpy sometimes. But a real solution can't just be more HOA members reading the rules at the door.

What do YOU think would make a difference here?

Its great to have @soatok
digging deep into the #E2EE project and clearing a path for everyone to get involved.

Thank you!

https://soatok.blog/2026/07/15/the-long-tail-of-work-left-until-activitypub-has-e2ee/

@apps

This sounds so very cool, and it could be a huge milestone. Congratulations on a successful release 🎉

What's the easiest way for someone to take a look at this? Is there any chance you have a walk-through or videos I can watch?

Hello @HolosSocial 👋🏻

We are talking about you over in the E2EE group messaging discussion - specifically about your “Follow a Note” proposal for Holos.

https://github.com/swicg/activitypub-e2ee/issues/56#issuecomment-4780657551

Your design may solve one of the big issues we are having with the spec for private, encrypted groups, so I am hoping you can take a look at our conversation and weigh in on this idea.

And, if everyone likes where this goes, we might publish it as an FEP for everyone to implement 🤘🏻