Notices by Ben Pate 🤘🏻 (benpate@mastodon.social), page 2

@silverpill Thank you! I’ll double check the ActivityStream data.

@hrefna @puppygirlhornypost2 @arctic Thats great news, though. Only one hurdle instead of two :)

Perhaps we add this into that strict vocabulary that would document and normalize all of the different messages people already send?

@puppygirlhornypost2 @hrefna @arctic

How much of this could we model in ActivityPub? Is it a limitation on the tools we already have? Or just that we’re not using our existing tools well enough?

@tchambers @puppygirlhornypost2 @sebinthestars @hrefna @jenniferplusplus @lily

Thank you, and yes. Excellent issues to fix.

I'll add these to my list, with some placeholders for "Proposed Solutions"

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I can't stand when people sit on the sidelines and gripe about my work, but don't propose any way out of the problem, so I'm determined to not do this here.

I have plenty to gripe about, but feel like we should at least say what we'd do about it -- even if nobody else is listening :)

@CassandraVert Yep, great example. I think this is called something like "phantom replies" or "dropped replies"

And, I think the "Threaded Discussions Working Group" is working on something for this, but (as always) support may be spotty.

I've read several replies from people saying versions of "this is just because of the nature of 'Federation', so deal with it" but no other self-respecting social network would allow this behavior.

We're building ONE system, not many interconnected systems.

@puppygirlhornypost2 @sebinthestars @hrefna @jenniferplusplus @lily

So, apparently I'm collecting a list of #ActivityPub pain points, now.

(shit)

What's your top ten list? I'd love to compare, and make sure I collect a complete picture, even if I don't have a good solution to the problem just yet.

@hrefna I agree with you 100%

Do you see a path forward? FEPs?

Many here are so committed to “how things were” that it’s hard to talk about “how things could be”

I’ll happily sign on to something AP-adjacent (strict mode?) that lets us talk to Mastodon and Threads for now, and provides a richer overall UX among the implementers of the new protocol.

Any new group would have to be small, and filled with actual implementers, not industry reps and armchair architects.

@dansup Love this idea. And I’ll absolutely get behind this FEP!

The deeper I dig into the #Fediverse, the more I realize that we aren't building a "federated" group of individual apps. It's a single, integrated system. Something like a digital hive-mind, and everything is connected.

Those once isolated websites and services are like individual cells in the body whole, making connections between (API's, protocols, etc) even more important than the individuals themselves.

Piece by piece, we're connecting #Bandwagon to every corner of the open web.

Today, we're improving how links to your songs and albums display when someone shares them on Mastodon, Facebook, and others. It's a small thing, but immensely valuable to the social web.

As an example, here's an album I've been listening to on Bandwagon.fm: https://bandwagon.fm/671667a8d7963fa9c589401e

Wow! I'm making #Bandwagon -- an open source, community-focused alternative to #Bandcamp that anyone can self-host.

As of this morning, there are 99 #Musicians and #Bands who have set up #Fediverse profiles on https://bandwagon.fm -- and half of those already indexable on search engines.

So I'm humbled by the number of people who are giving it a go. There's obviously lots of people out there looking for something new.

I promise to do my best to give y'all the tools you deserve.

Big thanks to @thisismissem for walking me through some of the nitty-gritty details of ActivityPub and the Fediverse.

Her help is already making a positive impact on my work on #Emissary -- so thank you very much. Please support her work!

@subclub Congratulations on this roll out. This is a big step forward for the Fediverse.

Ok kids, here we go:

#Bandwagon, the open #Fediverse alternative to #Bandcamp is ready for its first steps into the light.

I have a waitlist online at
https://bandwagon.fm if you'd like to try it out.

I'm planning to build the first (dozen? I don't know) profiles in the waitlist personally, with an email questionnaire and FaceTime follow-ups if necessary.

Once I'm confident in the UX, we'll open up self-serve signups for everyone.

@dansup Yes. After Bandcamp.

I had an online discussion about a Federated-Yelp that raised some interesting points that might apply to SO as well -- How do you “federate” the features that DON’T fit into the standard social media formulae? Things like “accepted answers” might only work on a centralized server.

Also, this might fall under the threaded discussion WG. I’d love to talk in more detail if you’re ever interested.

@silverpill @trwnh

Sorry, I meant to answer this directly, but I'm still catching up.

In the original FEP, I tried to address the FEP namespace from w3id.org. There's a lot of good reasons to use it. But I'd hate to have to type `/fep/3b86` over and over. It's not very semantic, so I went looking for something else.

What do you think of using `w3.org/ns/activitystreams/#Follow`? Are those IRIs off limits for some reason? If not, it seems like a pretty good fit.

@silverpill Yeah, I knew I was probably going to get bit by web standards. And I *DO* want to follow the best standards.

What do you think would be the best approach here? I think it's important to keep it short, and as semantic/descriptive as possible.

Woo Hoo! Check out Baby's first FEP...

If you're a #Fedidev developer, please check out FEP-3b86 at https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/3b86/fep-3b86.md

I'm working on "Remote Likes" and "Remote Shares" that help you jump back to your own home server to post when you find something cool on another website.

Imagine those "Share on Facebook" buttons, without all the ick.

I know it needs some work (that's what FEPs are for, yea?) so please read, comment, and help me get this over the finish line.

I owe you all some links:

I'm building all of this in the open on GitHub.So I'd love to collect suggestions as GitHub issues, if you're able to post there:

https://github.com/EmissarySocial/app-planetary/issues

But, if you're not a software nerd like me, just send me a reply to this thread (or as a DM) and I'll do the rest.

Sharing, Directories, and Discovery are important parts to this, but I still have to build those out. LMK if you have thoughts/feelings about how that should look, too.

🤘

At #FediForum, @n00q discussed a Federated music service for #BandCamp refugees. After a few days of drawing up requirements and specs, and a couple days of code, something interesting is taking shape.

Here's a too-fast-tour of a hypothetical album page built with #Emissary. Custom skins, uploads, and transcoding music is still TBD, but so far this feels like magic.

Bands' profiles will be native citizens of the Fediverse to like, share, and comment. Excited yet?