@inthehands I'm also not claiming that there are no positive uses, except in the narrow case of the actual products that come to mind when we talk about AI. Large language models definitely have some positive uses. Likely many uses that would more than justify their creation, if it were not so extractive and resource intensive, which is very possible. ChatGPT, the privately controlled plausible fiction generator, does not.
@inthehands honestly, I struggle to find any other uses for the things we're calling AI.
People are very quick to defend the component elements of the technology, for some reason. But as it exists in the real human world with real social and political dynamics, that's what AI does.
@inthehands@KimPerales that very much depends on what the purpose of AI is. If it's to codify, reproduce, and shape what things are knowable and expressable, and to put that power in the hands of specific people, then this seems right in line with that.
@dalias@hipsterelectron 3rd party servers don't constantly re-iterate reply collections every time they encounter a post that claims to be a part of one. Because it would take forever, and it would produce an enormous traffic amplification attack on every participant in the network.
@dalias@hipsterelectron the de facto definition of a reply is any post that sets a value for the inReplyTo field, and the set of instances that can see it is any instance that received it, plus the few that might later request it.
Whether it gets added to a replies collection is basically never a factor.
It's also relevant that there is no way to query a collection. All you can do is iterate it. So the only way to confirm an objects presence or absence in a collection is to iterate the whole thing. Which contributes to the wild west authorization.
@inthehands It's definitely executive pressure, and it's also definitely social identity. *And* I think this terrain where our futures are so readily stolen and rented back to us was created in large part by the performative dominance and challenge culture in tech, and the way that shaped our tools and how we use them.
@mattly@inthehands True, I guess we're saying essentially the same thing. There's a bunch of people with power and privilege who don't like what's happening in the country right now. But, they're responding to it by looking around in confusion for the referee they think should be here to call fouls and keep score.
@mattly@inthehands That, and a lot of centrists fundamentally do not understand the nature of the fight. They engage with politics as though it's professional model UN. Meanwhile, their opponents approach it as the exercise of raw power, including state sanctioned violence when they can get away with it.
@mattly I don't know. I guess "gradually, and at great length."
But even that kind of assumes that we have a consensus epistemic reality to draw on and work toward. That's been under attack for decades, and at this point we have more like a half dozen to choose from. But thanks to all the LLMs, we're now hurtling toward a future where everyone has their own custom tailored reality. And I don't know how to handle that
@mattly I guess I just want to have a rhetorical landscape where threatening to kill people (or abandon them to die, same diff) terminates the other debate so we can focus on that