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    Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 29-May-2025 01:51:44 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
    • Kim Scheinberg
    • Jenniferplusplus

    @jenniferplusplus @kims
    Jennifer, were you the one who made that point recently about how a broken clock is •never• actually working even if it sometimes produces the correct output? Seems like that applies to Musk here.

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      Jenniferplusplus (jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 29-May-2025 01:52:39 JST Jenniferplusplus Jenniferplusplus
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      @inthehands @kims yep
      https://hachyderm.io/@jenniferplusplus/114543509417338248

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        Jenniferplusplus (@jenniferplusplus@hachyderm.io)
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        In other words, a stopped clock is always wrong. It doesn't matter that it will coincidentally display the correct time twice per day. That coincidence doesn't have any connection to a clock's function as a tool. It's not doing the thing you think clocks do. It's not right about the time any more than a photo of a clock is. Or a description of a clock in a book. A stopped clock isn't a time keeping device. It's something else, that's merely shaped like a time keeping device. LLMs aren't thinking. They aren't learning, understanding, or remembering. They're doing something else, that is merely shaped like thinking. They are a stopped clock, and they are always wrong.
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 29-May-2025 01:53:58 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      • Kim Scheinberg
      • Jenniferplusplus

      @jenniferplusplus @kims It’s a good analogy and I am totally stealing it.

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      Kim Scheinberg (kims@mas.to)'s status on Thursday, 29-May-2025 02:01:15 JST Kim Scheinberg Kim Scheinberg
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      • Jenniferplusplus

      @inthehands @jenniferplusplus
      I guess what I'm trying to say is, if we separate the behavior from the actor, the behavior is something that most of us want more of, rather than less

      Yet here we all are criticizing the behavior. Rather than think of it in terms of the always wrong stopped clock, I think of it more as, "Even a blind squirrel trips over an acorn once in a while"

      What he's doing might be public deflection, but it's still a positive for his employees

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      Kim Scheinberg (kims@mas.to)'s status on Thursday, 29-May-2025 02:12:50 JST Kim Scheinberg Kim Scheinberg
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      • Jenniferplusplus

      @inthehands @jenniferplusplus
      I was a Quora regular from 2012-17 and there were lots of, "What's it like to work for Elon Musk?" qs which often got first-hand replies

      The general consensus was that he was a horrific boss at Tesla and an inspiring one at SpaceX. My guess is he was far more hands on at Tesla

      That said, looking at more recent answers, his personalities seem to have aligned and he's a horror everywhere

      So I still defend the behavior, but not Elon

      In conversation about 18 days ago permalink

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