Notices by silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)

@light Thank you.

However, I'd like to point out that only W3C ActivityPub is an elite protocol. The version of ActivityPub we use in Fediverse is a vernacular protocol (in @ntnsndr 's classification): early implementers picked parts of the spec that actually make sense and ignored C2S API and all the JSON-LD nonsense, making application development much more accessible. Today, Fediverse evolves rapidly through informal coordination and semi-formal processes like FEP, while W3C stuggles to fix a typo in the 8 years old specification.

@fox No, that would make them expire immediately. But you can set it to some really big number.

@caohuak You can use limits.media.extra_supported_types

https://codeberg.org/silverpill/mitra/src/commit/743506840c647bfb97e1fcb1ccd172654e73b03c/mitra_config/src/limits.rs#L112

@caohuak Some fedi software already implements circles - Streams, maybe Hubzilla too. In Mitra, "Subscribers-only" is essentially a circle.

@areon @Elrick_Winter @digitalfox

@helge With some FEP-1b12 implementations it is enough to create a Note addressed to a group actor (Lemmy, NodeBB).

Discourse doesn't support this, but the feature has been requested: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/community-issue-tracker/5568

An ability to create a post from a remote server by @mentioning a category.

@phnt @fox I added the -dev suffix. Commit / branch could also be added, but I think that for now -dev is enough.

By the way, according to the SemVer spec build information should be added by appending a plus sign:

https://semver.org/#spec-item-10

Hyphens are for pre-releases.

What does it mean in practice? Am I supposed to parse HTML if a server returns HTML page when ActivityPub object is requested?

@fox By default access tokens expire in 7 days. You can change the default value using the authentication_token_lifetime configuration parameter:

https://codeberg.org/silverpill/mitra/src/commit/135ee5387a5aa99e23ae746301c0bde3d4816c43/config.example.yaml#L66

If the goal is normie-friendly social media with full ownership, it would be better to work on peer-to-peer Fediverse applications.

You can get to a point where you just install an app on your phone and it's yours forever. The foundation for this is already being built: https://codeberg.org/ap-next/ap-next/src/branch/main/nomadpub.md

Self-hosting is nice but it requires an always-online, publicly accessible server and a domain name.

It federates, I was told that it uses FEP-1b12. However, I haven't yet gotten past the actor discovery because there is always some bug that prevents further interactions 😅

@helge Join the conversation: https://codeberg.org/forgejo-contrib/federation/issues/55

Forgejo plans to implement ForgeFed which is not compatible with Fediverse. I think they should adjust their roadmap and prioritize interoperability with existing federated forums.

@p @iwojima @p

Seeing familiar names here. At least 4 of those were online recently.

@bengo

>What does ActivityPub + Ethereum look like?

This was the first thing I tried. Mitra had NFTs, token gate and subscriptions:

https://codeberg.org/silverpill/mitra-contracts

But there was very little interest, and self-hosting Ethereum node is too expensive anyway, so I removed the integration later. We still support Sign-In with Ethereum, though.

@iwojima @p That would be wonderful.

cc @p

@helge I believe this particular situation was caused by an application of robustness principle.

There is an RFC that advocates against using it: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9413.html.

@fox It's not difficult to disable media deletion but I think you should do it in your fork. I doubt anyone else needs this feature.

It's working, thanks a lot!

According to AS vocabulary, url "Identifies one or more links to representations of the object", which seems to fit.

alsoKnownAs, on the other hand, is often used to point to a different object. I think it should be reserved for migrations.

Found three new FEP-e232 implementations: Sharkey, dotmakeup and Hubzilla

https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/pulls/727

#fep_e232

@hongminhee By the way, according to this test Hollo can't process an activity if @context is not set:

https://funfedi.dev/support_tables/context/

I would appreciate if you fix that.