Notices by Oggie (oggie@woof.group), page 2

@cstross
I suspect they're going to instead strengthen the seal of the confessional (for the christian church only) and any discovered items are going to pertain to that so as to relate to the parishoners who came to them with these urges. Which parishoners? Well they can't talk about THAT, you just have to trust they're doing it for the right reasons.

Obviously, they work for a church

@econads @Bongolian @greenpete @pluralistic
Yeah it's a good line.

I wonder who wrote it? Shame when these things just lift wholeheartedly they can't give citations.

@mekkaokereke @benroyce @joeinwynnewood @Alon
After watching this, I feel like there is (probably accidentally?) some rebound effect on this. Not the ad itself, I suspect that was off putting ( if you say infuriating, I will concede that, just felt more like 'ugh, really?' in my mental model).

However. The way the conservatives are reacting to it, and the tone they are taking just makes them look -awful- and might galvanize. I am not confident in this, but it feels... possible.

@mekkaokereke Not even sure where to grade this, but apparently some of the more vocally mysogonistic right hacks are now saying that if their wives voted for Harris it would just be like her having an affair and it would need to be corrected.

So while your entire points stand, now they're apparently attempting to force the other thing into reality by vaguely threatening that it would be fine to punish a spouse for voting the wrong way.

@AnarchoNinaWrites
I'm sure the far right crazies are saying 'haha look at the silly government people, it was clearly untrue'.

I'm not sure claiming to have committed election fraud is a crime, but I sure as fuck wouldn't be tempted to do it even under a pseudonym.

I do suspect a lot of people this cycle are going to learn why 'do not fuck around with the US mail system' is a bit of a 'joke' in the sense of haha but no seriously don't. Odds are against this turning out well for them.

@AnarchoNinaWrites
oh god I hadn't actually come across anyone DEFENDING Cheney, that thought literally never had crossed my mind; I blame being tired or something. I thought it was just people marveling at the hypocrisy (oh heavens above!) of them feasting on their own other pure evil people in the same party (and I assume calling him a RINO, still not grasping the term).

They're both just...so awful. In every sense.

@AnarchoNinaWrites
I actually don't think I can come up with literally anyone that Trump wouldn't attack, and anyone who he'd attack that his ardent fanbase wouldn't try to then justify as being awful/evil and he's right all along.

The literal best you could hope for for some of them would be 'I don't think he really said anything that bad; you're exagerating. No I don't want to hear any further information on the subject, can't we not discuss politics? I still am voting for him.'

@waitworry @AnarchoNinaWrites
See? We had to do it before because now they are getting organized, and now this isn't going to be enough, because they might fight back to overcome the oppression they clearly needed before now.

And look how much this oppression costs! I know it's resulting in taking more money from you, but we simply have to keep this other group under control. I mean, they seem to be so angry and dangerous for no reason!

It's depressing that this works.

@AnarchoNinaWrites
I had a discussion with a friend a while ago where he was pretty sure Trump was bringing up Chicago for a generic racism dog whistle ( like Portland, or San Francisco are often shorthand, as you said), and he thought at the time that using Detroit would be too obvious.

Of course, we have moved on from such subtlety.

Detroit is about as likely to go red as DC. Hell, he's even going to Aurora tomorrow, and CO isn't going to suddenly go red- but he can do a racism there.

@freemo @GlasWolf @TabletopBellhop @rdonoghue

I feel like there's nontrivial overlap with the people who intentionally trim credit and the people who are all in on AI.

Look, someone else said it better than I did, but, I can do it ALMOST as well, so I might as well just pretend I came up with it, because in my mind that almost...well, it's like that meme with the 'I made this', really.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-made-this

I'm not great about making sure I hunt down original credit, I should be better.

@AnarchoNinaWrites
Even for a black nazi, I was a bit surprised by the overtness of it. Not that he believed it in his heart ( not surprising, nor does it matter much, actions etc), but the degree and specific stuff was far more past the edge than I expected.

Also the hyper realistic nazi action figures definitely was just creepy.

@homelessjun @inthehands @MisuseCase @mekkaokereke
It's also worth remembering that even the slightest pushback can result in quite a lot of nastiness. Remember this whole thing?

https://gizmodo.com/nypd-union-doxes-mayors-daughter-on-twitter-1843813751

They basically threatened the sitting mayor's daughter, and effectively got off without any reprisals. This is...kind of horrific when you think about it.

@AnarchoNinaWrites For me, the best value would be something that lets him walk around free and talk to anyone he wants. But he can't lonk to himself, he has no money, and he has to convince people on the strength of his ideas and persuasive arguments.

But since I can't think of a good way to do that, oubliette sounds a fine second place.

@MissingThePt
You...you think he actually noticed that one of them was called the jury foreperson?

He needed his nap time, you can't expect him to keep his attention on things! That's why he hires lawyers!

@hannu_ikonen
I still can't believe that Vance said that suburban women (read: white women) care about 'normal things' not abortion.

It's starting to feel like they just want to make absolutely certain they alienate everyone not 100% committed to the weird cult (and frankly, a fairly large number of them).

One of Trump's strategists also just claimed that since Kamala likes to have a glass of wine some nights, she's clearly an alchoholic. I wonder how that will play.

@AnarchoNinaWrites
So what I'm hearing is, you've already gotten your appointment for a face tattoo for Walz and Harris.

My personal favorite right now is watching the extreme, and I do mean extreme, crazy people on the right screaming about how not picking Shapiro is because they hate jewish people. Like, 3 weeks ago these same exact people were talking about them as explicitly shifty people, just absolutely layered with anti-semetic dogwhistles to the point where it obscured the points.

@AnarchoNinaWrites
I think they saw a number of people saying things like 'Yeah I'm weird, but they're actually just weird and creepy' and laughing along with it, and this is like a teacher asking if anyone smokes doobies and has got the 411.

If you spend your entire time insisting 'I'm super normal!' and craft the image around that, hard swerving to 'I too am weird' is very...well, that 30 rock moment of 'hello fellow kids' with two skateboards.

@AnarchoNinaWrites
If there was anyone capible of learning how dangerously toxic the maga crowd, the lesson of exactly how fast they turn on and attack their own would be relevant.

Of course, the population-at-large already knows, and the leopards face eating grouping, well, you know the saying.

That they went DIRECTLY for the trans stuff definitely supports what you said earlier, though. Do not pass go, proceed directly to attacks on masculinity via transphobia.

@AnarchoNinaWrites

I swear to god, I have snacks ready for tomorrow.

Because off the back of that interview, he's nonstop said things about how she's not Black enough, amplifying the message (never back down).

And tomorrow he takes the stage in....atlanta.

There is absolutely no way he doesn't bang that drum, in the middle of Atlanta, Georgia. He's going to wander off topic when he sees something shiny, and just go straight for outrageously offensive.

@AnarchoNinaWrites
I completely, totally, was against this 'weird' thing because I thought things like 'they want to kill you personally, you're in the line RIGHT after me, they want to rig every system you could possibly use to defend against it, here are the receipts' would be better- but it didn't really do much.

And for whatever reason, they are just absolutely unable to defend against weird.

I guess it's that absolute inability to mock themselves? They Very Serious People?