mekka okereke :verified:
And again, when we talk about mail-in voting MAGA coercion, we pretend that there aren't white women who do this coercion to their husbands. There are white men that want to vote for Harris, and their racist white women wives and partners won't let them.
Y'all need to accept how many racist white women there are in the US.
Because this election isn't about gender. It's about racism/fascism vs non-racist, non-fascist. Stealing women's reproductive rights is just a side-quest for fascists.
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mekka okereke :verified:
Yes, the "men don't eat ice cream in public" guy said that his wife voting for Harris would be like cheating.🤷🏿♂️
Eva Braun may have been a victim of domestic violence. I'm not saying that Hitler never hit her, or saying that I don't care about domestic violence if it happens to someone I don't like. Domestic violence is always bad. What I'm saying is this: she heard his speeches and knew who he was when she swiped right in the FashyFriends app. I prioritize caring about her victims.
Oggie
@mekkaokereke Not even sure where to grade this, but apparently some of the more vocally mysogonistic right hacks are now saying that if their wives voted for Harris it would just be like her having an affair and it would need to be corrected.
So while your entire points stand, now they're apparently attempting to force the other thing into reality by vaguely threatening that it would be fine to punish a spouse for voting the wrong way.
JuliesBits 🇺🇲
I used to be a conservative christian that was married to a guy who crammed the bible down my throat in every argument we had. There's that scripture that says the "husband is the head of the wife" and he spouted that to me every time he got mad at me. I remember him telling me he was going to "make me submit if it was the last thing he ever did."
It was an abusive relationship and I was afraid of him. It was tricky getting away from him but I finally got out and left my conservative christian church too. It was all wrapped up together, my church, my husband.....
I understand this clearly. I could have been one of those women who voted for Kamala in private.
After 7 years of hell, I got out and never looked back. And yeah, I'm a white woman who voted for Kamala last week.
Dianne Hackborn
Hm, I think the election is about racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia, and various other things rolled up in fascism vs. non-fascism
Racism is definitely a core foundation to the fascism, but homophobia and transphobia has been a super overt part of it. And the fact that Kamala is a woman (in addition to a person of color) has caused the sexism as well to be increasingly overt -- Republicans are now clearly playing to sexist men in addition to their overt racism.
Dianne Hackborn
That said the polling gender gap seems nothing like it is for race (especially Blacks). There are clearly a lot of white women who are quite happy to have the sexism if it also means they get to have the racism.
JackieM
@mekkaokereke my only quibble here is I actually think controlling women and reproduction is a fundamental goal of fascism, not a secondary one. Violent patriarchy is central to fascism, and forced pregnancy is the best tool to enforce it.
mekka okereke :verified:
You're 100% right.
My writing wasn't clear. Fascism pretty much requires controlling women.
I meant that the controlling women part is not the end goal. The fascism is the end goal.
Calling it a side-quest makes it sound as if they took time out from their main goal just to be mean to women and girls for no real reason, when in reality it's central to their strategy. Which is why atheist fascists are still against reproductive rights.
JackieM
@mekkaokereke yea exactly. Though I might even go farther in the sense that like, controlling women is a fundamental ingredient to fascism. So you can’t say, as a bad analogy “building a roof is not the end goal, the end goal is to build a house.” You don’t have a house without the roof. And you don’t have fascism without violent patriarchy.
But the broader point very much stands.
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