Notices by brigrammer (brigrammer@poa.st)

You're being a redditor. You're acting like you can predict where I'm going.

no, I am saying you are trying to convey meaning in a way that will not make sense to me just like when a client does when I tell them the software cannot occupy two contradictory states at the same time

when you say "it would be improper to say "radios create songs."" it is because you think the mind is being received by the brain in some way, perhaps from a soul or something, and if that is the case I have no objection to somebody believing that

as long as they accept that the machinery of the body has some mechanical nature that can be predicted, measured, and modified by means mechanical and chemical

if they disagree then they are arguing what I am going to call a "flat brain hypothesis" - a mind that responds to outside stimulus but is somehow independent of the mechanism they act on

@Humpleupagus @s2208 @Nils it depends on what that sentence means - a personal radio receives a signal and then routes it into a digital converter and then routes that ultimately to a speaker where an electromagnet vibrates a diagraph producing sound

the radio does not produce the signals it receives, they produce the sound waves we interpret as music when our ears parse the sounds and our brains transform them into music

and the radio signals are from some radio transmitter that has an input captured from microphones or generated electronically and either live transmitted or stored and reproduced

and I am sure none of this is what you were asking because you are framing a question that contains some emotional or spiritual element in a way where I will parse it mechanically

if this is a religious argument you would be better off giving me scripture so I can try to understand you

@Humpleupagus @s2208 @Nils I will use an analogy from cars - it would be like somebody objecting to me saying the engine isn't working because its sparkplug is dead and them asking me if I think the motive force comes from the metal box like some kind of ork

I feel like you have some metaphysical and spiritual objection to what I am saying but are not actually arguing that - I am not here to piss on your beliefs, just to make the engine start

my mind utterly separates the physical and the divine - when thinking about the meat of life, I think in machines and chemicals because I am trying to solve physical problems

if you are making some spiritual objection I simply cannot parse it - it would just go into a different part of my mind and get routed through a different flow diagram

@Humpleupagus @s2208 @Nils I can give a more complex and comprehensive theory of how I believe the mind is produced but I want to know at least a high level outline of what you think first

@Humpleupagus @s2208 @Nils okay, let's take your argument that the body - not the brain - is being affected by alcohol (despite it being a central nervous system depressant that observably interacts with the brain)

how do those body changes affect the mind if not affecting the brain? how would changes in the body outside the brain produce an observed difference in the mind if not a second order effect?

please explain what you think happens - not just object to what I've stated - I want to understand the other theory of action

Tell me why this thing that produces thought changes thoughts when you drink

yes, please tell me what you think - does it interfere with some cosmic signal, does it produce tears in the halls of angels, does it thicken the aether or still the phlogiston, does it agitate the neverborn in the warp?

go drink alcohol - does your brain operate the same?

I think you're confusing "brain" with "phenomenal states".

If the brain's function changing is not the cause of the mind having different outcomes, please provide an alternative theory of function

I am truly interested in understanding how you think alcohol functions on the observed mental state of people without it being a product of the brain's function being altered

@Humpleupagus @s2208 @Nils go drink alcohol - does your brain operate the same? go huff some galaxy gas - did your math skills go up or down (shame if it spontaneously kills you) - get horribly fat and watch your mood become deregulated as your body will always make too much or little of every hormone...insert a 62gr BTHP from a 16 inch riffle through the ceiling of the mouth and find that the mind is suddenly unconcerned with much at all

if you think the brain is some accessory organ and the mind lives in the warp or the aether or the halls of angels and the brain merely transmits its control onto the body, well - you can believe that, I don't do flat earth conversations

if you think I am trying to make some argument against the soul or some atheist nonsense - I am not - but it seems you cannot articulate a positive position and are limited to stating your outrage at the idea the brain is affected by mechanical and chemical actions and that those effects can be induced intentionally

@Humpleupagus @s2208 @Nils my position is

• the health of the mind is will fail if the health of the brain failes
• the state of the mind will degrade if the conditions it is in degrade
• chemical shortages or surpluses in the body can produce the first outcome
• difficult conditions can produce the second

and that their is a boomer tier of thinking that such issues will "solve themselves" and that it is not worth the effort to contemplate and prevent and correct both classes of harm

and that even if everything is right, some people are just evil at some genetic level or have some physical damage that will produce such evil and will do horrible things anyways - but for White people that is a very small minority

@Humpleupagus @s2208 @Nils given a petri-dish of brain cells can play Doom - and that the brain does computation - the brain is a computer in the mechanical sense

if you are trying to argue some metaphysical idea or religious I am not understanding it

@Humpleupagus @s2208 @Nils I do not argue humans "are the result of brains" (and am not sure what that means), I argue the human brain is highly unnatural and that modern Whites are wildly different from their ancestors even a few thousand years ago - and I am not going to go into a whole lecture on the development of the mind and the myriad stacking changes it requires, you can read or not on that at your own interest

and that what is severe brain malfunction for Whites is a Tuesday for non-Whites, and so if we want White behavior we need to provide the conditions that inspire it and not those that produce madness

from brutal and ugly architecture to genetically incompatible mates to constant screen exposure to diet to noise and a thousand other maddening things breaking down the soul, given such conditions some people will fail

and some people are just failures at a genetic level - and we should except that - but do what can be done for those who are not

@Humpleupagus @s2208 @Nils if a man wants to kill his kids, it either because they aren't his kids or he needs some severe chemical/emotional issue resolved

or he is a nigger

@s2208 @Humpleupagus @Nils my argument is humans are animals controlled by a soft electrified sponge of protein insulated in fat and flooded with chemicals - and that the human body and especially the brain are evolution stacking hacks upon hacks to make an animal multiple orders of magnitude smarter than anything else including things with larger brains

and that these systems, while literally miraculous, just barely work if everything is just right - and that people acting like the system will just automatically function in the highly unnatural world we have created for ourselves is silly

we are living well outside of our evolutionary bounds and have stripped all of the guard rails and support and community and family from people and have them eating hyper satiating foods and so on

these systems and chemical balances being repaired is the minimum viable product to not have people mentally malfunction that are not just bad-blooded

some people are just genetically ill, but everyone else is in an environment that is not quite as bad as Weimar, has horrors and atomization aplenty

@Nils I am an autistic programmer and cannot relate to normal human emotions very well, so I could just be very wrong, but I think PPD is just women needing support and vitamins and peptides and extra hormones

fix the mechanical and chemical problems and the crazy should go away (women lose enormous amounts of hormone production after birth and are drained of all kinds of vital proteins and minerals)

help with the worst and most exhausting period of child rearing would help with the stress and provide a backstop if the woman's mind goes off the rails

and women should not be learning about crazy women who did bad things as they have fragile minds - it is like how they should be banned from consuming true crime nonsense

@s2208 @Nils I don't think they need to be beaten, I believe it is a set of chemical and mechanical problems and logistic problems and poor expectations and support

and almost all problems involving people are just the consequence of normalizing and refusing to solve problems and pretending they will solve themselves

it is like how most women's headaches can be solved with sugar free Gatorade or a little caffeine - the body is a machine, the mind is a set of processes and both can be restored to function when they malfunction

@s2208 @Nils women are constantly dehydrated to a comical degree and constantly getting headaches because they cannot assume their body produces some symptom (the headache) from a cause (being dehydrated)

if they cannot keep their basic blood chemistry from causing them pain, they cannot keep more complex systems from going off the rail

and the problem is that the culture has a bunch of terrible heuristics that lie about this - and the solution is to deal with that

and again, some of these problems are just chemicals which can be measured and fixed for dollars - some of these are managed expectations - some are just going back to the past of extended family supporting new mothers - etc.

@mushroom_soup @Humpleupagus @reallyangry @penguin @DMA @Xenophon @KingOfWhiteAmerica @adequate I don't really care what historical Greeks looked like - but I do care that they put a nigger and a tranny and a whatever the fuck Zendaya is in another kike movie

I am past caring that they are injecting random nigger shit into a movie about [insert the White thing], I just don't want to see any of the brown or gay shit in any movie

I hope all of the actors involved get cancer AIDS and die screaming and shitting blood in the most painful possible ways and I hope the director gets raped with a chainsaw because fuck this kike shit - I wish death on everyone involved, including hoping Matt Damon suck starts a shotgun

• fucks up the prices of all hardware
• kills the IT job market
• causes brown outs and land prices to explode
• games don't even look any better in 5 years

I really want this sideways nigger to get drone struck

@satsuki after the coof shit was good (at least we could all work from home) - then this faggot helped all of these AI retards divert infinity nigger bucks into the furnace of shitty vibecoding and now everything is shit

you can feel the sucking wound in the economy where once there was capex and now there are infinite retard quality tokens

I hope he gets a slow and super painful cancer

@satsuki he did this shit before AI with trying to coin max - because graphics cards shouldn't make graphics, they should make tokens - but the other kind

I fucking hate him so fucking much

@satsuki yes, those "tokens" (and the coins which are technically something else and I don't care enough to know the difference) getting mined on the "blockchain"

this retarded mongoloid wants to make money doing anything - ANYTHING - other than making games look better