I’m probably out of the loop or daft on something. Is there any reason in particular why it’s gonna live rent free or why the comment about screenshots strikes so hard?
AFAICT, mastodon's decisions, which are arguably problematic (on which see: https://lemmy.ml/post/14973403) are literally trickling down to other platforms and infecting how they federate with each other as they dance around mastodon's quirks in different ways.
It seems like masto is ruining "the standard" with its gravity.
I'm aware ... I'm talking about the "moment" that happened last year where some hype grew around it. Whatever survives now is clearly a distinct project IMO.
As with economics/finance and crypto, AI is driven by the childish hubris of the tech sector to think they're above all of the other fields of expertise.
Otherwise, what strikes me is the urge to rush into an obvious ethics problem. Once the machine is near human sentient/AGI, then ethics dictates you have to be humane to it, which is not what capitalism wants from its machines (see Human History™).
The “preparing for new platform wars when your competitors are just going to cede established territory on their own that will be relatively easy to pick up” trap … easy to miss.
The founding myth of all alternative social media spaces is that they are in their essence better places than Twitter.
But so long as their membership is open and their quality reliant on user growth …
in reality they will be essentially the same and the differences, if any, will lie in more subtle/complex aspects easily masked by the founding myth and the celebration it receives from its adherents.
In this alternative social media moment, I wonder how much of a movement there is, which would require IMO a coherent set of motives and beliefs widely held amongst participants.
Instead I wonder if there’s a good deal of myth making, platform hopping, novelty chasing and incoherent motives/beliefs.
I wonder if alternative social media is a movement at all, and if it is, whether it registers at all with outsiders as to what it is about so as to invite newcomers.
I also wonder if the great incoherence at the root may be a disjunct between techno-capital motives and social motives … with techno-capital motives reigning supreme and baffled by the indifference of those with chiefly social motives … with big social media being perhaps the wrong place to care about and act on techno-capital issues.
In about 6 months time, we’re going to be 2 years since the Twitter migration, and able to take stock after a raft of elections, a Reddit enshitification and continuous musk and zuck activity. Where will we be?
For me, I’ll imagine the primary outcome will be to have forced a number of people to wonder what the point of alternative social media is while appeasing nerds and helping *some* marginalised people.
And I’m not sure “we” have a good answer without the founding myths.
Astrophotography strikes me as likely to be this, honestly.
Expensive and privileged. Nature based beauty rather than “edgy art”. “technical”/techbro. Aligned with technological advancement. Rural and anti-urban. Provides special knowledge or views only to those privileged enough to acquire them.
> Private spaces are a fundamental aspect of human communication. They allow discussing sensitive topics without interruption from outsiders. Supporting private communities in Lemmy gives a major new use case for talking among friends or within organizations. This use case is currently not covered by major Fediverse projects.
It's just that the amount of noise and "drama" necessary to maintain this constant vigilance against what a decentralised social media protocol naturally allows seems like a potential dead end with diminishing returns.
EG, many on bsky that those here would like to talk to have probably left here because of this "noise" however much they align with the values here.
Yea, for me, the whole "I want a relatively anti-social social media" motive of many on masto seems like something that requires better institutional/infrastructural devices rather than merely distributing it amongst defed, personal blocks and outcries over opt-in/opt-out.
At some point, it seems, some people just want a different system than what this is. Like a closed FOSS Discord.
eh ... as with Threads + fedipact, there's likely a spectrum where the louder voices can mask the "middle of the road" voices, for better or worse. Anti-Bridge-Pact?
What exactly is the difference between this and a new instance? I'm genuinely unclear?
Like, do kbin instances respect search indexing preferences? What about other commercial instances like moth?
My, perhaps uninformed/naive take, is that for those that value decentralisation, the fediverse being "friends" with bluesky/atproto will make more sense over time.
BlueSky/atproto is closer to a different take on decentralisation than anything else going on at the moment. And the fedi and bsky may be better off "together" than "enemies".