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   maegul (maegul@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 09-Aug-2024 14:43:33 JST maegul

   So, kbin.social (and likely #kbin itself) is dead.

   I only joined the #fediverse in the "twitter migration" and *already* have 2 accounts that died on instances that were "flagships" but just disappeared (kbin & firefish).

   No blame or shame for the devs or anything. They tried which is much more than most of us.

   But whoever "decided" that true mobile identity isn't a priority for #activitypub / fediverse, probably fucked up.

   Why hasn't the fediverse grown more? Instances & immobile accounts!?

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     @reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman: (reiver@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 09-Aug-2024 14:43:32 JST @reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:

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     @maegul

     Regarding:
     "Why hasn't the fediverse grown more? Instances & immobile accounts!?"

     That is part of it, I think.

     But, (in addition to that) I suspect typical people want influencers.

     But (big) influencers tend to make a living from their influencing activities. And if people don't want ads, then at the very least payments need to be in place (to get them to come here and stay here).

     (I.e., the Fediverse would need payments to be part of the protocol.)

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     silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Aug-2024 06:13:52 JST silverpill

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     @maegul mobile (aka "nomadic") identity is supported by AcitivtyPub protocol. But not many projects tried to actually implement it: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/ef61/fep-ef61.md

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     silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Aug-2024 15:11:37 JST silverpill

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     @maegul FEP-ef61 is compatible with Mastodon, it doesn't create a separate network like alternative protocols do. Connection only breaks when data is moved from the original server to another one, but that's not different from what we have now. Within the sub-network of FEP-ef61 implementations, users can enjoy persistent identities.

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     maegul (maegul@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Aug-2024 15:11:38 JST maegul

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     • silverpill

     @silverpill

     My understanding is that that’s new-ish, so it’ll take time and commitment.

     Also, the nature of the fediverse is that being in the protocol doesn’t mean anything really. The actual protocol is what a critical mass of platforms implement consistently. With mastodon’s dominance, that basically means it’s whatever mastodon does.

     That each platform has to implement protocol compatibility on its own necessitates this.