@teratology @Bernard @Flick @Forestofenchantment @Jdogg247 @LostInCalifornia @PNS @Vox @amerika @arcana @asa @cliffwade @eemmaa @h4890 @jeffcliff @magicalthinking @meso @noyoushutthefuckupdad @sim @sun @syzygy @thatguyoverthere @thendrix @waltercool @wjmaggos

> I'm not plan9 lvls deep yet though

You know, people will jump into zsh or fish and relearn everything and rewrite their scripts and Plan 9 is just an interface, you know? Like, even if I'm just doing Linux shit, nowadays I am more likely to do it using acme/rio (though that was a simple transition because before that I was usually doing it in Inferno, where I am still doing stuff).

People think Plan 9 is wizard shit, they think Inferno is wizard shit, it's really not. People will run Electron applications that run an entire browser and a JS runtime and that browser is Chrome so it has an entire USB subsystem stack in it and GPS, shit so massive that it makes Eclipse look trim. And then you have Inferno and it's like running a (faster) JVM, but where the JVM includes JWT and that has a file manager widget, Inferno draws a window and puts a shell in it and cp and mv and ls and stuff, so there's the Unix idioms instead of the Windows idioms. You think about it as a component of the system and it's less of a big deal.

KVM is much more lightweight than the JVM. So you can run a little Plan 9 VM, drawterm into it, and it's another interface into the system.