Notices by meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)

What kind of bureaucracy though?

Oh so they like the right kind of bureaucrats?? So they don't

attack bueacrats, calling the systems 'bloated', 'useless', etc.

Moving the goalposts much? And by the way, just look at the federal budget. I don't know about every other country, but here it's just a fact that they are in fact 'bloated and useless'. We're 34 trillion-with-a-T dollars in debt thanks in large part to these tax-eating parasites.

I'm not calling you, or Milei, Nazi's.[sic]

Oh, so you're just saying "calling unelected officials 'unelected officials' is what a fascist woud do" for no particular reason or implication?

"Do you eat vegetables? You know HITLER was a vegetarian! I'm not calling you a nazi, I'm just saying why would you even eat vegetables when everyone knows they were HITLER'S favorite food?"

Gtfo with your nazi fetish. Nobody's buying your Mott and Bailey BS we all see what you're doing.

do you want demagogues to be elected to positions of immigration or taxation? Or hell, the central bank or the military?

I'm an anarchist dummy, I don't want any of those things done at all. It doesn't make me a fascist to say I don't want them done by demagogues OR that I don't want them done by bueacrats.

You don't even know what a 'right wing government' is. Fascism is a left-wing ideology. Mussolini was an ardent socialist who got tired of seeing his comrades slaughtered in abortive revolution attempts and explicitly invented fascism as a pragmatic approach to implementing his socialist ideals by co-opting the existing power structure instead of overthrowing it. He praised stalin as 'an exemplar of fascism in practice'. It wasn't an accident that the nazis called themselves "national socialists".

You're just spouting buzzword salad with absolutely no coherence, just 'everyone who disagrees is a nazi (but I'm not calling you a zazi)', as per shitlib 101. So if you don't want to be called 'a shitlib' in future, you might want to reconsider your debate style. And like, actually know facts and make logical arguments.

Funny then that most every right wing government world-wide right now is attacking bueacrats, calling the systems 'bloated', 'useless', etc.

"Fascist regimes were mired in bureaucracy."

What kind of bureaucracy though? The apolitical, decentralized kind? Or the kind which has unlimited, full control from the head of state? These are in fact very different. The point I was making is Nazi's hate the idea of government departments which don't always have to answer to a president. Unelected officials, a common word used by fascists to refer to these apolitical departments, employed because people hate the idea of someone unelected having control over their lives... even though we do this constantly, and would be unreasonable to expect otherwise. After all, do you want demagogues to be elected to positions of immigration or taxation? Or hell, the central bank or the military?

"Not to mention that by this logic, anarchy is merely a branch of fascism because it rejects rule by unelected empty suits just as much as it does by dictators or mob rule."

I guarantee you Mr Milei is not listening to David Graeber and Noam Chomsky. You can tell the difference between who is making these critiques... I'll ask you do you believe Milei is closer to the far-right of Europe, or the far left, like an anarchist? I think you know truthfully.

I'm not calling you, or Milei, Nazi's. Hell, if anything it seems to me Milei is a NATO-loving, dollar-loving Jew with America's interests at heart. I'm just saying this sort of anti-bureaucratic thinking is very, very much what can lead to fascistic regimes taking over.

@matrixsasuke@fedi.absturztau.be understandable, I'll give it a try before I decide, I tend to use X a lot so the subscription may come in handy for other reasons