@Electronwarrior The conspiracy theories on this one are truly bottom of the barrel. Exploding lav mics? We all saw the footage. We all heard a gunshot and a supersonic crack. Questioning the shooter, his motives, and his associates or accomplices makes sense, but they lose me when they start talking about palm pistols and remote detonators. That stuff makes me wonder how those people manage to get into a pair of pants every morning without getting them on their head.
@Humpleupagus@Electronwarrior@chanon It was 5 days and that's perfectly reasonable. They found the bullet that was fired. There is no reason to suspect that it was anything but that single round fired. And, the guy that fired the round had turned himself in, after he told everyone he knew, including his parents, boyfriend, frirnds, and pastor/former scout leader, that he did it.
2000 people heard the rifle crack of a bullet going hypersonic. The video shows him firing that shot.
How long should a university keep up a bloody crime scene given that they found everything that they would have been looking for?
Dont you know every time someone bleeds on concrete we have to repave? Thats why Detroit looks like shit is they dont repave every time a pavement ape is blasted.
@Dudebro@Humpleupagus@Electronwarrior@chanon Can you imagine what inner city Chicago would look like if they cordoned off a crime scene for every shooting until the nigger got his trial? The whole fuckin' city would be taped off.
Could you imagine if they repaved the place, replaced the signs and street lights, rearranged wiring and power poles. I mean... how long do they have to wait to fix up the place?
Post a single waveform showing the "gunshot" and "supersonic crack" and known comparisons samples. For the original and comparison samples list the microphone, preamp, and a/d converter used. For each comparison sample, identify the gun used and state whether the recording was made indoor or outdoor. Either prove up your case or gtfo. 🤨👇
@chanon@Electronwarrior >Exploding lav mics? Yes, we already established beyond all doubt that remotely detonated miniaturized explosive booby trap devices are totes impossible.
@white_male Strawman. Yes, it's possible to booby trap an electronic device. No, that's not what happened here. A gunshot and a supersonic crack are heard in the video. Unless you're positing that someone fired a rifle at the same moment the explosion was triggered? @Electronwarrior
@Humpleupagus@Electronwarrior@chanon We could have independent autopsy, and not a rush job with next day burial. I think they even skipped state regulations to bypass this evidence gathering step.
Please present the original video with comparison videos showing an explosive chargea of the type alleged being used under similar conditions. Prove up your case or gtfo. 🤨👇
@white_male Yes, a bullet behaves differently from an explosive charge. The footage shows Kirk being hit with a bullet, not with an explosive charge. @Electronwarrior
@white_male We have footage of the pager bombs exploding. This looked nothing like those. You can stick with that if you want, but it's pretty retarded. @Electronwarrior
@chanon@Electronwarrior Yes, and they were quite different from each other and quite choatic. You'd think different device in different configuration apparently worked differently.
I established how you could prove it. I provided the evidence that would be probative of the issue. You claimed it is not be an explosive. Prove it up.
To argue that proving something isn't the case is somehow impossible is pure retardation.
I'm just saying that the faggot wants everyone to prove he's wrong when he hasn't even proved up his case. He's claiming kirk was shot and the audio shows it. Put up or shut up. I don't have to disprove shit.
@Humpleupagus Prove my nuts, nigger. You're trying to make up for your tenuous understanding of reality with volume of replies, and it's fucking pathetic. Asking me to make a case when you have none to make at all is fucking gay. @Electronwarrior@white_male
@Humpleupagus Literally all of the Mossad beeper bomb CCTV footage looks completely different from the Kirk footage. Do you have the memory of a goldfish? Did you forget this shit already? @Electronwarrior@white_male
@Humpleupagus Yes you can, on the left side. Explosives put smoke and debris in the air. Even that shitty CCTV footage shows it, and these are the exact devices people are saying were used on Kirk. IDGAF if you do divorce proceedings for a living, you don't know a fucking thing about ballistics or explosives. @Electronwarrior@white_male
@DeezMistaReez It was sporterized, with a poly stock. Those are very easy to break down, just a couple screws (and a screwdriver with Tyler's prints on it was found on the roof, btw). He said he brought it with him and attempted to retrieve it because he'd be in trouble if it disappeared from home.
Like I said, the guy in that video shows a modern rifle that is easy to disassemble. Not an actual Mauser 98 from the WWII era. A 22 year-old isn't going to retrofit an old ass rifle with a modern, easy-to-disassemble barrel unless he took from family that would have done that. There are a dozen Luigi plants ready to take the blame and go to prison for a bag of cash at any given moment. So, he took the time to use a screwdriver to disassemble the rifle, then leaves the screwdriver (with his prints on it) then after jumping off a building, he decides it's a great idea to take the now disassembled rifle out of his backpack and drop it in the woods? Sounds like he wanted to get caught.
Following that video and line of evidence, we can definitely call the ATF shrapnel photo complete bullshit... and the entire story of a Mauser 58 or whatever the fuck rifle... and the old guy coming forward to say he did it.... and the guy they actually accused of it... all a complete lie. You see how the story goes to complete shit with all of this?
@DeezMistaReez I disagree, that all proves nothing. An insane old pedo having a spartacus moment has no bearing on whether or not a rifle round hit Kirk.
I have some questions, if you'll indulge me: 1. What do you find suspicious about the rifle? 2. What do you find suspicious about the picture of the bullet fragments?
A Mauser 98 pre-serial numbers is not easy to break down, toss in a backpack, then dump in the trees down the road. 1) I want to know exactly where they found that rifle. 2) If he was going to leave the rifle behind in the first place, why the fuck dump it in some trees? Leave it at the building and get away quickly. The suspicion of the bullet fragments is in the ATF and their jewry. The ATF is not on the side of the American people and never will be. https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/how-the-gun-that-killed-charlie-kirk-could-have-been-broken-down/ This talking head shows a new-age .30-06. Doesn't show a Mauser 98 nor does he show the difficulty of taking the barrel off of one in the video. He does go into the same questions, though. If you're going for a body shot for maximum effect, the neck is not the place to aim. Bad training/experience?
It is extremely easy to stage every single piece of evidence in this case. Use the same rifle for the fragments. Plant the rifle in the woods. Have multiple backups for the assassination: i.e. explosive lapel mic, pistol shooter to his right, have a rooftop "shooter" to shoot a blank and mimic the crack of a gunshot. Motion everyone in on it with the tip of the hat from the guy in the white shirt. If they want you dead, you're dead.
@DeezMistaReez Because of hydrostatic shock. Flesh is mostly water. Water doesn't compress. The force of the shot violently displaces his flesh. The same expansion can be seen in ballistics gel during the temporary wound cavity.
I can't find any videos other than what the kike internet has. Go figure. Fedi is the only place I've seen the raw evidence, and yet my profile only goes back to March for some reason. Someone here has the high-quality videos of Charlie's upfront assassination.... as well as, the agent in the crowd pulling on his sleeve at the exact moment of the crack of the supposed shot. Three men immediately rush Charlie's body, clearly able to see in that video where they took something off him, then they vanish. None of it adds up. Why cement over the scene the next day? Charlie Kirk was clearly an advocate of young American men and helping direct all of us toward a greater America. He was a threat to someone bigger than just one lone shooter. ATF is gay. Don't quote ATF and expect any of us to believe their bullshit.
It doesn't make any sense though. The supersonic crack is heard before the muzzle blast, meaning the bullet reached the approximate location of the filmer before the sound of the gunshot did.
I'm not trying to argue with you, you doss addled cunt. I'm just mocking you because that's literally all you deserve and MIGHT just be an overvaluation.
The evidence is right in front of you, and you still come to such a conclusion that says conspiracy theories aren’t real. Your smooth brain refuses to believe a nation state or three-letter agency would ever assassinate someone. Watch the videos. Charlie Kirk lowers his mic at the very moment a hole ends up in his neck. Simultaneously, in the crowd, a man tugs on his sleeve. Following that, three men rush Charlie’s body, clearly grab something off it then disappear. There’s a slow-motion video of him getting killed. Shape charges can be the size of a CR2032 battery that will do enough damage to a neck artery effectively.
The guys on poast who believe this want it so badly to be true because tranny. Basically every ex-soldier on youtube is like >nah man ive killed a bunch of hajis and no way is this real life
@Xenophon@KingOfWhiteAmerica@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Electronwarrior@chanon What randos that weren't there say doesn't mean shit and there are dozens of ammo manufacturers and ballistics experts telling you that it is possible. And, you haven't explained away the hypersonic crack that the entire crowd heard.
@Xenophon@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Electronwarrior@chanon He did admit to it and absolutely did turn himself in with his parents and family friend. The police interviewed Tyler, his parents, and the family friend that evening at the local county Sherrif's Office. Made video of it.
The 30.06 (or, at the very least, a 30 caliber rifle firing a supersonic projectile) killed Charlie. There is video of Tyler going onto the roof, lying down, and firing the shot with the rifle that they recover in the woods where he is seen running into, with his DNA and prints all over that weapon. There was a hypersonic crack which means that the shot came from a rifle. If it wasn't Tyler's rifle, which rifle was it?
And Tyler's defense team didn't want to play the Twiggs interview for the courtroom or the media, because Twiggs and the Officer discuss, under oath, the several times Tyler admitted it, personally, in his own writing, and on several posts by text and discord.
@Xenophon@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Electronwarrior@chanon It looked like the shooter wrote it. In text and on discord, in addition to handwriting a note and telling everyone he knew. His "planning" consisted of inscribiing bullets with incriminating evidence, and going to an easily accessible place for 30 seconds and taking a shot that the courtroom saw on video, that produced a hypersonic crack heard by 2000 people. Yeah. He's a fuckin' retard.
>hello my beloved. I did it. It was me. I wish i didnt have to but the world needed to be free of Charlie Kirk and his hateful rhetoric. Now we can be together. :pepe_shiteatinggrin:
Corroborated by what? I saw the text. It looked like an idiot glownigger wrote it. Says exactly the stuff you need it to say. Apparently tyler is a fucking retard but he planned this assassination.
The bullet jacket fragment that was removed from Charlie's neck and examined by a ATF.
And, again, you're trying to ignore the inconvenient facts. 2000 people all heard the crack of a hypersonic round being fired. That means, specifically, that a barrel was used. If not Tyler's barrel, whose then? Ain't no palm gun gonna fire a hypersonic round and make the projectile move at hypersonic speeds.
Who the fuck said anything about a palm gun. 1st of all, it wasnt hypersonic. You need to stop saying that because you sound retarded. An avg 30.06 is 2800fps. Hypersonic minimum is 5700fps. Over twice as fast. So no, no one heard a hypersonic round.
2nd they didnt find a 30.06 in his neck because no 30.06 would have stopped after 3 inches of neck. The cavitation alone would cut his head off. A 30.06 can shoot through like 2 feet of solid meat easily.
@Xenophon@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Electronwarrior@chanon The bullet jacket fragment found in Charlie's neck was measured to be .286-.301 caliber. The hypersonic crack, which can only, reasonably, be caused by a barrel, was heard by 2000 people including the senior officer of the UVU police department, who was there that day, and testified to hearing.
You can argue that the round should have done more damage, but you have to explain how the bullet jacket fragment and 4 pieces of lead got into Charlie, and explained away the hypersonic rifle crack.
The state will present a bullet that was fired from a gun that matches the weapon. They eill then tell you that hullet was retrieved from charlies neck. You will have no way to confirm this. They will stick by their story that it was a 1 in a million miracle that it went in his neck and turned 90 degrees, and caused very little damage.
Lets not forget lindsey graham is having a closed casket funeral (because his corspe is in ukraine)
but sometimes discord faggots get lucky and achieve their goals
and if it isn't then it isn't
doesn't really change the fact that it happened, the state's apparatus failed, charlie is still dead, these guys were all involved along with rumors that lance twig is a fed informant
the court case wont be hinging on hearsay from the internet, it'll hinge on evidence presented by the state and that's all we in the public have to go off of at this point
maybe we'll get some good books about all these crazy times in a few decades, i'd especially like to read about why trannies seem to be such violent psychos, or avatars to carry out the will of other violent psychos
@Sergio4ever Ballistics gel is not flesh and it does not approximate flesh. 9mm hollow point easily gets ~16in penetration in gel blocks, but you rarely see exit wounds on (skinny) people shot by it. It's just a standardized way to evaluate and compare projectile performance. @Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Xenophon@Electronwarrior@FreeinTX@KingOfWhiteAmerica
@Humpleupagus We did this yesterday and all you had was some bullshit about microphones. You realized it was bullshit and fucked off. Why are you back on this? Do you think some lawyer nonsense can make you look correct despite being completely wrong? I deal in facts, and you peddle pageantry. You won't drag me into the mud to roll with you. @Dudebro@Sergio4ever@Xenophon@Electronwarrior@FreeinTX@KingOfWhiteAmerica
You have to prove it with evidence. "I heard listening to a tape" doesn't even get past admissibility. That's not how it works. Your "trust me, bro" approach is frankly juvenile and npc. Just stfu and log off.
@Humpleupagus This isn't court, nigger. I can't call experts to testify, nor should I need to. I got 500 characters per post to work with. Anyone with a rudimentary understanding of ballistics can watch and listen to that footage and tell you it was a rifle round. As I said, the evidence is right in front of you. You're either too obtuse or too ignorant to grasp it. @Dudebro@Sergio4ever@Xenophon@Electronwarrior@FreeinTX@KingOfWhiteAmerica
@KingOfWhiteAmerica The only assertion I'm making anywhere in this thread is that a rifle round killed Kirk, as evidenced by the cell phone recordings of the event. Not a palm pistol from the crowd, and not a shaped charge in the lav mic. Fucking retards are arguing with me about this simple fact. @Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Sergio4ever@Xenophon@Electronwarrior@FreeinTX
John Hinckley Jr.’s father, John Hinckley Sr., was a wealthy oil executive and a major financial supporter of George H.W. Bush’s 1980 presidential campaign.
John Hinckley Jr.’s older brother, Scott Hinckley, was scheduled to have dinner at the home of Neil Bush (George H.W. Bush’s son) the exact day after the assassination attempt.
there's no hidden lore, there's no thing that made charlie some mossad target, a crazy faggot got a gun and killed him and by denying this, people are just giving slack to and falling into the benevolent faggot propaganda trap
but i understand, people need it to be bigger, i dont understand why they need it to be bigger but they do, maybe it justifies something else, but who really needs more reasons to hate israel? regardless if they killed charlie or not
@chanon@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Sergio4ever@Xenophon@Electronwarrior@FreeinTX Yeah see all I’ve heard is people swearing up and down he got hit in the chest and not the neck; and many of the same people swearing up and down it was a .30-06. I’ve not heard a convincing explanation for how a .30-06 would have done that.
@chanon@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Sergio4ever@Xenophon@Electronwarrior@FreeinTX I’m not making claims about what you claimed; just saying it didn’t look to me like the sort of thing I’d expect from a rifle round that supposedly hit him in the chest. Shot directly in the neck looked more likely to me at first watch - even possibly with a rifle round if the claim were neck-impact. But nobody seems to think that’s what it was and I’m not going to harp on it because I’ve got no interest poring over it 😆
@chanon@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Sergio4ever@Xenophon@Electronwarrior@FreeinTX See that’s just a bridge too far for me to take at face value; it certainly didn’t look like a rifle impact, to me. I can attest all I have about it is some shitty videos, about which a bunch of claims are being made in text on screens.
There is no little hole. There is barely a cut. And the range from which the bullet was ostensibly fired means trumps head would have already had to have be turned before the trigger was pulled. Bullet traveling 150ft that moves 3000fps. Gtfoh.
Seriously though... who the fuck gets on the fedi just to regurgitate the most npc msm talking points? If I want to here what jews have to say, I'll turn on my TV.
Ignoring the fact you're literally unreasonable, and have continued to argue because you affirmed the consequent. You got caught, but keep running your mouth. Are you jewish?
The issue is that with a bullet with this much kinetic energy it would either punch through so fast it doesnt dump and of it, or it dumps all of it to stop in which case his neck would have visible exploded, at least internally, from the cavitation. You cant get around the physics. It is impossible to dumb 2200 ft/lbs of energy into a neck without seeing it.
They should have shot him with a rifle caliber that penetrated so at least we couldntake that argument. But we have to rely on the dr saying he had Wolverine bones.
He cant account for the physics of what a bullet would do in a neck. You have 2 choices. A clean through and through or a massive sudden energy dump. We have neither.
@Xenophon@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Electronwarrior@chanon@KingOfWhiteAmerica@rees It was not a FMJ or a frangible. It was a Remington corelock soft point .3006. The recovered bullet jacket was heavily deformed suggesting it did hit bone, and at least some of the jacket was disintegrated. Several lead fragments were found. You have no idea how far the bullet is alleged to have traveled.
It is perfectly reasonable to suggest the bullet entered the neck, hit his neckbone and defected downward, along with the energy, and traveled down his back, hitting bone (spine) along the way, his skin and flesh containing the shockwave to within his body.
This 6" idea is speculation. It could have easily traveled 12-18 inches, maybe even more. And, a moving bullet isn't limited to only 1 defection. It could have zig zagged the whole way, hitting bone after bone.
Again, several ammo manufacturers disagree with you that this isn't possible. Several ballistics experts have said the same thing. Why you're willing to ignore all the evidence that does exist because you simply can't wrap your head around a .3006 not making an exit wound is beyond me.
@KingOfWhiteAmerica@Xenophon@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Electronwarrior@chanon@rees Or down? Into his cavity? Bullet dropped 650 feet in flight, entered his neck, hit his neckbone, riqued downward, and traveled along his spine, cracking numerous vertebrae along the way. all inside tissue to promote the expansion.
650 feet? No. And not if it is frangible. Again, pick a lane. If the bullet was solid fmj it would pass through his neck like he wasnt there, if it hit his neck and his bones were literally steel, this is what would of happened >tldr 15ft circular spray of lead
Because the solid steel plate does not move, conservation of momentum dictates that the bullet must go somewhere. Since it cannot penetrate, it undergoes a process called bullet splash [2.3.2]. The bullet essentially disintegrates and is redirected outward [2.3.1, 2.3.2].
The Splatter Fan: The bullet fragments and vaporized lead are forced outward in a flat, 90-degree disc parallel to the face of the plate [2.3.2].
The Radius: This high-velocity ring of copper and lead "shrapnel" expands outward. The dangerous physical splatter zone extends to a radius of about 10 to 15 feet from the point of impact, which is why steel target shooters must maintain safe stand-off distances [2.3.1].
That's a lie. Corelocks are not designed for maximum penetration. Literally the opposite. They are designed to mushroom and deposit all of their energy into the target.
And, the only explanation I've seen about the sonic rifle crack is the suggestion that the mic, which many say is what exploded, amplified the explosion while blowing up, to create what people thought was a sonic crack. But you won't see this recreated because it's total nonsense.
@Xenophon@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Electronwarrior@chanon@KingOfWhiteAmerica@rees Tyler confessed. Tylers boyfriend provided damning information. Tyler's parents believe he did it and said Tyler told them he did it and told the police about his sus behavior in the month prior. Tyler's family friend believes he did it and told the police he confessed. DNA and prints were collected at the scene and sent of to crimelab, the FBI, and the ATF. The prosecution is unknowingly prosecuting a patsy? And the defense is unknowingly defending a patsy? Why isn't the defense raising these questions that you have? The defense did very little to overcome the evidence.
All the people I listed would either be horrible at their job or were intentionally helping prosecute a known innocent patsy.
@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Xenophon@Electronwarrior@chanon@KingOfWhiteAmerica@rees He confessed to Twiggs, in person, by handwritten note, and by text. He confessed to the family friend in person. He confessed to his parents, and they believed him. All of these people have given sworn statements. The parents and family friend were interviewed individually but separately. Twiggs was given working immunity (which is not complete immunity) for his statement. Then, Tyler confessed to his discord group.
And, if the defense raised enough doubt to leverage a plea bargain to get the death penalty off the table, he will plead guilty and give allocution, detailing exactly what he did in his own words.
Are all of these people lying? Was Tyler lying to all these people? Will you believe Tyler if he confesses to the court? You've disregarded every piece of evidence, you have no idea how you think he was killed. All you know is that a .3006 'can't possibly do that little amount of damage' and they paved over the crime scene 5 days later, so that means it was Israel, TPUSA, and a grand conspiracy involving the entire UT justice system, a dozen others, and a patsy willing to die to protect the scam. Right?
Also, it's not necessarily a "confession" if it doesn't corroborate the crime. A naked "I did it" can be prejudicial and excluded from evidence.
The reason is that "confessions" are an exception to the hearsay rule. Thus, if the only effect of the utterance is to make other evidence look more damming, rather than to show unique knowledge of the crime, etc, a good defense attorney will get it thrown out.
It is 100% these guys want to see a tranny railroaded. If this guy was a cleancut nazi chud they would be telling me exactly how much a 30.06 would have made Kirks neck expand.
@Xenophon@FreeinTX@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Electronwarrior@chanon@rees It’s a basic failure of imagination for people to overlook the sorts of complicating motivations for false-confessions in super-high profile cases like these. Really seems to me like FreekyTX here just wants to see a tranny railroaded - implying the bait is pretty good.
Exactly, and if you look at false confession cases, what usually occurs is that the "confession" corroborates the crime, but only because the police fed the suspect facts before getting the confession.
So, tyler was threatened, in on it, or totally innocent? Tyler's boyfriend? His parents? The family friend? Threatened, and therfore in on it? All 4 of these people are letting them prosecute Tyler and put him to death or away for life because they were threatened? Twiggs provided information about the dremmel, the engravings, and discussions as far back as a month prior. Why do that?
What about the coroner, and the people who prepped the body for autopsy? They found the bullet jacket and lead in his neck. They didn't find evidence of explosives or anything else to suggest an alternate theory. In on it? Threatened?
The ATF agent, the person that assigned her, and the person that reviewed her work? The bullet couldn't be conclusively matched but all the general characteristics match the rifle. And, did you see the picture of the bullet compared to test fired cartridges? And hear her explanation for why it couldn't be made conclusive to the rifle, specifically? Threatened? In on it?
The CrimeLab agent. She found the rifle wrapped in the towel. She found the engraved cartridges and all the prints at on the roof, and the shoe print in the grass next to the building. She also packaged the evidence (there is a tamperproof procedure) and sent it to the FBI. Threatened or in on it?
The FBI agent and her supervisor. They found the prints on the weapon, the cartridges, the dremmel, the dremmel bits, the shoe that matched the footprint on the grass.
The prosecution. In on it? Threatened? Are they knowingly prosecuting a innocent person? Or, do you think that they just believe all those other people?
What about the defense? Threatened? In on it? They haven't said shit about anything but the bullet alleged to have struck Tyler and the DNA methodology in testing. No questions about burns that would be caused by an explosion. No questions about planted evidence or faked evidence. They in on it, too? Or just being threatened?
Can I prove that Tyler confessed? Not yet. I can suggest that the evidence that he did confess is more than enough for probable cause to believe he did. If there is a trial, these people will testify to it, and the defense will not suggest otherwise. There will be no challenge regarding a coersed confession or that a confession took place.
@brimshae@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Xenophon@Electronwarrior@chanon@KingOfWhiteAmerica@rees No. It's really not. Yes. I said the "ATF" and "FBI" but I'm referring to specific people who testified under oath about what they, themselves, found. Specific people, who found evidence, themselves. The people actually testing the evidence. The Low IQ nog bish specifically said that "the governor of UT" and "Kash Patel" ordered the crimescene to be paved over. Doesn't that suggest that they are being accused of participating in the frame-up?
The people insisting that a lav mic exploded are suggesting that there was no rifle crack. The senior officer at UVU testified that there was. 2000 people heard it. Was he lying?
There would have to be lots of people in on framing this guy. Why not just kill Charlie in his own home, while he's there alone, and that same coroner that would have had to be in on it to plant the .3006 evidence, could have just as easily called a home death a shower slip and fall.
There's nothing missing. FaginTX is making knowingly deficient arguments. No one is this fucking stupid. Who ever operates the account wears a coaster on their bald spot.
@FreeinTX@Xenophon@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Electronwarrior@chanon@brimshae@rees What seems to be missing from your whole line of reasoning, is the awareness that the State apparatus, in cooperation with International Finance, is using a super high profile murder case to further their interests. Say this “Tyler” gets the death penalty; great ! who gives a shit ? Is it getting to the root of the problem ? Does this affect the chances the establishment will continue pulling fake and/or gay shit like this ?
It really doesn’t matter too much to me whether they dispose of one given troon or another; what does seem a heck of a lot more attractive to me is a military-industrial-faggotry complex collapsing under the weight of its own damnable stupidity.
And, name someone that confessed and got life in prison but only confessed to avoid the death penalty but then later exonerated. Let's take a look at those cases.
@Humpleupagus@Xenophon@Dudebro@Electronwarrior@chanon@KingOfWhiteAmerica@rees A confession would absolutely be cooberated by his videotaped presence on the roof, lying down, taking the shot, and running off. And all the DNA at the scene, on the weapon, on the engraved bullets, going to campus 4 times that day.
@KingOfWhiteAmerica@Xenophon@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Electronwarrior@chanon@rees False confessions cooberated by all the physical evidence? Name some innocent people that confessed to avoid the death penalty, get life in prison, and are later exonerated. If it happens all the time, I'm sure you can name at least a few.
@KingOfWhiteAmerica@brimshae@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Xenophon@Electronwarrior@chanon@rees Oh, you're saying that you don't have access to evidence that would show something other than what was presented in court? Fair enough. But you can't even articulate a reasonable alternative theory without the involvement of dozens of independent people with no connection to each other or to any single entity that fits the facts.
How many people lied and were in on it during just the Karen Read trial? More than one? Three police departments? A house full of people that all "heard a confession?" A murder weapon (car) that could not have committed the murder? Injuries inconsistent with the theory of prosecution? The judge and prosecution in on it? Could not happen! Why would they do that?
@KingOfWhiteAmerica@brimshae@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Xenophon@Electronwarrior@chanon@rees The official take, at this point, given the evidence is that a round, .286-.301 inches with a 6Right twist, killed Charlie Kirk by striking him in the neck. The bullet jacket fragment and 4 pieces of lead were recovered inside the body. A rifle, a 30-06 with a 6 right twist was found in the area where the accused was videotaped entering and leaving twice that day with his prints and DNA found on the towel, along with engraved ammo, with scribes connected to Tyler, and a dremmel and bits with DNA found in his apartment.
There has been dozens of ammo manufacturers, ballistics expert, vets and hunters telling you that it's possible to not have an exit wound and you can see the massive expansion in the neck area in the video of the kill shot along with the supersonic crack of a rifle shot.
The 6" bullet travel theory is a lie. The bullet likely traveled at least 12-18" hitting multiple vertebrea. Totally possible.
@FreeinTX@brimshae@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Xenophon@Electronwarrior@chanon@rees Alternative to what ? The .30-06 to the chest explanation is stupid - for stupid and ignorant people to swallow. Why do I care what trannyfaggot they pin it on ? If they’re so obviously lying about the murder weapon, I’m not going to believe any of it. Not my circus, not my monkeys; but all y’alls dumb for falling for it 😂
@KingOfWhiteAmerica@PodunkPotato@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Xenophon@Electronwarrior@chanon@brimshae@rees Yeah, cause killing a jew duck sucking zionist retard in front of 2000 people at a small UT college to stop Tucker Carleson from speaking at a TPUSA event (even though he since has, twice) is somehow the same as the government allowing US trained, Saudi funded terrorists to hit the WTC to begin their "War on Terror" and subsequently invade Iraq at the behest of Israel.
Also, there was plenty of evidence that 9-11 was an inside job. There ain't dick to prove anyone but Tyler shot Charlie.
>Was there video, DNA, prints, and a confession made to everyone Karen Reid knew? Yes. The police dept. hid, deleted and reversed video footage to hide evidence. They also destroyed phone records. And the EMT perjured herself will a fake confession said to be from Karen. >Was cops accused or found to have planted evidence? Yes, the car taillight was broken after impound and the pieces spread willy nilly on the crime scene in a pattern impossible by the physics.
And while the LOW IQ nog bish Candace Owens might suggest Kash Patel was in on it, the lady from the FBI who examined the weapon, the cartridges, and items in Tyler's apartment, evidence that she, herself, found at the scene, didn't seem stupid and no one has suggested or insinuated that she's been threatened or willfully trying to frame Tyler.
I am saying, not suggesting, saying, that the idea that a crime or cover-up is impossible because more than one person would need be involved in it is one of the most brain dead retarded things I have ever heard.
@PodunkPotato@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Xenophon@Electronwarrior@chanon@KingOfWhiteAmerica@brimshae@rees I didn't say that. I said that this conspiracy theory would have to involve dozens of people with no connection to each other and no connections to the case, in addition to the wild speculations about Israel, Egypt, France, the UT governor, Kash Patel, Erika Kirk and Nutandyahoo also being involved.
Apparently, and I don't know the case at all, Reade was accused by people directly related to the people involved and that they falsified evidence because of that relationship. Further, in that case, the evidence was scant and circumstantial, which is why she had a hung jury in the first trial. Several people in the jury saw through the lies before they were exposed. And then later, the evidence was shown to be faked by the federal police, which led to an acquittal.
In this case, the evidence is not circumstantial. There is plenty of physical evidence, a confession, as stated by Tyler's parents, boyfriend, and friends. He's on video with a rifle that generally matches the rifle that fired the bullet recovered, taking the shot at the exact time Charlie is struck, causing a supersonic crack that is only possible by material being accelerated to supersonic speed. And it was the Feds that examined the evidence and came to their conclusions damning Tyler.
And it was the Feds that examined the evidence and came to their conclusions damning Tyler.
Case closed, go home everyone. The feds would never lie. Boy, I sure feel silly for thinking there was something more at play than a mentalliy and physically unwell delusional son-of-a-cop troon-fucking faggot going on here.
I can't BELIEVE I never thought to ask the federal government, the FUCKING BASTION of honesty, competence, and truthfulness. And hell, the feds? That means FBI, right? Kash Mutha-Fuckin'-Money Patel is in charge of that, and we all know how smart, smart, honest, and competent Saars are. We, I had some really helpful Indian feller help me the other day. He called and said I owed the Eye Arr Ess $20,000, but he could get me a deal if I got $10,000 in gift cards for Apple Pay they'd wave the other half! I sure am glad we've got nice Indyun boys like that headin' up the Eff Bee Eye.
Tyler will plead guilty and offer allocution if they agree to take the death penalty off the table. If they don't, there will be a trial. You'll see the zoomed in video of Tyler taking the shot. You will see pictures of the bullet in Charlie's spine, and you will watch Tyler's boyfriend, parents and family friend testify about what Tyler told them.
Police are idiots. If the head of the fbi says >this is the guy Cops will go after him like a dog after a bone. How are you this retarded? Conspiracies dont need to be vast, otherwise they would never exist. Jackboots literally take ACs out of peoples houses and defend brown migrants because a paycheck. You are a nigger.
And, best part, you don't have to trust her. She showed her work and the work she did show was also reviewed by another not no-name FBI agents who also has no connection to the victim, the accused, or mossad.
Serious question: Are you actually fucking retarded? I already gave a LENGTHY statement filled with mirth and satire stating that the FBI is untrustworthy.
Follow up: If I don't trust the street shitter IN CHARGE OF THE ENTIRE PLACE, why would I give a damn what some no-name woman says?
@KingOfWhiteAmerica@PodunkPotato@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Xenophon@Electronwarrior@chanon@brimshae@rees Yeah, and for the conspiracy to be true, there must be numerous players in the local, state, and federal law enforcement, including the most senior cop and security video editor at a small, never heard of, university. Numerous players in the court, on both sides, maybe even the district court judge and potentially people in a jury. People in the coroner's office. The Utah County Coroner's office. Numerous people directly associated with the alleged patsy. People who seemingly care for the alledged shooter, singing the same sing, at the same time, giving detailed handwritten sworn statements. And, depending on whose barfing up their version of the fantasy, Tyler, himself.
All of the people playing a very specific, carefully crafted narratives, using equipment that doesn't even exist, or is extremely rare, and all the people involved with the supply and procurement of these make believe things. Hand signalers. Palm gunmen. Lav mic bomb makers. Maroon shirt wearers. Israeli phone owners. Hell, wasnt it even suggested that Ben Shapiro was on the phone with the hit team in the car while Charlie died?
And, again, the people making millions on this grift could hire people to investigate this. Why won't they? They scared, too? Some of this bullshit would be easily proven.
One interview criticizing Israel and a partial conversation about being frustrated with his billionaire donors is not going to get you killed in a grand conspiracy involving numerous local, state, and federal agencies, 4-6 witnesses (all close to the accused) and a state's judicial system.
If jews wanted Kirk gone, they could have simply stopped giving him money. If they wanted him discredited, they could have gone after him for white collar crimes associated with running a grift Corp. And, if they wanted him dead, Charlie could have slipped and fell in the shower. If they had a coronor on tap to plant carefully crafted fake evidence (bullets matching the general characteristics of the rifle, DNA, fingerprints, and etched cartridges), he certainly would have said Charlie fractured his skull by hitting the toilet. And, since his Erika was Charlie's handler (seriously?), she could have easily backed that play. "Yeah Charlie wasn't feeling well so he took an ambion and was gonna shower before bed." No one would have questioned it. No trial. No hearings. No specially crafted evidence. No bizaro murder weapons. No super-powered PA systems. No dozens of plants. No maroon shirts. No Egyptian Aircraft.
@FreeinTX@PodunkPotato@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Xenophon@Electronwarrior@chanon@brimshae@rees All these points were already addressed. I haven’t really been harping on the jews much, because I highly doubt a significant number of jews were personally in the know. In this case, it’s a joint State / Intelligence venture. That the State apparatus and Intelligence happened to be aligned with the political interests of International Finance, there’s not much reason to object about calling them “the jews” because International Finance is largely a jewish political interest.
@KingOfWhiteAmerica@PodunkPotato@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Xenophon@Electronwarrior@chanon@brimshae@rees Yes. Zero fucking connection. And to think otherwise is seriously fucking delusional. Charlie Kirk was a jew billionaire funded zionist suck dick that drew a few thousand people to mid sized campuses (more people were killed on 9-11 than attended the UVU event) who complained in a partially exposed conversation about how Charlie's credibility was being destroyed by his support for his donors.
After 9-11, we got the Patriot Act. After Charlie Kirk was shot, Trump bragged about his new White House building.
@FreeinTX@PodunkPotato@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@Xenophon@Electronwarrior@chanon@brimshae@rees I certainly don’t at all dispute Kirk was a huge zionist for virtually the entirety of his career. But to those whom much is given, from them much is expected. Toward the end there, he’s seen to begin publicly questioning the rightness of zionism - I saw the interview between him and Shapiro.
@Xenophon@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@PodunkPotato@Electronwarrior@chanon@KingOfWhiteAmerica@brimshae@rees 2 people at the university police 2 people at the university Administration 2 people at the Utah County Coroner's Office 2 people on the prosecution team 2 people on the defense team 2 people at the fbi 2 people at the ATF 2 people at the UT State Crimelab 2 people at the UT DPS 2 people who gave birth to the accused 1 tranny who the accused was fuckin' 1 judge 1 or more of the jury if there's a trial And depending upon who you believe The UT governor Kash Patel Ben Shapiro Erika Kirk 2 people at TPUSA The people with the palm gun The exploding lav mic bomb maker The magic PA audio provider
And, if Typer confesses in a plea deal, the accused, himself.
The raw footage was played, and you can see the same thing, just unzoomed. In fact, the judge ruled that the enhanced video needed not to be played to the media because it's redundant and could potentially taint the jury pool.
But answer the question. Do you believe that Tyler was never on that roof at all?
Yes. It's reasonable to assume it takes lots of people to make a movie, as seen on the credits. It's fucking retarded to think that all these unconnected people would participate in a conspiracy to murder a zionist retard and Israeli shill. And, if they did, someone could make a fortune exposing any part of it. Versus those who make a fortune bullshitting about it.
@Humpleupagus@Xenophon@Dudebro@PodunkPotato@Electronwarrior@chanon@KingOfWhiteAmerica@brimshae@rees 1 person person pleads guilty of DNA sampling fraud? So? That would matter if the only damning evidence was DNA. And, how often do we get people convicted of DNA fraud? Rarely? But Israel is gonna get a DNA fraudster, a fingerprint fraudster, a rifle and ammo examination fraudster, and hook them up with a patsy, his boyfriend, his parents, a family friend to frame a zioist retard instead of just killing him in his sleep at home? Why?
@FreeinTX@Xenophon@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@PodunkPotato@Electronwarrior@chanon@brimshae@rees In the early reporting of 9/11, early witnesses described a bunch of explosions - boom boom boom boom etc; but within a couple hours none of them got any air time; only people talking about seeing the planes. This is basic perception management. All the earlier reporting simply no longer entered the public narrative
@KingOfWhiteAmerica@Xenophon@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@PodunkPotato@Electronwarrior@chanon@brimshae@rees No. There really does. Starting with Tyler, his parents and the family friend. Then, the defense that isn't raising ANY of the concerns mentioned about lav mic bombs, palm guns, alternative theories. Some of it easily proven and totally exculpatory. The coroner who would have had to plant the bullet, lie about the cause of death, and ignore actual evidence of a bomb or a non supersonic projectile. The state crimelab that gathered the physical evidence and packaged it using Chain of Custody standards for evidence.
Some gamer dude gets his Brony pals‘ livestream and talks about stuff he saw there that day; I’m never going to hear about it.
Bunch of college randos follow the events and say among themselves, “yeah man, I was there, and they’re all full of shit” — I’m never going to hear about it.
Actual air-time that reaches significant audience numbers is gatekept fiercely.
@KingOfWhiteAmerica@Xenophon@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@PodunkPotato@Electronwarrior@chanon@brimshae@rees Bullshit. Candace Owens put Mitch from Fort whatever the fuckin place in AZ, and let him blatantly lie his ass off about Erika Kirk. There are literally a dozen talking heads that would give ANYONE with enough gumption to say that they saw something. And no, they couldn't give one fuck if that somebody was obviously lying.
@Humpleupagus@KingOfWhiteAmerica@Dudebro@PodunkPotato@Xenophon@Electronwarrior@chanon@BowsacNoodle@brimshae@rees Numerous people at the local, state, and federal level, Numerous people at the UT district Court, a patsy, his family, friends, and lover, never seen before weapons, "high powered" PA systems, and the coroner's office all working together to murder a hardly known zionist retard because he did a bad interview with Ben Shapiro seems to fit the concept of a "grand conspiracy."
@FreeinTX@KingOfWhiteAmerica@Xenophon@Humpleupagus@Dudebro@PodunkPotato@Electronwarrior@chanon@brimshae@rees >”this is what you saw” says a man in a suit handing a clear plastic bag with a bent lead bullet to the coroner. “This is the projectile, or your family is next.” That doesn’t even require the last line. Charlie was allegedly a friend of the president, which means anyone with any inkling of political understanding would recognize the meaning and danger. I’m not saying this happened, but I am saying it doesn’t take a ton of willing participants to commit conspiracy.
That's not true. You're assuming the amplitude of the signal is flat and that that diaphragm response is as well. That's not how signals or microphones work, ass hat.