Notices by RD (rd4anarchy@kolektiva.social), page 2

@nicholas_saunders @thetechtutor @aral

My moral standards do not recognize the right of the state of Israel - or any other state - to exist in the first place.

@nicholas_saunders @thetechtutor @aral

>>...you don't specify what military action would've been legal following the #AlAqsaFlood operation.<<

My criticisms of Israel are not based on rule of law.

Focusing specifically on a hypothetical response to that particular event alone ignores the long history of Israel's occupation, oppression, apartheid, and its part in creating Hamas in the first place.

As someone who is not a military planner I'm not sure what the point would be of my speculation. But I do insist that Israel should not be killing children and other innocent people.

I may not have all the military-grade answers on how to defend against terrorists without killing kids but I'm pretty sure that dropping 2,000 lb dumb bombs in crowded civilian neighborhoods (for example) does not show genuine intent to limit civilian casualties. I've also watched videos of Palestinians with white flags, even following IDF instructions, being shot down in cold blood for no legitimate reason. I might suggest that's another thing that should stop.

@nicholas_saunders @thetechtutor @aral

There is no point to this unless you're trying to say that the state of Israel could not have done even a single thing differently, it was what we're seeing now or nothing, and obviously that's nonsense.

@thetechtutor @nicholas_saunders @aral

>>I’m legit curious how often you post these same questions and concerns about #hamas #china #russia #iran and other radical & militarized nations?<<

What questions? You and nicholas have been asking all the questions. This thread was in response to a post about Israel, that's why we're discussing concerns about Israel here.

Your desperation is showing and your trolling flow chart has led you into a dead end.

All to defend the murder of children and innocent civilians. You know in the end you can't do that so you have to discredit me somehow and deflect.

My timeline is not hidden, you can easily see for yourself. Start with my pinned toots, maybe you'll learn something.

@nicholas_saunders @thetechtutor @aral

The Al Aqsa Flood itself was immoral.

There you go, happy?

It was also a direct consequence of actions by the state of Israel.

This does not mean I condone it, excuse it or support it at all, but I recognize it as a link in a chain of events that should not have been unexpected.

But two wrongs don't make a right. The ends do not justify the means (and I don't even agree with the supposed ends anyway).

@nicholas_saunders @thetechtutor @aral

I already told you my moral standards don't recognize rule of law so I can't answer in regards to "legally".

Morally I reject states so there is nothing a state could do militarily that I would consider moral.

Obviously this is an unrealistic expectation for an existing state, especially a ethno-nationalist one. But the horrifically high number of civilian casualties and physical destruction in this situation make it obvious that there was a huge spectrum of possibilities. One less bomb could have been dropped. Or no bombs at all.

There are virtually infinite possibilities that could have resulted in fewer casualties and less destruction.

But the state of Israel has deliberately chosen to punish Palestinians collectively. If they are minimizing civilian casualties then I can't even imagine what an "unrestrained" state of Israel would look like!

I can only conclude that as long as they don't use nuclear weapons we're supposed to respect their civility and western liberal values 🤷♂️

@nicholas_saunders @thetechtutor @aral

FFS, of course Hamas had agency. Just like the state of Israel has agency.

@nicholas_saunders @thetechtutor @aral

Are you seriously arguing that the al aqsa flood occurred in a vacuum, arising out of nowhere, completely random and arbitrary?

The fact that Hamas reacted to conditions that the state of Israel created or enabled does not mean Hamas has no culpability for the decisions made about how to react.

You're really scraping the bottom of the barrel now with your caricature of logic.

@nicholas_saunders @thetechtutor @aral

That's not my philosophy nor is it what I said at all, in fact I explicitly said otherwise, did you read and understand my entire post? Your characterization seems in very bad faith.

The fact that the Hamas action was in response to pre-existing circumstances in no way absolves them from moral responsibility any more than the state of Isreal is absolved of moral responsibility for atrocities it commits in reaction to Hamas' actions.

@nicholas_saunders @thetechtutor @aral

I did not say Israel dictated the form taken by those actions.

You desperation to defend the murder of children is driving you to absurd conclusions and very bad faith silliness. I'm going out in the world now, catch you later maybe.

@nicholas_saunders @thetechtutor @aral

https://kolektiva.social/@RD4Anarchy/111868661837718774

@thetechtutor @nicholas_saunders @aral

Know their names:

https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2024/israel-war-on-gaza-10000-children-killed/

@nicholas_saunders @thetechtutor @aral

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/gaza-palestinian-israel-white-flag-shot-dead-killed-rcna135419

@nicholas_saunders @thetechtutor @aral

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/26/middleeast/hala-khreis-white-flag-shooting-gaza-cmd-intl/index.html

@nicholas_saunders @thetechtutor @aral

>>You've simply chosen to not answer my basic question...<<

I answered it multiple times. I even boosted your question 🤷♂️

>>...you throw insults my way...<<

I did? I mean I know I can be insulting sometimes, and I do swear a lot, but When did I insult you?

@nicholas_saunders @thetechtutor @aral

Weird that you make this about me, especially after skipping over 10,000 killed children, and videos of cold-blooded murders of civilians with white flags, on your way to do it.

@MartyFouts @MisuseCase @SallyStrange @CorvidCrone @AdrianRiskin

None of those states removed capitalism.

"Private ownership" of capital is a red herring, not an essential characteristic of capitalism (I don't give a fuck what any dictionary says).

Has any state eliminated capital? Has any state been able to extricate itself from the global system of capitalism?
Has any state even eliminated wage labor?

Nope. They all serve capital.

@violetmadder @MartyFouts @MisuseCase @SallyStrange @CorvidCrone @AdrianRiskin

I highly recommend this book:

"State Capitalism: The Wages System Under New Management" by Adam Buick and John Crump

I found it very helpful not just for clarifying this particular idea but also for understanding of capitalism in general.

Free download:
https://files.libcom.org/files/State%20Capitalism.pdf

Here's the definition of capitalism that they work with:

...apart from being a class society, capitalism
has the following six essential characteristics:
1. Generalised commodity production, nearly all wealth being produced for sale on a market.
2. The investment of capital in production with a view to obtaining a monetary profit.
3. The exploitation of wage labour, the source of profit being the unpaid labour of the producers.
4. The regulation of production by the market via a competitive
struggle for profits.
5. The accumulation of capital out of profits, leading to the expansion and development of the forces of production.
6. A single world economy.

They convincingly show that capital still runs things whether it is controlled by private individuals or state officials.

Enclosure works with state or "public" property just as well as private property.

@TruthSandwich @argumento @NoFlexZone @Outpatientzero @HistoPol @Lastresponder @palestine

I thought you had muted me once upon a time so I didn't reply to this, but I see you liking and even boosting something I posted today so here I am to tell you that this is pure bullshit. No state has any "right to exist", fuck them all.

Maybe you should take a closer look at what you liked and boosted from me, because any seeming agreement between us is purely superficial.

@neonsnake @HeavenlyPossum @passenger @AdrianRiskin @magitweeter @whatzaname @violetmadder @ciggysmokebringer @gnutelephony @ThatWeltschmerz @FrenchPanda @glitzersachen

Oh yeah, total troll <spits!>

https://mastodon.social/@AlexanderKingsbury/111658672321388303

No more nice from me.