"The Biden administration once again bypasses Congress on an emergency weapons sale to Israel".
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Last Responder (lastresponder@mstdn.social)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jan-2024 07:38:23 JST 
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HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jan-2024 07:55:10 JST 
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I only wished that #Biden would use similar powers for the geopolitically even more Import #WarInUkraine.
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HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jan-2024 07:57:14 JST
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Via CNN:
"US officials are viewing the next few weeks as a critical period that will demonstrate #Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin #Netanyahu’s willingness to move to a lower-intensity phase of going after #Hamas in #Gaza."
"The topic of the war’s trajectory as been at the center of conversations between #American and Israeli officials, including a lengthy phone call between President Joe #Biden and #Netanyahu...
https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-01-01-24/index.html
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...last week that officials described as very direct and at times strained."
"#Israel's announcement that it starting to draw down its number of troops in #Gaza shows signs of the country's gradual shift to a lower-intensity phase of its war, a senior #UnitedStates official said Monday."
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 09:03:14 JST 
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@Outpatientzero @HistoPol @Lastresponder @palestine
Biden is right to demand that Israel reduce collateral damage. Israel is right to target Hamas terrorists.
The #GenocideJoe hashtag thing is a lie.
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Outpatientzero 🍉 (outpatientzero@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 09:03:16 JST 
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@HistoPol @Lastresponder @palestine US officials are hoping that Israel will pretend to lower the intensity of their murder of civilians to take the pressure off #GenocideJoe
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 09:21:40 JST
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@Darryl @mapachin @palestine @NoFlexZone @HistoPol @sibrosan @Outpatientzero
There's the entire Negev, which is sparsely populated and connects Gaza with the WB.
A one-state solution is a nonstarter because neither side is willing to coexist in a single state with the other. There is too much bad blood and spilled blood.
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Darryl 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 ⸸ (darryl@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 09:21:41 JST 
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@TruthSandwich @mapachin @palestine @NoFlexZone @HistoPol @sibrosan @Outpatientzero
I think at this point we are past a two state solution. There is no viable geography left from which to create it. We need a one state solution with full right of return for all palestinians within a fully democratic and secular government.
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 09:21:42 JST
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@mapachin @palestine @NoFlexZone @HistoPol @sibrosan @Outpatientzero
Israel's current government does not want peace. Gaza's doesn't, either. They each see a future where the other is wiped out and the entire area is theirs. There will be no peace until Likud and Hamas lose power.
Once they're gone, we can try again for a two-state solution.
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🍉 estoy desesperada grabando acá con jota 🍉 (mapachin@novo-atlantis.null.media)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 09:21:44 JST 
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@TruthSandwich @palestine @NoFlexZone @HistoPol @sibrosan @Outpatientzero
look everyone in this thread has already explained all of this stuff to you. please look into the details of these proposals and why they were rejected and why the talks did not resume. if Israel really wanted peace, they would be able to make a deal.
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 09:21:45 JST
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@mapachin @palestine @NoFlexZone @HistoPol @sibrosan @Outpatientzero
Israel has in the past attempted to broker a two-state solution. The Palestinians rejected each version, just as they rejected the original British plan.
Israel does not have all the power. It has very limited power and there are consequences to using any of it.
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🍉 estoy desesperada grabando acá con jota 🍉 (mapachin@novo-atlantis.null.media)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 09:21:46 JST
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 09:21:47 JST
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@mapachin @palestine @NoFlexZone @HistoPol @sibrosan @Outpatientzero
As I pointed out in a parallel thread, there is no willingness on either part to coexist within the same borders.
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 09:21:49 JST
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@mapachin @palestine @NoFlexZone @HistoPol @sibrosan @Outpatientzero
Uh-huh, and where do the Israelis go under your plan?
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🍉 estoy desesperada grabando acá con jota 🍉 (mapachin@novo-atlantis.null.media)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 09:21:49 JST
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@TruthSandwich @palestine @NoFlexZone @HistoPol @sibrosan @Outpatientzero
they stay where they are, why would they be displaced? that’s a war crime. just like with the landback discussion, nobody is saying that the settlers have to be displaced or ethnically cleansed, they just have to accept equality for all under the law.
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🍉 estoy desesperada grabando acá con jota 🍉 (mapachin@novo-atlantis.null.media)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 09:21:50 JST
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@TruthSandwich @sibrosan @NoFlexZone @Outpatientzero @HistoPol @palestine
that's easy, Israel can dismantle their apartheid state. grant reparations to the people they harmed and displaced, and make a genuine effort to repair the damage their far-right government has done. (which is functionally the same as dismantling the modern state of Israel, but maybe sounds less scary. this is similar to what landback and reparations would mean in the US, and colonizers tend to take it as a threat. as if making actual peace and genocide are the same thing.) -
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 09:21:51 JST
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@sibrosan @NoFlexZone @Outpatientzero @HistoPol @Lastresponder @palestine
Feel free to offer a non-genocidal alternative and maybe I'll take that claim seriously.
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 09:21:52 JST
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@sibrosan @NoFlexZone @Outpatientzero @HistoPol @Lastresponder @palestine
Bluntly, the way that Hamas wants to get rid of the state of Israel is by killing its people. It's not offering to relocate them to sunny Florida at its own expense...
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Sibrosan (sibrosan@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 09:21:52 JST 
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@TruthSandwich @NoFlexZone @Outpatientzero @HistoPol @Lastresponder @palestine
> the way that Hamas wants to get rid of the state of Israel is by killing its people. <
Saying Israel has no right to exist does not imply you're Hamas.
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Sibrosan (sibrosan@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 09:21:53 JST
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@TruthSandwich @argumento@hispagatos.space @NoFlexZone @Outpatientzero @HistoPol @Lastresponder @palestine
I'm not so sure whether that is correct, since Israel is a state, not a people.
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 09:21:54 JST
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@argumento @NoFlexZone @Outpatientzero @HistoPol @Lastresponder @palestine
Saying Israel has no right to exist is calling for genocide.
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argumento :socialiststar: (argumento@hispagatos.space)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 09:21:55 JST 
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@TruthSandwich @NoFlexZone @Outpatientzero @HistoPol @Lastresponder @palestine calling for an end to ethnic cleansing and genocide is not the same as calling for genocide, you dumb dumb. Israel came to be by means of a murderous ethnic cleansing, research what the Nakba was. Calling for an end to an Apartheid State is not the same as calling for the murder of the inhabitants of said State, it means calling for the end of a political body.
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 09:21:56 JST
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@NoFlexZone @Outpatientzero @HistoPol @Lastresponder @palestine
Saying that Israel doesn't have a right to exist is literally a call for genocide against Israelis.
Since you're pro-genocide, you don't get to complain when Gazans die because of the Hamas massacre.
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DieMadColonizer (noflexzone@blacktwitter.io)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 09:21:57 JST 
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HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 18:11:36 JST
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You are right that this wording is cold-blooded and might need to be rephrased.
However:
(S)he did not attack you.
No insults in my timeline!
This gets you blocked.@TruthSandwich @dung_eater @palestine @NoFlexZone @argumento@hispagatos.space @Lastresponder @Outpatientzero
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Leth (lethargilistic@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 18:11:37 JST 
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@TruthSandwich @dung_eater @palestine @NoFlexZone @argumento @HistoPol @Lastresponder @Outpatientzero "This war has nothing to do with Palestinians except that they're doing the dying."
OK, you colonist fuck. You've lost any respect that I may have had left for you.
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Leth (lethargilistic@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 18:11:38 JST
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@TruthSandwich @dung_eater @palestine @NoFlexZone @argumento @HistoPol @Lastresponder @Outpatientzero Matey, Hamas is bad. I'm not sure anyone in this thread praised them or denied that. They're fundamentalists who impose upon Palestinians. They have centralized and held onto power within their organization for like 20-30 years. It's not common for anarchists to support them, and I certainly don't.
Neither collective punishment or ethnic cleansing are reasonable answers, and they wouldn't be reasonable for any other country either. Those alone are war crimes, if you want to get international.
However, this war isn't about revenge for those people. Those people are a pretext. If the Israelis were really interested in ending this conflict and seeking a mutual peace, there are all kinds of oppressive things that they could just stop doing. Respect the Gazan border. Stop treating Palestinians as second-class (non-)people. Even now, they could just stop the conflict and retreat, saying 20K was enough. If they REALLY want to do more violence, they might force an election for a new government or something.
But Israel chose to carry out an ethnic cleansing campaign (again!) because they're a colonial state founded with the goal of taking the land. If you can't even acknowledge that, then you don't know enough about this political situation to comment on it, to be frank.
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 18:11:38 JST
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@lethargilistic @dung_eater @palestine @NoFlexZone @argumento @HistoPol @Lastresponder @Outpatientzero
This war has nothing to do with Palestinians, except that they're doing the dying. Hamas may be the nominal government of Gaza, but they don't care at all about the Gazans.
Hamas works for Iran, just like their fellow Hezbollah and Houthi terrorists, and they're all coming after Israel all at once.
This is conveniently distracting the West from the situation in Ukraine and providing fuel for the lunatic left in the USA to go after Biden. And once Trump is in place, Ukraine will quickly fall and Israel will be next.
If you can't zoom out and see the big picture, you can't understand why people are dying in Gaza. And if you let ridiculous ideologies, like anarchism, cloud your vision, all the worse.
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 18:11:41 JST
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@lethargilistic @dung_eater @palestine @NoFlexZone @argumento @HistoPol @Lastresponder @Outpatientzero
Regardless of who the PM was, the Oct. 7th massacre would have had its intended effect.
Anyone would have reacted with retaliation, and given how Hamas is intermixed, the collateral damage would have been nearly as high.
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Leth (lethargilistic@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 18:11:41 JST
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@TruthSandwich @dung_eater @palestine @NoFlexZone @argumento @HistoPol @Lastresponder @Outpatientzero You've really got to relax this assumption that any country would react this way. Not every country would use white phosphorous. Not every country would be using AI weaponry to absolve themselves of culpability for collateral killings. Not every country would be floating the idea of using nuclear weapons.
I don't even like countries (none of them have a right to exist and they should not), but I think a good number of them are a bit above indiscriminate violence against one of the most oppressed people in the world. For any reason. Like half of the Gazan population is literal children, mate. And the number of people killed by the IDF in the *West Bank* in 2023 TRIPLED the previous record set in *checks notes* 2022.
After a war has begun, fine. Anything's on the table because the idea that countries discipline their militaries is a myth. But before the war? It's definitely a Choice.
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 18:11:41 JST
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@lethargilistic @dung_eater @palestine @NoFlexZone @argumento @HistoPol @Lastresponder @Outpatientzero
Hamas broke the ceasefire with a massacre. They killed about 1,200 people, explicitly targeting civilians, including infants and elderly. They beat and raped and kidnapped. They're still holding hostages, who are presumably being beaten and raped.
No country in the world would have just let this slide. You can spout anarchist nonsense. You can complain about the exact methods used in the retaliation. You can try to blame everyone but Hamas for the war they intentionally started.
But you can't pretend that this was ever going to end any other way. Hamas got the war they demanded and all the civilian casualties in Gaza that they could have hoped for. Mission accomplished.
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Leth (lethargilistic@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 18:11:42 JST
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@TruthSandwich @dung_eater @palestine @NoFlexZone @argumento @HistoPol @Lastresponder @Outpatientzero Just chiming in to say that no one Israeli politician (even Netanyahu) caused this. This would likely be happening even if he had lost the election because Israel is a colonial ethno-state and the logic of its existence requires it to maintain a genocidal position of dominance. https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/netanyahu-is-the-problem/
But, besides that, a prime motivator for the ever-increasing right-wing politics in Israel is literally that Israel has been allowing Israelis to force Palestinians out of their homes for years. Just taking over the property with either the covert or overt support of the IDF.. At a purely economic level, it is in the average Israeli person's interest to maintain this kind of violence because someone else's blood is the cheapest way to buy land. It's no surprise that it's trivial to find Israeli sources talking about Palestinians like they're not people. If the people stealing their land considered them people, they might have qualms about stealing the land.
Oh and, even outside of confrontations with Hamas, Israel is a world leader in weapons design. How do they test those designs? By using them on Palestinians. See, for example, the AI turrets designed to identify and shoot Palestinians with less-lethal weapons. See also their yeyars of using of fully-AI drones for war, including during the ongoing conflict. You want to talk about how they need to be better about reducing casualties? They could start with stopping firing self-piloting rockets into Gaza indiscriminately; does it SOUND reasonable that these rockets could reliably choose to target a Hamas militant instead of a civilian?
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 18:11:43 JST
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@dung_eater @palestine @NoFlexZone @argumento @HistoPol @Lastresponder @Outpatientzero
If it wasn't Bibi, Israel might make a reasonable effort to minimize collateral damage. It does not appear to be doing so. Then again, it's not clear that it would help much, because of that intermixing and human shield strategy.
On top of that, failing to avoid collateral damage is still not the same as Hamas' policy of targeting noncombatants.
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gregor samsa (dung_eater@fedi.bapril.pl)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 18:11:54 JST 
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@TruthSandwich Okay. And I do not say no to any of that. But tell me, how does that justify Israeli murder of 20k civilians?
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 18:11:55 JST
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@dung_eater @palestine @NoFlexZone @argumento @HistoPol @Lastresponder @Outpatientzero
Hamas couldn't care less about the Palestinians it claims to represent. That's the point.
They are the de facto government, as illegitimate as they are, and they use Gaza freely as their base of operations. So when they commit a massacre, Gaza is targeted.
They also commit various additional war crimes by intermixing military and civilian buildings, using Gazans as human shields.
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gregor samsa (dung_eater@fedi.bapril.pl)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 18:11:56 JST
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@TruthSandwich Please tell me, what does the fact they are an official Palestinian government bring to the table? Because for me, it’s absolutely worthless. They are as legitimate as Putin, Lukashenko or the Taliban. Or perhaps you’re one of these people who think that they are absolutely representative of Palestinian cause?
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 18:11:57 JST
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@dung_eater @palestine @NoFlexZone @argumento @HistoPol @Lastresponder @Outpatientzero
To remind you, nobody forced Hamas to break the ceasefire with a massacre. They chose to do it for the sole purpose of triggering a counterattack.
So if you're angry at someone for the Gazan deaths, be angry at Hamas, the Iranian terrorists who are their nominal government.
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 18:11:58 JST
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@dung_eater @palestine @NoFlexZone @argumento @HistoPol @Lastresponder @Outpatientzero
Then argue for the removal of Likud from power and for the state to be neutral wrt Judaism.
Do not argue that retaliating against Hamas is "genocide" or that Hamas is justified in committing genocide (as @NoFlexZone just did).
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gregor samsa (dung_eater@fedi.bapril.pl)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 18:11:58 JST
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@TruthSandwich I mean, Israel has killed more than 20 thousands of civilians. I find this absolutely unacceptable. If this is okay, so was the attack of Oct. 7. And I don’t think we should go that way.
But yeah, I will totally call that genocide. They have indiscriminately murdered thousands of innocent people without second thought. Perhaps Hamas would commit such atrocities, too. But it lacks the capacity to. On the other hand, Israel is absolutely capable of dealing death on unprecedented scale without any backlash and so it does.
Do not write genocide in quotes, it absolutely is. Because it’s hardly a retaliation against Hamas. It’s just state mandated terror.
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 18:12:00 JST
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@dung_eater @palestine @NoFlexZone @argumento @HistoPol @Lastresponder @Outpatientzero
You can oppose Israel being an ethnostate without opposing its existence as a state. (Ask me how I know.)
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gregor samsa (dung_eater@fedi.bapril.pl)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 18:12:00 JST
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@TruthSandwich But it’s existence in a current form is the leading source of state coercion and apartheid, not even mentioning the bloody upbringing that was Nakbah.
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gregor samsa (dung_eater@fedi.bapril.pl)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 18:12:01 JST
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@TruthSandwich to be perfectly honest, the only reason Israelis right to existence is brought up lately is to counter the voices calling for ceasefire and stopping the genocide. That should tell us something about it’s legitimacy.
That aside, I can loathe the Ethnostate of Zion without hating on Jews.
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LukefromDC (lukefromdc@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 18:13:48 JST 
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@dung_eater @palestine @NoFlexZone @argumento @HistoPol @Lastresponder @Outpatientzero @TruthSandwich
I know plenty of Jewish folks who have thrown down as hard as anyone in the U$ against this horrific genocide. They know Fascism when they see it and are doing something about it. In the first three weeks after this started, I was in DC. I was there as Jewish Voice for Peace and IfNotNow blockaded the White House and beseiged a Capitol office building while holding a CD inside. It was also those two groups that went after the DNC a few weeks after I returned to FL, and faced so much police aggression for doing so.
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HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 03:37:42 JST
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"are we talking of the people gunned down by the IOF, for which blame was put unto Hamas, now again? "
Are you saying that the more than 1000 Israelis that were butchered by #Hamas terrorists in October were victims of IDF, by friendly fire, so to speak?!? 🥸
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 03:37:43 JST
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@RD4Anarchy @argumento @NoFlexZone @Outpatientzero @HistoPol @Lastresponder @palestine
Saying that Israel has no right to exist is indistinguishable from calling for Israeli genocide.
The people Hamas slaughtered, over a thousand of them, had a right to live that the terrorists took from them.
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🐙 Compañero Allende 🇵🇸 (morpheo@kolektiva.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 03:37:43 JST 
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are we talking of the people gunned down by the IOF, for which blame was put unto Hamas, now again?@RD4Anarchy @argumento @NoFlexZone @Outpatientzero @HistoPol @Lastresponder @palestine
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RD (rd4anarchy@kolektiva.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 03:37:45 JST 
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@TruthSandwich @argumento @NoFlexZone @Outpatientzero @HistoPol @Lastresponder @palestine
I thought you had muted me once upon a time so I didn't reply to this, but I see you liking and even boosting something I posted today so here I am to tell you that this is pure bullshit. No state has any "right to exist", fuck them all.
Maybe you should take a closer look at what you liked and boosted from me, because any seeming agreement between us is purely superficial.
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HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 04:26:40 JST
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This is true but not quite correct.
I listened to a podcast by @afelia some time ago. The concept of being a #Jew is 3 dimensional and complex and not limited to ethnicity. (I can't reproduce it correctly, though.)"It's not an ethnic identity like, say "Jews" or "Arabs" or "Tamil" or "Uygur"."
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donAlvar_es :vericol: (donalvar@col.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 04:26:46 JST 
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@TruthSandwich @argumento @NoFlexZone @Outpatientzero @HistoPol @Lastresponder @palestine Israel is a state, and an artificial one at that. It's not an ethnic identity like, say "Jews" or "Arabs" or "Tamil" or "Uygur".
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HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 04:59:27 JST
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Yes, and now.
I once took a deep dive going back 1000s of years (even vefore Ramses II) to see who really had a claim to the "Holy Land," before it was thus named.
It was always a contested region and a region of migrants from all directions.So, yes, "a settler state" in this meaning.
After WWII, the UN, representing all countries decided on the creation of the state...@afelia @TruthSandwich @NoFlexZone @Outpatientzero @Lastresponder @palestine
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donAlvar_es :vericol: (donalvar@col.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 04:59:29 JST
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@HistoPol @afelia @TruthSandwich @NoFlexZone @Outpatientzero @Lastresponder @palestine True. The concept of "Jew" has complex religious and historical aspects to it. but it is still true that Israel is just a settler state.
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HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 05:00:29 JST
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...of #Israel. Hardly ever has a country had a sounder legal basis, I'd say.
The same holds true for the creation of a Palestinian state. This is still lacking more than half a century later. It is this imbalance and injustice that will lead to interminable strife in the region. To overcome it, leaders and men in the field will eventually face their responsibility for their #WarCrimes. ...
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HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 05:01:15 JST
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...Until then, the two ethnicities will continue to decimate each other, "an eye for an eye," which is, sadly, very #Abrahamic.
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 06:55:48 JST
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@HistoPol @donAlvar @afelia @NoFlexZone @Outpatientzero @Lastresponder @palestine
The original plan called for two states. This should be our goal.
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HistoPol (#HP) 🥥 🌴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 06:56:01 JST
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Yes.
@donAlvar @afelia @NoFlexZone @Outpatientzero @Lastresponder @palestine
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donAlvar_es :vericol: (donalvar@col.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 16:07:13 JST
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@TruthSandwich @HistoPol @afelia @NoFlexZone @Outpatientzero @Lastresponder @palestine A two-state solution requires keeping people like Netanyahu and Hamas away from power. An (apparently unimaginable) alternative to Netanyahu would prop up actors that would accept two states instead of sabotaging them in favour of Hamas. Psychopaths calling for ethnic cleansing are a tiny minority on both sides, but have both been given a disproportionate power by foreign economic and political interests.
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GNU Too (gnu2@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 16:14:33 JST 
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@TruthSandwich how about no states -
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 23:54:57 JST
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Do you suggest we nuke the entire area? Or is this some anarchist nonsense?
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GNU Too (gnu2@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 04:32:46 JST
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@TruthSandwich of those two options, "anarchist nonsense" is certainly closer to what I'm talking about. I believe a libertarian society is inevitable. Of all the world where statism has failed it seems most clear in the Holy Land. For years I have believed that when the people wake-up the Holy Land would be the jumping off point for this inevitable evolution in humankind, and the current wars and rumors of wars make that only moreso. #Nationalism is the single most dangerous force in the world today. -
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Truth Sandwich 🥪🇺🇸😷 (truthsandwich@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 04:33:57 JST
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Yeah, no, anarchism, whether the full version or watered-down libertarian ones, would lead to hell on Earth.
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GNU Too (gnu2@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 04:35:03 JST
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@TruthSandwich "we" should not bomb anyone, let alone "nuke the entire area." I know my viewpoint is often distorted due to how many years I have spent in libertarian spaces, but that anyone would think that is more reasonable than respecting individual rights is flabbergasting. -
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GNU Too (gnu2@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 04:40:21 JST
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@TruthSandwich LOL
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