@FearlessJuan 1. When has voting for "the lesser evil" worked? 2. Why do you think Harris would have stopped funding genocide, what statements or policies positions led you to that conclusion?
@FearlessJuan@mondoweiss@palestine@israel setting that aside for one moment; When has voting for the "lesser evil" historically ever achieved a desired political outcome? (Restating my first question.)
@DMX there are very few things more annoying than having to teach a boomer lib about how the US fomented (fill in the blank South Am/Central Am fascist Coup) which happened during their lifetime, and long before mine.
But you have to when you tell them things like "The US is the world's biggest exporter of fascism, what do you mean its a positive force for good" because they start to froth at the mouth.
DemSocs using the 'warnings' of the Weimar Republic to whip votes, or otherwise vote scold for Harris is the most snake in the grass, horseshit.
It reflects the "fascism as core contradiction" line of many "leftists", (most loudly "anarchists") go for/fall for and the "point of production is/was in Europe" that many MLs go for, which is wrong as a matter of historical materialist analysis (read: reality). 1/4
Tech is politics. Every thing about tech is political. We all need to see it, even if you don't understand it.
We have to be challenged and learn from things we do not understand every day. We have to engage in active ideological struggle (read learning) every day.
When Alyssa Azar is on here talking about how the IOF is weaponizing the most used chat app in the world, and regular text messages and phone calls to wage a psychological terror campaign against Arab civilians I'm sure its clear how Tech is Politics then,
But also, when people are talking about how C/C++ Devs and Rusr Devs are fighting over the need for memory safe code that is also politics, I don't code (yet) and sometimes don't know what they're on about, but then I search and learn...
Cuz I have to, this shit will determine how vulnerable the damn tech will be in the short/medium term future. That matters for a bunch of reasons.
Tech posting is critically needed, and we need to do more to help people understand the info being communicated, but also we need to not feel animosity toward and/or discount the importance of seeing information/conversation we don't understand.
This is exactly what I mean, the vacuous, empty headded liberal response to a material question that should have an answer, OR drive one to push the politicians they like to do better
Instead, like the reactionaries they are, the don't just entrench themselves against the communities they claim to support, but also get real weird with their petty. Why blocc and DM me? Loser behavior, these people won't "save" you from facism, they are the fascists
Thoroughly unimpressed with the dogshit takes on the DNC. The liberals of mastodon are gleefully deluded, genocidal maniacs, much like the conservatives they claim to be opposed to. And they think their your friend and ally or some shit.
Are we on Lemmy yet? The reddit post format they have over there is kinda nice, and it exists on the outter reaches of the fediverse low key. Might be a nicer place than 👀this raggedy mf👀
@AnthonyJK@julieofthespirits@AnarchoNinaAnalyzes libs say "hey now we never like them dirty slurs anyway we can, see we can control them (to death😉) just chose us it's so messssy to have bloodletting in the street that's the colonial state's job - to do the control (genocide😉) in an orderly fashion so you can still go to brunch, just have some mimosas and relaaax" 4/4
@AnthonyJK@julieofthespirits@AnarchoNinaAnalyzes and when that didnt work, (mid-20th late 20th century on) liberalism either became more eliminationist rhetorically, in real terms; sided with conservatives in their genocidal projects; or both
Not a deal with "enlightened" conservatives, the never existed, they were able to convince conservatives, and the colonizer writ large that genocide by assimilation would be more comfortable for them, when they haven't been able to deliver 3/4
@AnthonyJK@julieofthespirits@AnarchoNinaAnalyzes in preventing socialist revolution in the US. I'd say if there was a compromise it was there, and it was less compromise with conservatives, than it was their general marginalization after so many Ls taken.
And that liberalism was able to win the colonizer masses & ruling classes alike (conservatives and liberals alike) by meeting material needs, improving material conditions, on the baccs of the colonized, at every turn 2/4
I don't think its merely a rivalry, I think the relationship of liberals as assimilationists and conservatives as elinationists represents a dialectical identity, a unity of opposites among the colonizer class.
The Great Depression era expansion of the US state to regulate capital & provide jobs and benefits represented liberalism doing its best work (to @julieofthespirits 's point) 1/4
For this to be correct do you hold that conservatives represent a threat to captialism? That the assimilated "good ones" will stand with liberals against the threat conservatives pose to capitalism?
That liberals don't find an alliegance with conservatives sufficient to combat "the spectre of socialism"?
@AnthonyJK@julieofthespirits@AnarchoNinaAnalyzes I don't disagree with your framing of how the liberal moves, I think you have to place more emphasis on the material (economic) basis of this positioning to fully grasp how liberalism is fundamentally in unity with conservatism despite their best wailing to the contrary in maintaining "control" as @AnarchoNinaAnalyzes described it in the way colonized peoples (are allowed to) live (to them, us living means we have to serve our colonizers)
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