@AnthonyJK @julieofthespirits @AnarchoNinaAnalyzes I don't disagree with your framing of how the liberal moves, I think you have to place more emphasis on the material (economic) basis of this positioning to fully grasp how liberalism is fundamentally in unity with conservatism despite their best wailing to the contrary in maintaining "control" as @AnarchoNinaAnalyzes described it in the way colonized peoples (are allowed to) live (to them, us living means we have to serve our colonizers)