Notices by FinchHaven (finchhaven@sfba.social), page 2

@dansup

Oh yeah, I get it now

If we're not hard-core coder bros, we're just consumers and we get to sit down and shut up and just keep consuming what ever's fed us

Got it

And please: by all means, keep waiting

@pixelfed

@dansup

Hand-curated by you

Interesting

Interesting

And you are on Mastodon dot Social

Interesting

Interesting

The puzzle pieces continue to fit together

cc @pixelfed

@dansup

Yeah, well, just saw the damnedest thing scroll by

@pixelfed is now pushing Zuckerberg as the most-followed Fediverse account, with Mosseri as third, here:

"Popular Fediverse Accounts

The most popular accounts across the fediverse"

https://fedidb.org/popular-fediverse-accounts

which seems to be brand new

Is FediDB actually run by Gargron?

May have to re-evaluate how seriously I take that data...

@0xjessel

So your cloned post here on Mastodon is about 12 minutes old as I type this

Will my reply propagate back over to your original Threads post?

Otherwise there is *no* "federation" -- no matter how many times you use the word

Ready?

And...

...post

@GossiTheDog

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that he says this quickly, in passing, in the video

It's the usage of "federated" that digs

Posts from Threads -- (for the few that are even allowed, my List is up to 16 I think) are "federated" onto Mastodon only in the sense that they are cloned images

They aren't live in any "federated" sense

cc @pcottle

@GossiTheDog

I replied to his "federated" Threads post this morning:

"@pcottle

I see the clone of your original post from #Threads on my #Mastodon instance

Do you see my reply to your original post from Threads back over on Threads?

Betting you don't

Replies to Threads posts (those selected few that are allowed to clone their posts to Mastodon) never propagate back over to the original on Threads"

At 5:05 pm PDT he still hasn't seen it or replied, and my reply hasn't propagated back over to his original post on Threads

@forteller

Final call, because yes, you don't understand this

""why can't the standard/default Mastodon installation/UI/UX ootb ... do it?", is that better?"

The standard "standard/default Mastodon installation/UI/UX" is a software distribution

It does *not* render itself

It must be rendered through some sort of user interface, whether that's a web browser (Firefox) a web browser add-on (Phanpy) or an independent app, most likely running on a phone

To make a poor example, it's like asking "why can't my single-overhead cam 2.0 liter gas engine take me anywhere"?

Because it has to be installed in an "app" -- in this case, a car

@forteller

"Mastodon" is not an app

It's a software distribution

You're talking web browser (an app) behavior versus Phanpy (an app) behavior

You need an app of some sort to view anything running Mastodon

One of the biggest unspoken issues is that each app (seemingly) has an entirely different feature set specific only to itself

Talk to our young Gargron about that

He's the boss

So there is no "Mastodon itself"

@forteller

Let's parse this:

"clicking on a link to a post on another #Fediverse instance"

"opens the link in a new tab"

"instead of opening the post in my instance"

You click on a link to a post that's not on the instance you're homed on

Your web browser (right?) opens the link in a new tab

The new tab contains content that is on a different instance than yours

Have I got this right?

Sounds like everything is working exactly as it's supposed to

It has nothing to do with the "maturity" of Mastodon

It has to do with how http links to other web sites than the one you're immediately looking at really work

Been that way for decades

Sorry

@BenjaminBuse

#Newsmast is one of the more aggressive/blatant #Mastodon / #Fediverse content scrapers/aggregators I've yet seen

As you quote, they're quite pleased with themselves and are very busy growing by leaps and bounds daily

Oh

They are a registered (UK I believe) charity/non-profit and would *love* your donation too

[pukes]

@amgine

Yeah, Newsmast is a content aggregator

Search "newsmast" and look at the profiles to see what they cover

They sucked one of my posts into one of their feeds and published it strictly on the basis of the hashtag I'd used

I've since blocked them all

#Fediverse #Newsmast

@Kierkegaanks

Where do the #Youtube links originate from?

Are they in your posts, or whose, from where?

A whole lot of people are (rightly IMO) flipping out about the whole #Bluesky bridging issue, but let me tell you there are other content scrapers at work lately

Search 'Newsmast' and look at the profiles

They're a content aggregator scraping hashtags and grouping them into List "communities" under their own #Newsmast branding

@tchambers

Take a look here:

https://mastodon.tinynews.org/@mastodon_admin_yqqwe/followers

At my last refresh, 919 Followers on Mastodon instances, all with the string 'yqqwe' as the profile name

Been looking into this all day

One major clue: the top-level domain tinynews.org is a Chinese news aggregator

Seen one post so far that this (or some part of this) may be a Chinese opp

@jrconlin

@austin

And to summarize, the core problem is that all the #BigFediverse / #TheFediverseCantBeTooBig crowd won't realize that "too big" is exactly why people left the Other Place(tm)

@feld

"The admin of any large fedi instance has the same power"

The admin of any large fedi instance didn't write an app specifically to do this

Big difference

This is a one-off

@panos

My current boilerplate on the issue:

The entire #Bluesky <--> #Fediverse #Bridge issue can be distilled down to:

1) Bryan writes a Bluesky <--> Fediverse bridge application

2) Bryan has total administrative control over said bridge application

3) Bryan effectively has a man-in-the-middle viewport into all bi-directional traffic through his bridge - don't try to claim this isn't true

4) What does Bryan do with the participant IDs and traffic content he can view?

5) Is there any notice or consent involved other than opt-in re: Bryan's monitoring and potentially using said bridge traffic?

6) Is there any option to opt-out for --> third parties <-- who are participating in a public Mastodon conversation *they* believe is on one end only and do not want to be bridged over to the opposite side of Bryan's bridge?

This has boiled over on the Bluesky #Github (where it's the most recent post in a *very* long thread):

"Interoperability with Mastodon/ActivityPub #1716"

Here: https://github.com/bluesky-social/atproto/discussions/1716

@snarfed.org

Opt-in only, or I #DomainBlock

What is that again?

bsky.brid.gy?

So noted...

I want *nothing* to do with #Bluesky

#NoBridge has been added to my profile

cc @activitypubblueskybridge @fedidevs @fediversenews@venera.social

@philip

"I can’t speak for Evan, but that’s not how I interpret the question"

I was responding to his answer, not to the poll or its results:

"I am strongly positive"

cc @evan

@evan

So

#Google Nest or #Amazon Ring or Alexa but running #Mastodon or something?

Or something?

For all that is sacred and holy, let it be and stop with it

A bigger Fediverse is *not* a better #Fediverse

Why do you want to make the entire Fediverse back into what we are all trying to get away from?

@mima

Markdown

So is this the same sort of "markdown" that all the young glowey eyed tech bros were all hot-and-heavy about having their distro or their apps support, and who got all pissy and cranky against anyone who said maybe they didn't really *need* markdown just to post to the #Fediverse?

That #Markdown?

Oh…

Interesting