Notices by FinchHaven sfba (finchhaven@sfba.social), page 2

@tokyo_0

I *do* understand what can be *done* with this

Which you don't seem to care about

Again, how does anyone opt-out of your little toy?

@tokyo_0

"It's not going to show up as their post, it's going to show up as your post. It's not doing anything you can't do manually by copying and pasting what they wrote into your own composing window."

Where does the "consent" you mention as a hashtag come in?

Consent for the original author to have their posts edited and CWs?

There's a reason quote-posts have not been adopted by the Mastodon distro globally

Had you not noticed, or do you not care?

So now you've written a work-around

Again, how do I opt-out?

@tokyo_0

"A new tab should open showing the composer, pre-populated with the text from the toot you want to share. You can make edits and add a content warning, and then publish, within a few seconds — or take as long as you want!"

Utterly astonished that this allows anyone to alter the original content of a post *they* themselves did not author by adding a CW warning overlay and (apparently, on quick reading) even edit the text of the original post

What's to stop *anyone* from completely negating and/or reversing the original author's meaning and intent?

How do I block this completely?

Did you allow for any mechanism for that, or is what people post now entirely under the control of random, unknown third parties?

Just (again) because some coderbro thinks it's a bright idea?

Wow...

#ContentWarnings #Consent #Fediverse #Mastodon #MastodonRetootBookmarklet #OptIn

@dansup

Which excuses what conduct, exactly, in 2024?

cc @FediThing

@tokyo_0

"what are you talking about?"

While we're waiting for an answer to that question, perhaps @dale could work up explanations for these points from his own profile:

"I think defederating is an unweildy hammer and that "Embrace, extend, and extinguish" can (and should) go in the other direction for a change"

Really? Do what we claim to despise? Really?

"Instead of trying to ban people from being able to talk to their family, get their family involved in the fediverse, let them see how much better things could be"

Maybe people are already "talking to their family" on Insta and Facebook

But we need to get them on the Fediverse too?

"We dont need conflate being able to run a server with being able to make safety decisions on your behalf."

Yeah. You chose this instance. Sit down, suck it up, and don't have any expectations about what the admins or mods are doing or not doing

And stop whining about your precious "safety"

cc @lmorchard

@smallpatatas

If I'm reading the timestamp correctly, it's now two hours later and still no reply

Tim C is a Maxi-Fedi cheerleader and fanboi

Just like Evan P and Gargron (both of whom have me blocked)

No Fediverse is too large

Even if it means being overrun by a Meta tsunami

cc @tchambers @timbray @fancysandwiches

@wileyfoxyx

That's utterly meaningless to me

I'm not on Threads

Are you really not understanding how this works?

@TwodpadsDown

That screenshot applies *only* to people on Threads, with accounts on Threads

It has nothing to do with anyone on #Mastodon or anywhere else on the #Fediverse

Do *you* understand how any of this works?

Then, I've been replying continually to Mosseri's cloned #Threads posts over here on #Mastodon since mid-December, so I'm well-aware of exactly how all this works -- in reality

Or doesn't work

In a few weeks (or less the way things are going) it'll be time to #DomainBlock #ThreadsdotNet and clear my timeline of all this noise

UPDATE:

See pinned post; Domain Block for @Threads.net and word filter for Threads

#TimeliineCleanse

cc @wileyfoxyx

@zuck

Question:

Will you see my reply to your #Threads post, cloned over here onto #Mastodon to make it look like Threads is "federated" -- back over on your original post on Threads?

Betting not

All your #Meta "federation" hype is just bullshit PR

cc @tylert

@dansup

Oh yeah, I get it now

If we're not hard-core coder bros, we're just consumers and we get to sit down and shut up and just keep consuming what ever's fed us

Got it

And please: by all means, keep waiting

@pixelfed

@dansup

Hand-curated by you

Interesting

Interesting

And you are on Mastodon dot Social

Interesting

Interesting

The puzzle pieces continue to fit together

cc @pixelfed

@dansup

Yeah, well, just saw the damnedest thing scroll by

@pixelfed is now pushing Zuckerberg as the most-followed Fediverse account, with Mosseri as third, here:

"Popular Fediverse Accounts

The most popular accounts across the fediverse"

https://fedidb.org/popular-fediverse-accounts

which seems to be brand new

Is FediDB actually run by Gargron?

May have to re-evaluate how seriously I take that data...

@0xjessel

So your cloned post here on Mastodon is about 12 minutes old as I type this

Will my reply propagate back over to your original Threads post?

Otherwise there is *no* "federation" -- no matter how many times you use the word

Ready?

And...

...post

@GossiTheDog

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that he says this quickly, in passing, in the video

It's the usage of "federated" that digs

Posts from Threads -- (for the few that are even allowed, my List is up to 16 I think) are "federated" onto Mastodon only in the sense that they are cloned images

They aren't live in any "federated" sense

cc @pcottle

@GossiTheDog

I replied to his "federated" Threads post this morning:

"@pcottle

I see the clone of your original post from #Threads on my #Mastodon instance

Do you see my reply to your original post from Threads back over on Threads?

Betting you don't

Replies to Threads posts (those selected few that are allowed to clone their posts to Mastodon) never propagate back over to the original on Threads"

At 5:05 pm PDT he still hasn't seen it or replied, and my reply hasn't propagated back over to his original post on Threads

@forteller

Final call, because yes, you don't understand this

""why can't the standard/default Mastodon installation/UI/UX ootb ... do it?", is that better?"

The standard "standard/default Mastodon installation/UI/UX" is a software distribution

It does *not* render itself

It must be rendered through some sort of user interface, whether that's a web browser (Firefox) a web browser add-on (Phanpy) or an independent app, most likely running on a phone

To make a poor example, it's like asking "why can't my single-overhead cam 2.0 liter gas engine take me anywhere"?

Because it has to be installed in an "app" -- in this case, a car

@forteller

"Mastodon" is not an app

It's a software distribution

You're talking web browser (an app) behavior versus Phanpy (an app) behavior

You need an app of some sort to view anything running Mastodon

One of the biggest unspoken issues is that each app (seemingly) has an entirely different feature set specific only to itself

Talk to our young Gargron about that

He's the boss

So there is no "Mastodon itself"

@forteller

Let's parse this:

"clicking on a link to a post on another #Fediverse instance"

"opens the link in a new tab"

"instead of opening the post in my instance"

You click on a link to a post that's not on the instance you're homed on

Your web browser (right?) opens the link in a new tab

The new tab contains content that is on a different instance than yours

Have I got this right?

Sounds like everything is working exactly as it's supposed to

It has nothing to do with the "maturity" of Mastodon

It has to do with how http links to other web sites than the one you're immediately looking at really work

Been that way for decades

Sorry

@BenjaminBuse

#Newsmast is one of the more aggressive/blatant #Mastodon / #Fediverse content scrapers/aggregators I've yet seen

As you quote, they're quite pleased with themselves and are very busy growing by leaps and bounds daily

Oh

They are a registered (UK I believe) charity/non-profit and would *love* your donation too

[pukes]

@amgine

Yeah, Newsmast is a content aggregator

Search "newsmast" and look at the profiles to see what they cover

They sucked one of my posts into one of their feeds and published it strictly on the basis of the hashtag I'd used

I've since blocked them all

#Fediverse #Newsmast