Notices by misfit loser zealot patatas (smallpatatas@mstdn.patatas.ca)

@emc2

"Google was able to remove XMPP from the commons by absorbing most of the user base into their own platform"

sorry how is this part of an argument for federation with meta lol

@emc2 I did

@emc2 You haven't thought through the algorithmic or surveillance aspects either, would you like responses to each post individually, or

@emc2 your claim here is that the protocol protects against algorithmic influence and surveillance. I'll grant you that it prevents some additional surveillance in the context of federation with meta but it absolutely does not prevent algorithmic influence.

So given that it's your claim here, I have to assume that it's your conclusion elsewhere, meaning, no you haven't

@emc2 that's a gish gallop by another name. No, I'm not digging through your entire post history. You made the claim here, I'm addressing it here.

@emc2 @damon

Yeah so unfortunately that's not how it will work in practice.

If facebook prioritizes certain kinds of content, that stuff will inevitably be what gets shared and commented on more often, and given the size of the potential userbase, they'll effectively be able to set the tone and the topics for the wider network. Plus, you'll find you get more engagement when fb boosts your stuff, so in this way you'll be encouraged to 'dance to their algo' as I like to call it.

In terms of surveillance: at present, your social graph here is separate from whatever social graph fb has on you on their platform. Once federated, they can merge these two data sets, making whatever data they may have grabbed from the Fedi far more valuable.

In addition, due to the fact that you'll often need to click on a profile to view it "on the original page" means fb will quickly be able to link your fedi profile with their wider web surveillance apparatus.

loving the website redesign

@kevinrns https://fedipact.online/
made by @vantablack

EDIT: for clarity - the following are instances that have said they will BLOCK META :)

EDIT 2: ADMINS, please sign at https://cryptpad.fr/form/#/2/form/view/Xz2YqIlhXIFXCitQApFe6Dp14O54I6vuqTUUgo8WbdM/

here are the larger instances so far (5000+ users):
piaille.fr
mastodon.art
pixelfed.social
(1000+ users):
tech.lgbt
botsin.space
mastodon.nz
eldritch.cafe
urbanists.social
mastodon.radio
octodon.social
(500+ users):
queer.party
discuss.systems