Notices by yoasif (yoasif@mastodon.social)

@dalias @ariadne I said different, but I suppose I assumed that the GPL projects @ariadne was thinking about the ones who have given into slop coding; GPL code that isn't GPL, essentially.

I think if people are the ones developing the codebase, we are still stuck with the problem of derivative works not complying with the GPL (as the slop coded projects are derivatives of the GPL projects that have been trained on).

Copyleft becomes less of a cudgel - I don't think it is anything but weaker.

@darnell @jalefkowit @ricmac About using it to check code... https://www.backslash.security/blog/can-ai-vibe-coding-be-trusted

The same applies to everything else, of course.

@weebdeluxe I wrote a little about #Mozilla pivot to #AI as well: https://www.quippd.com/writing/2026/02/09/firefoxs-ai-kill-switch-is-a-trap-how-mozilla-made-ai-your-problem.html

You may enjoy it.

I have largely moved to @librewolf FWIW.

@dalias @quarknova I'm talking about contributing - this whole thread is about contributing.

If you are talking about something else, I'm happy to discontinue discussing.

@dalias @quarknova I don't agree that the commons is preserved, FWIW - I think continuing to contribute acknowledges that your contributions are given as a kind of dual-license - share-alike for the commons, proprietary (and paid for) for big tech.

Downstream from that, since the license is ignored when the trained LLMs output the contributions as public domain, you have preserved the contribution in a very different way than intended -- kind of a monkey paw effect.

@dalias @quarknova I agree - I am simply trying to make people aware of the fact that your contributions are no longer protected by share-alike when contributing to Wikipedia, since Wikipedia has opted you out.

If you don't think your contributions should be helping drive the slop that we all bemoan, it is probably a good idea to not continue to fund it for free.

Big Tech can hire people to edit a Wikipedia-like corpus that could conceivably better than Wikipedia; they've got the money.

@dalias @quarknova I mean, forks could exist.

Forks wouldn't have a deal for big tech to opt out of share-alike, so we could conceivably see better stewards for this repository of knowledge than the Jimmy Wales crew.

As it is, contributing directly to Wikipedia constitutes a tacit acknowledgement of a rejection of the license that your contributions are nominally contributed under; Wikipedia has opted you out, even if you haven't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0omu7x_LbU

@dalias @quarknova I don't actually believe that the bots can generate knowledge, but that is what we are told.

The lie is revealed with the demand for real human knowledge.

It isn't "malevolent capitalists" -- it is Wikipedia that has sold out its community: https://www.avclub.com/wikipedia-ai-partnerships-meta-amazon-microsoft

If it is good for the goose, why isn't good enough for the gander?

More precisely, why continue to contribute to Wikipedia when they have preemptively sold out the commons?

@quarknova I think that unfortunately, this policy is exactly what big tech wants - fresh training knowledge and training data from humans, which the tech companies are free to remix into new public domain works that are not protected by share-alike.

With this policy, Wikipedia demands that humans work for the bots for free, and the humans can't even take advantage of the bots to work against the theft of the commons.

@inthehands @julieofthespirits US WW2 - a better example of a concentration camp that wasn't a death camp.

@inthehands @julieofthespirits The internment camps were concentration camps, so that might be a better example.

@joepie91 @firefoxwebdevs Mozilla's tortured definition of opt-in seems to predict that Mozilla will invent features to nag you into enabling AI, as they have already done with Link Previews: https://www.quippd.com/writing/2026/01/06/architecting-consent-for-ai-deceptive-patterns-in-firefox-link-previews.html

Is #Mozilla new CEO actually threatening the removal of MV2 based ad blockers in #Firefox on his FIRST DAY as CEO?

"He says he could begin to block ad blockers in Firefox and estimates that’d bring in another $150 million, but he doesn’t want to do that. It feels off-mission."

Why is this even on your mind?

🤯

https://www.theverge.com/tech/845216/mozilla-ceo-anthony-enzor-demeo

@killyourfm #Mozilla is moving their support pages to AI translations: https://www.quippd.com/writing/2025/11/27/thank-mozilla-for-killing-localization-on-support-mozilla-and-replacing-human-contributions-with-AI-bots.html

😉

@skinnylatte Will need to visit soon!

@skinnylatte Where?

@tchambers @gedankenstuecke @anthropy I wasn't moving to bad faith, I was opting you out of providing a response, since the conversation had grown tiresome.

Nothing on that post about Servo.

I can understand you "think" that #Vivaldi can support #Servo in the future, but unless there are further comments you aren't linking, they hardly seem interested.

They seem just as interested in moving to WebKit (that is, not at all).

@tchambers @gedankenstuecke @anthropy 🤷 Vivaldi's own blog posts don't support what you claim, so I can understand why it feels circular.

PS: I looked for any statement from anyone at #Vivaldi confirming that they would be open to using Servo in the future -- I can't find anything like that -- not even a hint. Just community members asking, and other members saying that maybe it might be possible in the future.

You don't have to link to it, but I *am* curious if someone can find evidence.

@tchambers @gedankenstuecke @anthropy So zero investment. Just sounds like a hope and prayer -- or more likely, just a way to market themselves to people who want them to care about the open web -- even though they don't care to invest even a penny.

They support Chromium, not Servo.

@tchambers @gedankenstuecke @anthropy PS: Mozilla supports Gecko, but Vivaldi doesn't support Servo.

When Apple took over KHTML, they put in effort and code -- where is this idea coming from that Vivaldi could one day use Servo? Have they lifted a single finger in favor of it?

(Lest we forget that Servo was created at Mozilla).