@LostShakerOfSalt@tyler@BowsacNoodle@vic I'm not a White supremacist I'm a White nationalist, (East) Asians are superior to White people. Whites are superior to niggers and browns but we are not globally superior. If the Chinese want to racemix with us then I see no problem with it.
@Floydian_Psychology@LostShakerOfSalt@tyler@BowsacNoodle@vic I don't care about uniqueness I care about strength, something that is less unique but stronger is better than something that is more unique but weaker. Racemixing with Asians will make the White race stronger.
@HyperboreanWave@LostShakerOfSalt@tyler@BowsacNoodle@vic even if you think asians are relatively smart or have done some cool things in the past and have a unique culture that's all the more reason not to racemix with them because racemixing destroys the uniqueness of different cultures
LOL that's stupid. It is clear that you, regardless of how edgy and erudite you think you are, were raised in a Eurotrash culture somewhere that gaslighted you into thinking that racemixing is a good idea. Your race isn't made stronger by destroying it, you mongrel fuckwit. If you interbreed with them, your offspring cannot accept you, or the Asian parent, as a donor for most things. You've created a weaker being, not a stronger one. Basic science, you simpleton fuckwit.
@BattleDwarfGimli@LostShakerOfSalt@tyler@BowsacNoodle@Floydian_Psychology@vic Schizo rant, the problem isn't racemixing it's racemixing with inferior creatures, which makes your race inferior. I want the White race to be as superior as possible, and if Asians are demonstrating themselves to have superior qualities we should mix with them and integrate those into our race.
@Floydian_Psychology@LostShakerOfSalt@tyler@BowsacNoodle@vic Racemixing with high IQ East Asians is good selection. Sorry but it's clear that they're superior as can be seen by the pathetic state most of the White race is in today. We make our race stronger by racemixing with them.
@BowsacNoodle@Floydian_Psychology@LostShakerOfSalt@tyler@vic@DEERBLOOD I do like Asian women ya they're thin and docile unlike pigged out White women. When it comes to fundamentals there are good and bad things about them not saying they are always better (e.g. they are smarter than White women but also colder), but jews have massively degenerated White women.
@BowsacNoodle@Floydian_Psychology@LostShakerOfSalt@tyler@vic@DEERBLOOD I'm not against it but it's very difficult. Breeding is not the responsibility of the individual it's the job of the collective to enforce, if Whites in Canada aren't making it so they are breeding I'm not going to slave away to make it happen. Again I see the Chinese as based and there are plenty of them, I'm not obsessed with making more people.
@pyrate@LostShakerOfSalt@BattleDwarfGimli@tyler@BowsacNoodle@Floydian_Psychology@vic There's nothing that you can legally do as a jewmerican to save your race, your people are done. As for what other White nations should do, given that Whites will be such a small percentage of the global population after jews niggerfy you and Western Europe it might be a good idea to racemix with East Asians, but again that would be up to those nations to decide. I think Russia in particular would massively benefit, it's already bordering China and there are Asiatics in the country.
@vic@LostShakerOfSalt@BattleDwarfGimli@pyrate@tyler@BowsacNoodle@Floydian_Psychology Post a link to which organization you're referring to, and then we can see how much impact this organization actually had and if it was all lead by jews or not. A screencap doesn't mean shit. You're making a positive claim so you have to provide evidence, I don't need any evidence for a negative claim because it's the default. Oh wait, you're a retard who believes in fairytales that have no evidence, no wonder you have trouble grasping how logic works...
If I start doing your research for you, you say "Nuh uh, that doesn't count, no that's not a source, no that one was deboonked, nuh uh nuh uh" and waste all my time.
Live in your own ignorance while thinking you're the enlightened one.
Also, IQ alone does not tell the whole story. Yes, East Asians have a slightly higher average IQ than Whites. But you may have noticed they almost never actually INVENT anything. They will perfect the hell out of something White people invented, but very rarely invent anything themselves. That's because they are genetically predisposed to conformity, and inventions break conformity.
With the problems we face, we need inventiveness for survival. East Asians would be a poor place to find it.
On the rest of this thread which is just throwing insults back and forth ... who cares?
And no, the inventiveness thing is not a cope. Of course China can produce things cheaper with zilch environmental regulations, feeding a gigantic plastic island in the ocean, and suicide nets outside their factories.
If they were capable of making a civilization worth living in, they wouldn't be seeking to come to Canada and America in fucking droves because they'd be so happy in China. Reality is only White people can build civilizations so awesome everyone else wants to move there.
The mobile execution van thing, I must admit, is pretty snazzy. But, if the Jews are to be believed (which is iffy), a White man invented that first too.
As I mentioned, East Asians can perfect White inventions (such as making a car cheaper) but it is rare for them to actually invent something. Why do you think amps, volts, hertz etc have the names they do? They were named after their inventors -- White men.
Meanwhile, race mixing with Asians is self-genocide. IQ is not the only worthwhile human attribute. And Asians in general currently outnumber White people. They should be removed from our countries and sent back to their own.
@JohnYoungE@pyrate@LostShakerOfSalt@BattleDwarfGimli@tyler@BowsacNoodle@Floydian_Psychology@vic South Korea is literally under jewmerican occupation, North Korea has double its birthrate. China and North Korea have tons of people and don't need to keep growing. As for inventing, this is a cope. Jewmerica just put a 100% tariff on Chinese EVs because they are so much superior than anything they can produce.
Broadly, I would agree that most countries could afford that.
Sadly, they pretty much all are built on ponzi scheme financial systems that require infinite expansion.
Most of this climate change bullshit is actually angling to have everyone end up paying carbon fees, constantly renting etc as a way of making sure those who currently hold wealth don't see that diminish when markets can no longer expand. So its a way of squeezing more out of each individual.
There is another problem with decreased population beyond a certain point. All capacities exist on a curve. If you are facing problems requiring a bunch of people from the top 1% of the IQ distribution to address -- the lower your population, absent eugenics, the smaller the absolute number of that 1% will be. The whole point of AI is to try to reduce the impact of that.
I would agree that lowering population would be beneficial IF it were coupled with eugenic policies. But since that's unlikely, it just means massive collapse of finances, government etc etc etc.
@petra@BattleDwarfGimli@HyperboreanWave@LostShakerOfSalt@pyrate@tyler@Floydian_Psychology@vic Good faith discussions are for those who are willing to hear and learn or for bringing the foolish views into the light. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Few of these types can hold together their narrative for long without showing their hand to be empty and not grounded in reality. Once they unravel for all to see, you can just bring the proverbial peroxide with memes and mockery.
See, dry as they can be, this is where reading your Ancient Greeks comes in handy. I've been reading Plato's Republic on and off, over and over, for the last year now. It is revelatory.
@HyperboreanWave@petra@BattleDwarfGimli@LostShakerOfSalt@pyrate@tyler@Floydian_Psychology@vic Refusing to address any of the points brought up or acknowledge your own ignorance ≠ "BTFOing" anyone. I enjoy playing Sisyphus every now and then with you, but it gets boring rather quickly. You used to be capable of rational discussion, but now you're doubling down on anti-White propaganda pretending it's Christians who are the enemy of White people. You don't care that jews see Christ as the enemy and that they killed Him when He criticized their horrible behavior and threatened their power scheme. You don't care that Christianity kept jewish power in check for 1,500 years. You don't care that Christianity has libraries of material condemning the jews all the way to the early church fathers. You don't care that Christianity is true. You just attack it and the White people who practice it. In this way, you are identical to Jonathan Greenblatt.
Oh look. You’re Biblically ignorant as well as historically ignorant. Bolsheviks weren’t jews?? Are you fucking retarded? Many of them absolutely were (especially the Bolshevik leadership) you stupid, stupid moron. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn lived through their terror, and he easily confirmed this to be true.
Now go read a Bible and some history books, retard, because you are way out of your league here.
@BattleDwarfGimli@LostShakerOfSalt@pyrate@tyler@BowsacNoodle@Floydian_Psychology@vic >is shown proof that 95% of the Bolshevik leadership were kikes A twitter screencap is not proof. Post the organization you're referring to with the full list of names, or STFU. I'm just citing Lenin because he's the leader of the revolution, that's enough to invalidate what you're saying, but we can go over this organization if you want. And unlike Lenin the guy that you literally worship, jesus, was a jew.
@Floydian_Psychology@gav@J@LostShakerOfSalt@tyler@HyperboreanWave@vic I agree with you. Normie bugmanism is worse for civilization than being a sperglord, but it shows you're capable of reading social signals and that's "good" from a fitness perspective. It hides people who are weak and incapable. Opposite of this is full rejection of "normie" life, which already shows red flags for social signals and can hide the socially incapable in it. So yeah, I think people should learn how to be normal and be normal when appropriate, but I also think the problem of women is real.
@BowsacNoodle@gav@J@LostShakerOfSalt@tyler@HyperboreanWave@vic statistically men cheat more than women and date outside their race more than women what's your point ? yes its true that more women are on medication now but i don't blame them for that since they are prescribed these things when they're teens
@Floydian_Psychology@gav@J@LostShakerOfSalt@tyler@HyperboreanWave@vic That doesn't address my point other than you implying that women lack agency (based take TBH). So what's your point here? If you truly can't tell mine it's that society is setup in such a way that women are spoiled and it's a runaway train of problems. I am not trying to throw stones or blame all women for this either— it's a systemic problem.
the main issue I have with religious types when it comes to this kind of argument is blaming men for the womens behavior.
The problem is that our society allows women and even encourages them to make poor decisions.
I've said it before and I'll say it again - women shouldn't be voting. There are issues with men, yes, but one of the blaring issues is that women have WAY too much freedom in the west.
@BowsacNoodle@gav@J@LostShakerOfSalt@tyler@HyperboreanWave@vic my point was there is no problem with women intrinsically, women also aren't as dumb as people like you think, the problems associated with women en mass going into the workforce stem from breakdowns in social cohesion and runaway capitalism
@Tony@J@gav@LostShakerOfSalt@tyler@Floydian_Psychology@HyperboreanWave@vic >it's the mans responsibility to lead the women and if she's behaving badly its the mans fault for not teaching her. This is partially true, but it denies women of any agency (something our society loves to do) and is an incomplete answer. The best dude in the world can still have a bad wife, and vice versa. There is, spiritually, a responsibility of the man to lead his wife as head of household. When he fails, it falls to the woman and you end up with a higher degree of problems normally associated with single motherhood. This is different from the "MEN NEED TO STEP UP AND YOU'RE AWFUL" Christian (often Baptists*, no hate just facts) who CONVENIENTLY leave out the part about men as the head of household and what stewardship actually means.
I watched a debate with Michael Knowles about this, and he's "orthodox catholic" - he thinks it's the mans responsibility to lead the women and if she's behaving badly its the mans fault for not teaching her.
Sure, but that logic doesn't work when women are openly disrespectful to men and literally won't listen or follow any advice, even good advice, because iMa gUrL bOsS
@Tony@J@gav@LostShakerOfSalt@tyler@Floydian_Psychology@HyperboreanWave@vic >failing to recognize a lot of men aren't actually capable of being "head of the household". I think that's brings things back to my comment about the Baptist* types screaming for men to nut up. Systemic problem and such. The easiest way to "fix" things is at home, individually, and community of your choosing. There's a lot of weird idiosyncrasies that have revealed themselves over the last decade or so as social fabric continues to tear.
Well that's exactly the point. A lot of religious types who talk about this sort of thing inherently don't give agency or responsibility over their decisions while failing to recognize a lot of men aren't actually capable of being "head of the household".
I think we need to hold women responsible for their actions and give them full agency.
yah, at this point I don't actually think men can "nut up" because the system is increasingly stacked against them. Like that advice won't work until the systematic things preventing men from achieving things is worked on or reversed.
@Tony@dick@J@gav@LostShakerOfSalt@tyler@Floydian_Psychology@HyperboreanWave@vic They won't have a choice. what are they going to replace men with... AI? AI is cool but it can't open jars or reach things on the top shelf. Also if the guardrails are removed, it would likely put women into 1600s tier second class within a year.
I actually think that isn't really the cause. I don't think they "don't want to do it" I think that most people with the power to help men, won't help men because:
1. They don't think they should because men are the "oppressors" 2. It will make their home/professional life hell because you can't openly support mens rights in any capacity 3. They have been so indoctrinated into the feminist mind set, they see supporting men or men having "power" in the home as somehow mean or abusive towards their wives.
Idk, i don't know if that'll actually happen in our lifetimes though. I think the likely next step is just increase serfdom and enslavement (go to work, go home, get your treats delivered, consume media).
I think the general population will just continue to become more and more docile.
@Floydian_Psychology@gav@J@LostShakerOfSalt@tyler@HyperboreanWave@vic It's important even if it doesn't do anything, IMO. Having a shared recognition that something is on a bad path means ideas for solutions can battle it out. Even if they never see policy, they can move the Overton window or otherwise shape public opinion, even locally.
@Floydian_Psychology@gav@J@LostShakerOfSalt@tyler@HyperboreanWave@vic Honestly I don't even think women should have to be removed from the workforce by law or anything so foolish. Incentivize the behaviors you want to promote in society and you end up getting more of them or you end up playing reactionary whack-a-mole.
also women (or men) dont really have much freedom anymore. theres a lot more neoserfdom and much less abundance than there was 30 years ago. if you mean license, then yeah, sure but it's not nearly as much of a big deal when the social incentives are normal. the license itself isn't just lack of social stricture either, but rubbish and poz being pushed by kikes everywhere.
not saying any of this isn't a problem, mind you. just not what i focus on because its more downstream. it does suck having many women being alone and lost or crazy whores or shitlibs or whatever lol
@BowsacNoodle@gav@J@LostShakerOfSalt@tyler@HyperboreanWave@vic there was some greek philosopher that said something to that effect about some laws, yes laws are good but some things naturally order themselves and more laws in certain areas are a sign of things going off the rails