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   Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:21 JST Cory Doctorow

   #Enshittification is the process by which a #platform lures in and then captures end users (stage one), who serve as bait for business customers, who are also captured (stage two), whereupon the platform rug-pulls both groups and allocates all the value they generate and exchange to itself (stage three):

   https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys
   
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     If you'd like an essay-formatted version of this thread to read or share, here's a link to it on pluralistic.net, my surveillance-free, ad-free, tracker-free blog:

     https://pluralistic.net/2023/10/14/freedom-of-reach/#ex

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:25 JST Cory Doctorow

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     A sleazy boss can hide their wage-theft with a bunch of confusing deductions to your paycheck. But when your boss is an app, it can engage in #AlgorithmicWageDiscrimination, where your pay declines minutely every time you accept a job, but if you start to decline jobs, the app can raise the offer:

     https://pluralistic.net/2023/04/12/algorithmic-wage-discrimination/#fishers-of-men

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:26 JST Cory Doctorow

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     Enshittification isn't merely a form of #RentSeeking - it is a uniquely digital phenomenon, because it relies on the inherent flexibility of digital systems. There are lots of intermediaries that want to extract surpluses from customers and suppliers - everyone from grocers to oil companies - but these can't be reconfigured in an eyeblink the that that purely digital services can.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:29 JST Cory Doctorow

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     I call this process "#twiddling": tech platforms are equipped with a million knobs on their back-ends, and platform operators can endlessly twiddle those knobs, altering the business logic from moment to moment, turning the system into an endlessly shifting quagmire where neither users nor business customers can ever be sure whether they're getting a fair deal:

     https://pluralistic.net/2023/02/19/twiddler/

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:31 JST Cory Doctorow

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     A user will only spend so much time on Facebook, and every post that Facebook feeds that user from someone they *want* to hear from is a missed opportunity to show them a post from someone who'll *pay* to reach them.

     Here, too, twiddling lets Facebook fine-tune its approach. If a user starts to wean themself off Facebook, the algorithm (TM) can put more content the user has asked to see in the feed.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:32 JST Cory Doctorow

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     Then, it stopped showing publishers' content to their own subscribers, extorting them to pay to "boost" their posts in order to reach people who had explicitly asked to hear from them.

     For users, this meant that their feeds were increasingly populated with payola-boosted content from advertisers and pay-to-play publishers who paid Facebook's #Danegeld to reach them.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:33 JST Cory Doctorow

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     Twiddling lets platforms play users and business-customers like a fish on a line, giving them slack when they fight, then reeling them in when they tire.

     Once Facebook converted a publisher to a commodity supplier to the platform, it reeled the publisher in. First, it deprioritized publishers' posts when they had links back to the publisher's site (under the pretext of policing "#clickbait" and "#MaliciousLinks").

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:35 JST Cory Doctorow

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     As with gig workers, digital flexibility gave FB it lots of leeway. Some publishers sensed the excerpts they were posting were a substitute for visiting their sites - and not an enticement - and drew down their FB posting.

     When that happened, Facebook could twiddle in the publisher's favor, giving them broader distribution for shorter excerpts, then, once the publisher returned to the platform, Facebook drew down their traffic unless they started posting longer pieces.

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     "Post short excerpts from your content and links back to your websites and we'll nonconsensually cram them into eyeballs of people who never asked to see them. It's a free, high-value traffic funnel for your site, bringing monetizable users right to your door."

     Now, Facebook had to find a way to lock in those publishers. To do this, it had to twiddle. By tiny increments, Facebook deprioritized publishers' content, forcing them to make their excerpts grew progressively longer.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:37 JST Cory Doctorow

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     Once its users were locked in, Facebook turned to advertisers and said, "Remember when we told these rubes we'd never spy on them? It was a lie. We spy on them with every hour that God sends, and we'll sell you access to that data in the form of dirt-cheap targeted ads."

     Then Facebook went to the publishers and said, "Remember when we told these suckers that we'd only show them the things they asked to see? Total lie.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:38 JST Cory Doctorow

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     You joined Facebook because you liked the people who were there, then others joined because they liked *you*. Facebook can now make life worse for all of you without losing your business. You might hate Facebook, but you like each other, and the #CollectiveActionProblem of deciding when and whether to go, and where you should go next, is so difficult to overcome, that you all stay in a place that's getting progressively worse.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:40 JST Cory Doctorow

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     First, it lured in end-users by promising them a good deal: "Unlike Myspace, which spies on you from asshole to appetite, Facebook is a privacy-respecting site that will *never, ever* spy on you. Simply sign up, tell us everyone who matters to you, and we'll populate a feed with everything they post for public consumption":

     https://lawcat.berkeley.edu/record/1128876

     The users came, and locked themselves in: when people gather in social spaces, they inadvertently take one another hostage.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:41 JST Cory Doctorow

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     Social media platforms are compulsive twiddlers. They use endless variation to lure in - and then lock in - publishers, with the goal of converting these standalone businesses into commodity suppliers who are dependent on the platform, who can then be charged rent to reach the users who *asked* to hear from them.

     #Facebook designed this playbook.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:43 JST Cory Doctorow

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     All it takes is one privacy scandal, one livestreamed mass-shooting, one whistleblower dump, and people bolt for the exits. This kicks off a death-spiral: as users and business customers leave, the platform's shareholders demand that they squeeze the remaining population harder to make up for the loss.

     One reason this gambit worked so well is that it was a long con.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:44 JST Cory Doctorow

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     When the user's participation returns to higher levels, Facebook can draw down the share of desirable content again, replacing it with monetizable content. This is done minutely, behind the scenes, automatically, and quickly. In any shell game, the quickness of the hand deceives the eye.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:44 JST Cory Doctorow

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     This is the final stage of enshittification: withdrawing surpluses from end-users and business customers, leaving behind the minimum homeopathic quantum of value for each needed to keep them locked to the platform, generating value that can be extracted and diverted to platform shareholders.

     But this is a brittle equilibrium to maintain. The difference between "God, I hate this place but I just can't leave it" and "Holy shit, this *sucks*, I'm outta here" is razor-thin.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:47 JST Cory Doctorow

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     Elon Musk's prefrontal cortical deficit resulted in his being forced to buy Twitter, and his every action since has betrayed an even graver inability to stop tripping over his own dick.

     Where Zuckerberg played enshittification as a long game, Musk is bent on speedrunning it. He doesn't slice his users up with a subtle scalpel, he hacks away at them with a hatchet.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:48 JST Cory Doctorow

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     Platforms' patience paid off. Their slow ratchets operated so subtly that we barely noticed the squeeze, and when we did, they relaxed the pressure until we were lulled back into complacency. Long cons require a lot of prefrontal cortex, the executive function to exercise patience and restraint.

     Which brings me to #ElonMusk, a man who seems to have been born with no prefrontal cortex, who repeatedly and publicly demonstrated that he lacks any restraint, patience or planning.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:49 JST Cory Doctorow

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     For example, Facebook's product manager for its "photos" product wrote to Mark Zuckerberg to lay out a strategy of enticing users into uploading valuable family photos to the platform in order to "make switching costs very high for users," who would have to throw away their precious memories as the price for leaving Facebook:

     https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/08/facebooks-secret-war-switching-costs

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:50 JST Cory Doctorow

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     Platform operators and their investors have been willing to throw away billions convincing end-users and business customers to lock themselves in until it was time for the pig-butchering to begin. They financed expensive forays into additional features and complementary products meant to increase user lock-in, raising the switching costs for users who were tempted to leave.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:53 JST Cory Doctorow

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     Image:
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     CC BY 2.0
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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:54 JST Cory Doctorow

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     My next novel is *The Lost Cause*, a hopeful tale of the climate emergency. As with all my audiobooks, Amazon refuses to sell this one, so I made my own indie audiobook and I'm pre-selling it right now through Kickstarter:

     http://lost-cause.org

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:56 JST Cory Doctorow

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     Musk has flagrantly violated so many rules, laws and consent decrees that he has accidentally turned Twitter into the perfect starting point for a program of platform reform and platform evacuation.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:57 JST Cory Doctorow

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     This is the Great Enshittening, a moment of universal, end-stage platform decay. As the platforms burn, calls to address the fires grow louder and harder for policymakers to resist. But not all solutions to platform decay are created equal. Some solutions will perversely *enshrine* the dominance of platforms, help make them both #TooBigToFail and #TooBigToJail.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:58 JST Cory Doctorow

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     End-to-End does not present this kind of barrier. The default state for a social media platform is to deliver posts from accounts to their followers. Interfering with End-To-End costs *more* than delivering the messages users want to have. Likewise, a Right To Exit is a solved problem, built into the open Mastodon protocol, itself built atop the open #ActivityPub standard.

     It's not just Twitter. Every platform is consuming itself in an orgy of enshittification.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:23:59 JST Cory Doctorow

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     Requiring Twitter to police its users' conduct also requires it to hire an army of moderators - something that Elon Musk might be able to afford, but community-supported, small federated servers couldn't. A tech regulation can easily become a barrier to entry, blocking better competitors who might replace the company whose conduct spurred the regulation in the first place.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:00 JST Cory Doctorow

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     Administering Right To Exit is as simple as saying, "OK, Twitter, I know you say you gave Cory his follower and followee file, but he says he never got it. Just send him another copy, and this time, CC the regulator so we can verify that it arrived."

     Beyond administration, there's the cost of compliance.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:02 JST Cory Doctorow

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     If you want to know whether Musk is permitting harassment on his platform, you have to agree on a definition of harassment, determine whether a given act meets that definition, and then investigate whether Twitter took reasonable steps to prevent it.

     By contrast, administering End-To-End merely requires that you post something and see if your followers receive it.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:03 JST Cory Doctorow

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     Publishers aghast at having the headlines removed from their Twitter posts could go somewhere less slipshod and still reach the people who want to hear from them on Twitter.

     And both Right To Exit and End-To-End satisfy the two prime tests for sound internet regulation: first, they are easy to administer.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:04 JST Cory Doctorow

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     A Twitter with the Right To Exit would exert a powerful discipline even on the stunted self-regulatory centers of Elon Musk's brain. If he banned a reporter for publishing truthful coverage that cast him in a bad light, that reporter would have the legal right to move to another platform, *and continue to reach the people who follow them on Twitter*.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:05 JST Cory Doctorow

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     This would be an #interoperability rule that would require Twitter to adopt #Mastodon's approach to server-hopping: click a link to export the list of everyone who follows you on one server, click another link to upload that file to another server, and all your followers and followees are relocated to your new digs:

     https://pluralistic.net/2022/12/23/semipermeable-membranes/#free-as-in-puppies

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:06 JST Cory Doctorow

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     While there's a short-term case for improving the platforms, our long-term strategy should be *evacuating* them:

     https://pluralistic.net/2023/07/18/urban-wildlife-interface/#combustible-walled-gardens

     To make that a reality, we could also impose a #RightToExit" on the platforms.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:13 JST Cory Doctorow

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     When Twitter asks you who you want to hear from, then refuses to deliver their posts to you unless they pay a bribe, that's both "unfair and deceptive":

     https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/10/the-courage-to-govern/#whos-in-charge

     But that's only a stopgap. The problem with Twitter isn't that this important service is run by the wrong mercurial, mediocre billionaire: it's that hundreds of millions of people are at the mercy of *any* foolish corporate leader.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:14 JST Cory Doctorow

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     For one thing, Musk's Twitter has violated innumerable laws and consent decrees in the US, Canada and the EU, which creates a space for regulators to impose "conduct remedies" on the company.

     But there's also existing regulatory authorities, like the #FTC's #SectionFive powers, which enable the agency to act against companies that engage in "unfair and deceptive" acts.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:15 JST Cory Doctorow

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     Despite what you may have heard, "#FreedomOfReach" *is* freedom of speech: when a platform interposes itself between willing speakers and their willing audiences, it arrogates to itself the power to control what we're allowed to say and who is allowed to hear us:

     https://pluralistic.net/2022/12/10/e2e/#the-censors-pen

     We have a wide variety of tools to make a rule like this stick.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:16 JST Cory Doctorow

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     All this raises the question of what can or should be done about Twitter. One possible regulatory response would be to impose an "#EndToEnd" rule on the service, requiring that Twitter deliver posts from willing senders to willing receivers without interfering in them. End-to-end is the bedrock of the internet (one of its incarnations is #NetNeutrality) and it's a proven counterenshittificatory force:

     https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/06/save-news-we-need-end-end-web

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:17 JST Cory Doctorow

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     But I stuck with Twitter, because I have a half-million followers, and to the extent that I reach them there, I can hope that they will follow the permalinks to Pluralistic proper and switch over to RSS, or email, or a daily visit to the blog.

     But with each day, the case for using Twitter grows weaker. I get ten times as many replies and reposts on Mastodon, though my Mastodon follower count is a tenth the size of my (increasingly hypothetical) Twitter audience.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:19 JST Cory Doctorow

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     And of all the feeds I produce - email, RSS, Discourse, Medium, Tumblr, Mastodon - none is as labor-intensive as Twitter's. It is an unforgiving medium to begin with, and Musk's drawdown of engineering support has made it wildly unreliable. Many's the time I've set up 20+ posts in a thread, only to have the browser tab reload itself and wipe out all my work.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:20 JST Cory Doctorow

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     There are a lot of automated tools to help you with this, but the platforms have gone to great lengths to break or neuter them. Musk's attack on Twitter's legendarily flexible and powerful API killed every automation tool that might help with this. I was lucky enough to have a reader - #LorenKohnfelder - who coded me some python scripts that automate much of the process, but POSSE remains a very labor-intensive and error-prone methodology:

     https://pluralistic.net/2021/01/13/two-decades/#hfbd

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:21 JST Cory Doctorow

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     I embraced a strategy called #POSSE: #PostOwnSiteSyndicateEverywhere. With POSSE, the permalink and native habitat for your material is a site you control (in my case, a #Wordpress blog with all the telemetry, logging and surveillance disabled). Then you repost that content to other platforms - mostly social media - with links back to your own site:

     https://indieweb.org/POSSE

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:23 JST Cory Doctorow

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     On Twitter, the true number of followers you have is effectively zero - not because Twitter users haven't explicitly instructed the service to show them your posts, but because every post in their feeds they want to see is a post that no one can be charged to show them.

     I've experienced this myself. Three and a half years ago, I left Boing Boing and started pluralistic.net, my cross-platform, open access, surveillance-free, daily newsletter and blog:

     https://pluralistic.net/2023/02/19/drei-drei-drei/#now-we-are-three

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     Boing Boing had the good fortune to have attracted a sizable audience before the advent of siloed platforms, and a large portion of them came to the site directly, rather than following us on social media. I knew that, starting a new platform from scratch, I wouldn't have that luxury. My audience would come from social media, and it would be up to me to convert readers into people who followed me on platforms I controlled - where neither they nor I could be held to ransom.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:24 JST Cory Doctorow

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     NPR's Twitter accounts had 8.7 million followers, but even six months ago, Musk's enshittification speedrun had drawn down NPR's ability to reach those users to a negligible level. The 8.7 million number was an illusion, a shell game Musk played on publishers like NPR in a bid to get them to buy a five-figure iridium checkmark or even a six-figure titanium one.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:26 JST Cory Doctorow

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     All this has the effect of highlighting just how *little* residual value there is on the platform for publishers, and tempts them to bolt for the exits. Six months ago, #NPR lost all patience with Musk's shenanigans, and quit the service. Half a year later, they've revealed how low the switching cost for a major news outlet that leaves Twitter really are: NPR's traffic, post-Twitter, has declined by less than a single percentage point:

     https://niemanreports.org/articles/npr-twitter-musk/

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:27 JST Cory Doctorow

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     Publishers were advised to "post content in long form on this platform":

     https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/111183068362793821

     Where a canny enshittifier would have gestured at a gaslighting explanation ("we're shadowbanning posts with links because they might be malicious"), Musk busts out the motto of the #DarthVaderMBA: "I am altering the deal, pray I don't alter it any further."

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:28 JST Cory Doctorow

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     Quite the reverse: first, Musk removed headlines from link previews, rendering posts by publishers that went to their own sites into stock-art enigmas that generated no traffic:

     https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/oct/05/x-twitter-strips-headlines-new-links-why-elon-musk

     Then he jumped straight to the end-stage of enshittification by announcing that he would shadowban any newsmedia posts with links to sites other than Twitter, "because there is less time spent if people click away."

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:31 JST Cory Doctorow

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     Today, Musk continues to squeeze advertisers, publishers and users, and his hamfisted enticements to make up for these depredations are spectacularly bad, and even illegal, like offering advertisers a new kind of ad that isn't associated with any Twitter account, can't be blocked, and is not labeled as an ad:

     https://www.wired.com/story/xs-sneaky-new-ads-might-be-illegal/

     Of course, Musk has a compulsive bullshitter's contempt for the press, so he has far fewer enticements for them to stay.

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:33 JST Cory Doctorow

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     Musk's Twitter rolled out a bewildering array of "verification" ticks, each priced higher than the last, and publishers who refused to pay found their subscribers taken hostage, with Twitter downranking or #shadowbanning their content unless they paid.

     (Musk also squeezed advertisers, keeping the same high prices but reducing the quality of the offer by killing programs that kept advertisers' content from being published along Holocaust denial and open calls for genocide.)

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     Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:24:34 JST Cory Doctorow

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     Where Facebook deployed substantial effort to enticing users who tired of eyeball-cramming feed decay by temporarily improving their feeds, Musk's Twitter actually overrode users' choice to switch back to a chronological feed by repeatedly flipping them back to more monetizable, algorithmic feeds.

     Then came the squeeze on publishers.

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     @Da_Gut There is no policy more foolish than opposing or supporting something because someone else does. Paleocons opposed the Iraq invasion - that doesn't make it right. White evangelicals *supported* abortion until the 1980s - that doesn't make it wrong.

     https://pluralistic.net/2021/12/18/schizmogenesis/

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     Da_Gut (da_gut@dice.camp)'s status on Sunday, 15-Oct-2023 19:35:55 JST Da_Gut

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     @pluralistic Ah yes, the Republicans and hate groups in the U.S. really, really want this as well. You aren't either, as far as I can tell, but its definitely strange bedfellows you have.

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     "counterenshittificatory" should be the word of the year.

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