@ntnsndr just found this old book they both contributed to
https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262621519/crypto-anarchy-cyberstates-and-pirate-utopias/

@delta @kinetix 99.9% of user's family/friends will not want to create a new account and learn/use another piece of software, at least not to get started.
You can repeat the "Sent with Hotmail" viral process.
Sounds like you should grease 2 transitions, to chatserver account, and to DeltaChat client. And you should support them in any order, as well as never doing either.
(You can ignore me, I'm not even a real user at the moment....)

@cwebber @Infoseepage see also Steven Roberts 1983 bicycle (no emacs, RadioShack model100)
https://microship.com/bikes/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_K._Roberts

@mekkaokereke I read the whole thread before my first response.
Saying "rhetorical device designed to curry favor with people that hate you" is wrong. Whose favor would Bernie's comment currying?
The first line would curry favor with Musk fans, then the rest would make them angry.
Did you mean "curry favor for 3 seconds before currying anger"?
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/028/720/t3qkhrohrh321.jpg

@mekkaokereke he's not agreeing, he's using rhetorical judo, pointing out that the people who complain about waste never touch the biggest waster.

@inthehands we need a Cube Rule for languages
https://cuberule.com/

@mtraven23 @screwtape who owns virtual marvin? ;)

@screwtape @mtraven23 @asb I wonder whether something like MOOSE Crossing would still be a viable gateway to having people learn programming....
https://muds.fandom.com/wiki/MOOSE_Crossing

@screwtape in fresh reading about MOOs I hit a @mtraven23 reference via @asb !
https://www.pcmag.com/news/wikipedia-the-most-reliable-source-on-the-internet#:~:text=my%20friend%20Mike%20Travers%20showed%20me%20a%20model
Mike, is Virtual Marvin still running anywhere?

was anybody here on MediaMOO back in the day?
https://faculty.cc.gatech.edu/~asb/papers/journal/convergence.html

@screwtape @sacha I'm kinda bummed I was never on a MUD/MOO...

@tim @pluralistic technologies mentioned in the sequel:
http://webseitz.fluxent.com/wiki/HomeLand

@alcinnz A (Written) Oral History of “ars PARADOXICA”
https://wilwilliams.reviews/2019/12/13/a-written-oral-history-of-ars-paradoxica/

@alcinnz "Even within a book, you have to be able to discard large segments that don't have merit. The Phoenix Project is a good example: Gene Kim has written a whole book about organizational transformation, but he only put one bad actor into the whole book then made everyone else super competent and earnest. That's not what big companies are like, so you need to have enough of your brain switched on to get the good ideas then realize the rest of it is cringe-worthy leadership fanfic." ouch

@evan @ricmac @Gargron btw what server app is running cosocial.ca?

@codingcoyote @alcinnz
and sync http://webseitz.fluxent.com/wiki/BitTorrentSync
and was even doing chat http://webseitz.fluxent.com/wiki/2014-09-17-BittorrentBleepMessaging

@garrett @alcinnz the past is still here, it's just unevenly distributed

@akkartik @clarity
Am I missing a good environment for real-time remote code-pairing?
I guess most pairing guides stress taking turns, with 2nd person not touching anything, so pushing a PR and switching who shares kinda gets there...?

@akkartik @clarity yeah, I feel like the hardware is just a big distraction. Though I could be wrong.
Real-time rich collaboration, whether sitting-beside or remote, seems like a bigger lever.

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