@x_cli@feld@jerry > Can you please name one open network of significant size that is not crippled by spam, please? I don't need to? Besides your definition of open network is too malleable to build an argument on in the first place.
I'd say that if the fediverse is an open network, then in the case of spam in particular it's enough for instance admins to deferetate instances that host spam, and this is not at all equivalent to or in defense of any views you seem to have.
@lxo > he left to protect the FSF from a moral panic caused by fake news that maligned him. just stop, I left the FSF I don't care anymore. Go be correct with the rest of the FOSS bros.
@cyberspook why credit gnu for linux thou, it just doesn't sit right with me and it's that type of BS that has made FSF so unviable, like instead of stuff like that scaring away people from free software (something RMS is great at doing himself for the last 30 years) they should focus on what they are good at, making licenses and helping other people make great software, like...
@cyberspook to be honest i think in present day and present time the gnu controbutions are too small to be considered in the name, and its kinda out of touch that stallman would say that (which says a lot about the current FSF!)
@slightlyflightyone I mean, to be fair, he does have a lot of good takes, but they're just sadly tainted by his flaws that out weight them easily... he is kind of a midwit actually IMO
@slightlyflightyone > it’s that he has a really bad habit of thinking about himself first and everybody else never The worst part is I think he unironically comes from a good place, but it doesn't excuse his behavior or his lack of willingness to address it...
It's like ffs if he could just admit that maybe saying EMACS users should take womens EMACS virginity or literally anything but NO, he is ALWAYS the victim.
@lxo you didn't reply to anything I posted, you just started your own rant, either reply to what I bring up directly or don't reply at all, this flat type of statement is EXACTLY what I criticize about the FSF never being able to take blaim, and it's cancerous
@newt@lxo seems like the most petty and trivial point, even if that was the case linus was not turned away by that, he was turned away by his feelings that the FSF was lying to him
@newt@lxo I don't care if it's a linus problem, the linux kernel is a FSF problem whether or not you wanna admit it. When Hurd can't get shipped the kernel is THE flagship FSF product that they didn't even make, such a shame that they manage to miss the mark on this constantly
@lxo > tolerance, diversity, and respect for others rather than hatred and corporate propaganda Those are nice platitudes, but regardless of corporate propaganda, we need to be real about RMS:
1. He drives away women from FSF, has done so for a long time 2. He was put back in charge with no vote 3. The FSF has actually seeked to use corporate progapanda by hiring “consultants” from oustide the FSF to “look into the election process”, absolute corpo speak and not any meaningful change 4. His view on pedophilia should not be aired while head of the FSF 5. He is nothing more than a puppet head at this point 6. He seems to complain a lot and understand a little, e.g. on the emacs mailing list 7. The FSF managed to make Linus hostile to them because of their two-faced ways, that lost us a Linux kernel under GPLv3, never forget 8. Stallman has NEVER showed the character and integrity to own up to any accusations against him, he always strawmans his critics and self victimizes 9. The mindless defense of Stallman is by a group of members at the FSF that by and large are people that talk a lot and do very little
So to me, what's the loss? What's there to win trying to defend or help an organization so inherently flawed and broken. Heck, at this point I'd be willing to believe that Microsoft has infiltrated the FSF just from how bad things have gotten. The Free Software Foundation Europe is a great alternative, a modern and serious organization that seem to produce great work.
The FSF seems like tech debt, like legacy code we still haven't refactored.
Perhaps it's time for something else? The OSI is compromised, the software freedom conservancy is compromised, the FSF is functionally compromised.
I feel like a lot of you just got old and lazy, I don't wanna point the next generation in the direction of rot and decay.
I'd like to hear your thoughts on this, I put a lot forth here, and Brandolinis law gives you a lot to work with in good faith, please don't reduce my whole criticism to “corporate propaganda” again that is very disrespectful.
@lxo I get there is has been plenty of corporate interference, but stallman has driven away women from the FSF for decades regardless, and his reelection was not done in a way that I can respect, these points you must agree with at least?
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