@testing Sadly, I'm not aware of any #Friendica instances from Asia. The last one was “Blah Blah Communities”, though IIRC, it was a #Hubzilla instance.
So… welcome to new users in the #Fediverse network!
If you are exploring the fediverse through the #Mastodon software, feel free to explore other platforms like #Streams#Calckey#Hubzilla#Friendica#Akkoma to mention a few, for your usual “status updates” (and more) UI/UX.
If you want a platform more focused on photos and images, then there is #Pixelfed. Or, you want bookshelves and tracking what you've read, or leaving #book reviews, there is #BookWyrm.
But the beauty of it all, all of these are connected to the fediverse. You can follow any user regardless of which software they are using; AND regardless which server (domain name) they signed-up for.
Thanks to everyone who works on making stuff accessible outside walled gardens but the only viable way seems to create the content outside of those gardens in the first place.
Yet another question people are asking me: "How can I, a common person, help hasten the demise of #Meta through #ActivityPub?"
Again, I want to re-emphasize this. #Fediblock is not an all-purpose tool. It's useful as a hammer. But in this scenario, we don't just need a hammer. We need drills, pliers, saws, and blowtorches.
That said, we must protect communities that choose to defederate from Meta. Which means that if those servers don't want to receive messages from any Meta-owned services, we must not only be respectful of that, we should make damn sure that those servers are quarantined from Meta. So much of the success of fighting Meta will require safe spaces from Meta.
The next thing we need is lots and lots of nodes. Currently, we only have ~25,000 nodes on the Fediverse but we need more. Preferably, these nodes should be small, agile, and well-moderated. If you have the finances and/or skill to run a node, it's important that you do so. To compete with Meta, we need to build scale -- and the easiest way to build scale is by adding more nodes to the Fediverse.
What will also be key is lobby servers. These will be servers specifically set up for migrants from Meta-owned services to help onboard them towards the rest of the Fediverse. To run such a lobby server, they need to be welcoming, moderated well, and free of the elitists and gatekeepers that poison so much of the Fediverse currently.
How to get people from Meta to try out the rest of the Fediverse? We need people willing to be ambassadors on #P92 who are ready and willing to evangelize the rest of the Fediverse. Folks like @tchambers@indieweb.social are very good at this on Twitter, and I have no doubt that we can do the same with P92. Except this time we'll have the benefit of federation already happening 😉
Now if there's one thing I've learned about the growth of the Fediverse it's that bad corporate decisions pay dividends. We've already experienced waves of migration from Tumblr, Twitter, and Reddit. And I have no doubt that it's only a matter of time before Meta makes another corporate mistake -- as they tend to do.
In which case, we need to strike fast. When another Cambridge Analytica happens, we need to remind everyone on Meta about the lobby servers that are on standby, and ready to take them on. Unlike previous migrations, let's not be unprepared for this. Let's be especially prepared since Meta plans to join the Fediverse.
Finally, we need more devs. Specifically, we need devs willing to build innovative server and client software that takes aim at Meta. And to do that, we need to support the devs that currently exist -- show evergreen devs pondering whether they should invest here that we, as a community, are appreciative of our current devs.
If you like #Mastodon, #Calckey, #Kbin, #Friendica, etc., it's important that you open up your hearts as well as your wallets and fund the next stage of Fediverse development.
This will take a lot of work. But if you want to fight Meta, challenge their dominance of social media, this is what must be done.
Personally, I'm hyped about the future of the Fediverse -- regardless of whether Meta eventually lives to tell the tale.
Calling the situation as fragmented or duplicate is unfair for these existing groups/communities/magazines (whichever word you want to use), because they were here first and already well-established.
Putting all your eggs in one basket is a recipe for disaster. We already experienced that when Guppe went offline for almost a week, and almost permanently shutdown if the financial goal was not met. And that's just one example, we've witnessed instances disappearing for years, communities destroyed overnight.
The lesson we should've learned by now is this: redundancy of communities/groups/magazines spread through out the fediverse through different instances is vital for the continuation of discussions. If one instance goes down, there are other existing communities/groups already in other instances. We can minimise the disruption that such a situation can cause. This is important for those users who rely on groups for content, instead of following every single user.
Instead of looking at it as fragmentation, which is very negative in this context, look at it as redundancy and continuation. There are a lot of ways for the free instance you are using, or hosting yourself, to suddenly disappear.
@Fediverse News Some of the projects in the #Fediverse that offer #groups or #forums have #test groups which come in handy if you want to test the compatibility of the project you're using (or developing) with that particular other project.
I am not aware of test forums on #Friendica, #Hubzilla and #Streams, though. If they exist, maybe you can name them in the comments.
If they don't exist, I think it'd be worth creating them so that developers of other projects can test the compatibility of their projects with the old #FederatedSocialWeb guard and its most recent offspring without spamming existing forums.
Is there someone who can help me about #friendica? I'm kinda hopeless 🌚
Basically I can't open the settings of a forum account of mine on venera.social, all I get is a "Forbidden" alert. The thing is Friendica is a bit weird to me so I literally don't know how to reach the admins
I just had a bit of a look at kbin.social and I have to say, kbin looks really impressive!
If you've never heard of kbin, it's a fediverse platform specifically focusing on groups. Broadly speaking, similar to lemmy, the goal is to create a fediverse take on the reddit experience. However, kbin also integrates fediverse groups like gup.pe, chirp and friendica groups, and that is a killer feature as far as I'm concerned!
We've been running a lemmy instance for a few months now, but it might be time to look at spinning up our own kbin instance too!
Point blank, a mass Fediblock isn't going to work with #Meta.
The cold truth is that people will use #Barcelona whether it federates or not. Even if it fails, Barcelona will probably have more users out of the gate than almost every project save Mastodon. Hell, it will probably eclipse #Bluesky too.
And even if you convince every server to defederate -- which you won't -- this will not be a PR coup for the Fediverse. Newspaper headlines won't blare "Fediverse successfully resists Meta." Instead, they will probably follow @gruber@mastodon.social take with "Open source zealots complain that an open protocol is open."
Again, as I've said countless times, I'm not saying you should federate with Barcelona or any Meta-owned property. If you want, defederate. The joy of the Fediverse is freedom of association.
But a mass Fediblock doesn't solve a few important problems with Meta, and perhaps makes them worse.
The most critical problem is that Meta users need to migrate away from Meta-owned social networks. Until now, a migration path has simply been unfeasible to most. But when Barcelona gets launched, it is possible that many of them will become aware of a greater Fediverse.
How to build that awareness? By interacting with them through services beyond Barcelona.
This approach works. I've interacted with many Mastodon users through services beyond Mastodon, and this has resulted in adoption of other Fediverse software. #Calckey is a case in point.
However, there's a bigger problem concerning Meta: Fediverse replacements for Meta-owned social networks aren't getting mass adoption. And it's not because these apps aren't good.
#Pixelfed is an #Instagram replacement. It is also one of the slickest apps on the Fediverse. Yet, Pixelfed only has 150,000 registered accounts.
#Friendica is a #Facebook replacement. It's been around since 2010. It is a mature product that does many things very well, but Friendica only has 17,000 registered accounts.
The software is great but we are failing to effectively market the Fediverse beyond Mastodon. Now I'm trying my darnedest to change this, and so are many people. But facts are facts. Fediverse alternatives to Meta are a blip on the radar.
Refusing to federate with Barcelona won't change this. How do I know?
Because we don't federate now, and the status quo remains intact.
Meanwhile, Meta is practically gifting Pixelfed and Friendica an opportunity for federation, and it would be foolish to not consider broader implications.
How is it that more people aren't considering this opportunity?
Dare I say that most people -- including devs -- suffer from myopia concerning what the Fediverse is. The Fediverse is not Mastodon, and it is wrong to view the Fediverse solely through the eyes of Mastodon.
And I'll go further: by focusing Barcelona on text, I suspect that Meta is likewise making the same mistake of viewing the Fediverse as a "Twitter killer".
What they may not be considering is that the Fediverse might be a "Meta killer" too. And connecting Barcelona to the Fediverse is opening a can of worms Meta hasn't entirely considered yet.
If Barcelona is indeed text-based, what will happen when a Barcelona user encounters Pixelfed and asks, "Why does this post show reels? And why can't I do the same?"
Believe me, this is the kind of content that triggers migration.
We need to think bigger than Fediblock. Yes, for your own mental health and safety, you may not want to federate with Barcelona. However, there needs to also be a means for Barcelona users to encounter content outside Barcelona.
Perhaps there needs to be "lobby" servers that help Barcelona users enter the greater Fediverse -- helping them make the switch beyond Meta.
I have multiple #Fediverse accounts across many platforms. While I find #Friendica to be the most robust and most #FeatureRich, I find #GNUsocial to be the most #fun. I just wish I could motivate myself to get around to setting up my own instance. !sns
There was a really great thread in the @helpers@friendi.ca forum the other day about this topic social.yl.ms/display/e18176ef-… If I want to find anything you wrote about search I can search +@lohang@mastodon.social +search and find everything that exists is on this server that you wrote about search. Based on this thread sounds like #friendica may be the most feature rich #Fediverse platform on this front too. 😀
I'm pretty sure they'll just get this shiny new thing so that instagram users would have a text-based platform as well - as they can only share images there. The walled garden would come from the fact that you can still see people's images only on Instagram - I understand this will be a text-only app. And what will #Barcelona not have will surely be:
The ability to freely change platforms (i.e. move from #Barcelona to #Mastodon along with your follows and followers, like you can do even on Mastodon currently).
The ability to change to a different server completely, if you dislike the moderation or stuff (I recall @atomicpoet once said with his previous Mastodon account that it will be Federated, a few months ago, not sure if I understood correctly, but I don't think they would want to lose some users and their data to servers they do not control)