identi.ca says 16 years 😊
We are officially old @evan
...and 13 years ago I already started to work on an #OStatus implementation for #WordPress 🙂
identi.ca says 16 years 😊
We are officially old @evan
...and 13 years ago I already started to work on an #OStatus implementation for #WordPress 🙂
> The ability to opt-out of quote posts is also currently planned, which makes it that Mastodon’s implementation will not be compatible with other fediverse implementations of quote posting.
Not surprising. Even before ActivityPub was announced, when the #fediverse was still powered by #OStatus, Mastodon was already breaking compatibility. There were countless of heated debates about almost every Mastodon-only "feature" they implemented that all other Fediverse devs were _forced_ to implement.
And here we are with yet another.
I wonder what will supporters of opt-out or anti-quotepost camp will do if the other Fediverse devs ignore this Mastodon-only "feature", and just continue with the common implementation of quote posts? Are we going to see a new reason for "fediblock", and finally fragment the Fediverse network?
@liaizon Personally, and the way the term was used, since it was first coined, was any software with #OStatus support (later #ActivityPub).
When there were discussions of having a new name, I ran suggestion threads and polls about it, and one suggestion/choice was mycelial, mycelium. I like it so I started using it myself.
By definition:
* A mycelium is a single network.
* A mycelial is a collection of various mycelium.
Adopting it to #SocialWeb:
* The "Fediverse" is one mycelium network.o, based on ActivityPub
* "The Federation" / #diaspora* is another mycelium network.
* #Matrix is a mycelium network.
* #ATproto is another mycelium network.
* #XMPP / #Jabber is a mycelium network.
Together, they are called Mycelial Web. A collection of "decentralised, distributed, federated, and open, network". A subset of the Social Web.
A "sister", if you will, of the Mycelial Web is IRC and e-mail, as examples.
So:
I. Web
A. Social Web
1. IRC
2. E-mail
3. Mycelial Web
* Fediverse/ActivityPub
* ATproto
* diaspora
* Matrix
* XMPP
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This is my first #Mastodon-powered fediverse server. _^
That means, https://aleph.land is one of the first and oldest Mastodon-based #Fediverse instance. _~
I occasionally log in here to keep it alive because this is historical and memorable for me. During this time, and before Mastodon was released, I was running my own Fediverse instance powered by #Hubzilla.
Back then, the protocol of the fediverse was #OStatus, work on #ActivityPub was still about to be started (IIRC).
Today, we have another federated protocol: #ATproto which is powering the #BlueSky network. (Or, is it ATproto network and BlueSky PDS?)
(PS. Max chars in Aleph.Land is 1024; and using the #GlitchSoc fork since it came out.)
#MyFediverseJourney #SocialWeb #OpenSocialWeb #FederatedWeb #FederatedSocialWeb
@bjb @evan Finally, the followup we have all been waiting for for 16 years!
Now up at twit.tv/floss759
Previous interview: twit.tv/floss37
#ActivityPub #Fediverse
#identica #laconica #OStatus
#EvanProdromou #FlossWeekly
Imagine not only confusing #ActivityPub with the #fediverse, but also get corrected in a reply (which I'm quoting right now, thank god for #quoteposts because otherwise I'd be subposting) by the person you're trying to support.
Couldn't be me lol :chuckling_okuu:
#fediversemeta #OStatus
RE: https://akko.erincandescent.net/objects/f04dc9ff-5dc7-4af8-8419-c26e29c1b0c9
Ryan,
How refreshing!
Another bridging mechanism to extend the reach and interoperability with other Fediverse protocols in the #DeSoc space is most welcome, and from the limited analysis I've been able to perform so far this is a novel approach to what some point in the future will find other Fediverse platforms incorporating in their network stacks.
So far, we've got seamless nostr interoperability to add to the other fine protocols such as Diaspora, ZOT, Nomad, OStatus, ActivityPub, and others in the mix. You might also wish to take a look at the repo for Minds to see how they've made seamless integration between the ActivityPub and nostr portions of the #Fediverse as well, and oh, pay no mind to the infantile and disparaging remarks that some small minded folks in this thread have exhibited - they are free to *defederate themselves from the Fediverse at any time.
We've been following withe some enthusiasm your project in the Fediverse-City community and it would be a pleasure to have you participate there. Your insight into the open and public aspects of Fediverse traffic in the #DeSoc world is a testament to the innovation and evolution that is possible in obviating the proprietary, privacy disrespecting, deprecated monolothic silo networks that have sowed so much acrimony and subjugation over the very people whom they seek to quantify as their business products.
You're performing a great service here, feel free to block any miscreants in this thread who don't understand the definition of public.
Also, might I suggest that instead of offering a `#nobridge keyword index, you think about offering a solution as a FEP here?:
https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/
There are a lot of Fediverse platform developers I'm sure that you'll find welcoming, encouraging, and willing to offer assistance in formulating solutions to silence the adolescent juvenile mindsets that have been berating you in this thread for your selfless commitment to the well being of us all.
In the future, the Fediverse that we perceive and interact within will become its own heterogeneous superset of networking protocols to facilitate effortless communications between individual parties regardless of which portions of the Fediverse and their associated protocols implemented. Just like #OStatus has been largely supplanted by ActivityPub, and #ZOT has been superseded by #Nomad, the ActivityPub portion of the Fediverse will also eventually be deprecated and replaced by other stacks that will emerge from the ether of creativity. In the meantime, we'll be bridging between the various protocol stacks, and Bridgy-fed is one of those tools that serves to make that a reality :)
Thank you again, for your selfless contribution to #DeSoc and the Fediverse. it's a fantastic achievement that will serve to benefit many in both the #ATP and #ActivityPub portions of the Fediverse!
#tallship #bridgy #FOSS #Fediverse #DeSoc #innovation
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@Tain05 Welcome to the #Fediverse network!
Firstly, don't forget to post your #intro (with that hashtag), as many fediverse users are following/watching that hashtag. You can also check: https://fediverse.info/explore/people
Secondly, don't be shy in using hashtags in your post and on your profile description. Hashtags will help big time in content discovery.
Now, the technical terms you might encounter, and hopefully won't get confused.
* There are different fediverse software available, for example #Mastodon is the one running on your instance. Each software offers a different set of features.
For example, there is #Firefish (flagship server at https://firefish.social) (bonus: you can attach more than 4 images); there is #Pixelfed (flagship server at https://pixelfed.social) which is geared towards sharing images (you can attach more than 4 images). There is also #BookWyrm (flagship: https://bookwyrm.social), think #GoodReads; and #PeerTube (think #YouTube and #Vimeo); or #Friendica #Hubzilla and #Streams; to mention a few.
* An instance is the same as a server. Each instance is running on one particular fediverse software.
* Different instances are interoperable and interconnected. They do this through the #ActivityPub protocol, which is a #WebStandard managed by the @w3c.
* There are also fediverse group services like https://chirp.social and https://a.gup.pe - Chirp Social allows for moderation but requires creating an admin account. Guppe groups doesn't offer moderation features, however, it is the easiest to create (in case you are interested in starting your own). Both are free-of-charge.
* There are also custom #frontend available. Some instances offer their own custom frontend. This is different from themes/skins. For example, this post, I sent it from the https://phanpy.social frontend for Mastodon. There is also https://trunks.social frontend also for Mastodon. Think #Twitter, but you're accessing it from #TweetDeck.
* There are also mobile apps available. Some can handle different fediverse software, some only made specifically for one particular fediverse software.
For some #history:
* The fediverse was born in 2008-05-18 when Evan Prodromou sent the first message “This is my first post”.
* The term “fediverse” was only coined on 2012-05-25 by Mark Eckenwiler. It was known originally as #Identiverse which was coined by Luke Slater on 2010-03-14.
* The current protocol, ActivityPub, was started on 2014-09-06 and only became a web standard on 2018-01-23. The first protocol was known as #OpenMicroBlogging which later was replaced by #OStatus in 2010-03-04.
For more links and resources:
1: Fediverse software list: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-fediverse-apps
2: Fediverse apps: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-fediverse-clients
3: Fediverse history: https://codeberg.org/ddfon/federated-sns/src/branch/main/fediverse-history.markdown
Again, welcome and glad you joined the Fediverse network!
Let's not forget where we came from.
We Distribute, Part I: The Road to Federation by @deadsuperheroAs a networking project, it was the first public implementation of the communication protocol known as OpenMicroBlogging, which later evolved into the OStatus protocol. These technologies provided a significant building block for future federated networking projects to study and reference.
In terms of how StatusNet was used, it resembled an early version of Twitter, with the added benefit of group functionality. What made it unique is that users on one Laconica server could communicate with users on completely different servers.
#Fediverse #Mastodon #GNUSocial #Pleroma #MissKey #ActivityPub #OStatus
If you are new to the #Fediverse and you see people talking that #Mastodon have 10 million accounts/users…
At least according to #FediDB this is a false assumption.
The 10 million accounts/users is for the **entire** **Fediverse network**.
See: https://fedidb.org
Do not confuse the Fediverse with Mastodon, these are **not** interchangeable.
“Fediverse” is the name of the resulting network that grew out of the #AcitivtyPub (latest) / #OStatus (previous) / #OpenMicroBlogging (first) protocols.
While “Mastodon” is a software brand name / trademark.
It's the same with #Lemmy and #Kbin.
The label #Treadiverse is not interchangeable with the label Fediverse.
“Threadiverse” refers to the link-aggregator type of software like Lemmy and Kbin (there are others, check the Wikipedia list).
Threadiverse is part of the Fediverse network.
Coolness? Awesome!
Happy Birthday Fediverse!
Gestern vor 15 Jahren hat Evan seinen ersten Post ins Fediverse gesendet:
Fifteen years ago tomorrow I published the first post on the fediverse.
https://web.archive.org/web/20080618164355/http://identi.ca/notice/1
It’s still visible on Identi.ca today, although the URL format changed a few years ago, and the redirect plugin stopped working a few years after that.
https://identi.ca/evan/note/Y0QwGyc1QYilqqawkDrQlg
Thanks to everyone who made identi.ca a great place to be, and thanks to everyone who’s expanded the fediverse since then.
Someday soon-ish I’d like to have identi.ca working with ActivityPub. When I get the time for it!
https://cosocial.ca/@evan/110385636249899888
Vor 15 Jahren!!!
Erst laconi.ca/identi.ca dann status.net und jetzt gnu.social.
Von OpenMicroBlogging über OStatus zu ActivityPub.
Es ist faszinierend wie lange sich die Idee gehalten hat und das unabhängig von der Platform und dem Protocol!
Laut dem Screenshot von meinem Profil, bin ich auch schon seit Juni 2008 dabei.
Happy Birthday und mal schauen wie das Fediverse in 15 Jahren aussieht 😉 !
#activitypub #fediverse #identica #openmicroblogging #ostatus #statusnet
Still on #GNUsocial at @bobjonkman@gs.jonkman.ca
#OStatus only, but I'll be upgrading to an #ActivityPub enabled version #AnyDayNow 😁
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