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   georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 06:17:31 JST georgia
   all states should accept refugees without exception
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 06:22:17 JST georgia

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     @genmaicha I think a mix of assimilation and enrichment is good
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     lait accompli (genmaicha@stereophonic.space)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 06:22:19 JST lait accompli

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     @georgia how do you determine who is a refugee? and how should states treat refugees if they are let in?
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 06:41:42 JST georgia

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     @genmaicha I'm closer to a lazy syndicalist than a communist but I believe in a degree of social welfare and humanitarianism. I dont believe ethnicities are "fundamentally different", at least not in ways that can't be reconciled.
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     lait accompli (genmaicha@stereophonic.space)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 06:41:44 JST lait accompli

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     @georgia I don't think assimilation is always possible, and ethnicities are fundamentally different. it's good to show kindness to the less fortunate, but if a state is managed in such an idealistic way it will fall. it's similar to how communism appeals to our value of fairness but leads to nightmarish results in reality.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 06:43:14 JST georgia

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     @RustyCrab @genmaicha I'm not a neoliberal neoliberals are capitalists and only care about "choice". I am an existentialist though which has a bit of overlap.
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 06:43:15 JST Rusty Crab

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     @georgia @genmaicha damn i didnt think there were any neolibs under 50 left
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     grillchen (grillchen@brot.eus)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 06:46:26 JST grillchen

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     @georgia i think it is about decency. supporting people who are less fortunate or have an issue is always important. we are in this together after all.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:17:10 JST georgia

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     @grillchen divine love (prema) is the highest virtue of all and benevolence/loving-kindness (maitri), active compassion (karuna), vicarious joy (mudita), and equal-mindedness (upeksha) all extend from it. cultivating all these is crucial on every viable spiritual path.
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     Qadse Sanur Qut ibn Quaadibz :catsader: (nerthos@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:18:28 JST Qadse Sanur Qut ibn Quaadibz :catsader:

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     @georgia Let the states where an overwhelming majority of people support that take in refugees, and the ones where the majority don't support it not take any. Respect what people want and let them deal with the consequences of their decisions.
     
     People who support taking in refugees should directly interact with them and contribute to their needs however. No champagne socialism.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:18:28 JST georgia

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     @nerthos agree about champagne socialism
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     Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:19:12 JST Christi Junior

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     @georgia Sure, as long as they're White refugees from South Africa.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:19:12 JST georgia

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     @ChristiJunior sorry about your rich white farmers
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:21:00 JST georgia

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     @nerthos when I was employed I gave charitably, mostly to animals and freetard causes though
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     Qadse Sanur Qut ibn Quaadibz :catsader: (nerthos@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:21:01 JST Qadse Sanur Qut ibn Quaadibz :catsader:

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     @georgia And yet you're unemployed, and thus unable to contribute to mantain refugees, but still demand they are let in.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:24:57 JST georgia

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     @ChristiJunior "Christi" and yet so un-christlike
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     Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:24:58 JST Christi Junior

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     @georgia Sorry about your mud monkey rapists.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:29:14 JST georgia

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     @ChristiJunior okay that actually explains a lot then
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     Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:29:15 JST Christi Junior

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     @georgia I literally mention that I'm an Atheist in my profile description, dipshit,
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:36:22 JST georgia

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     @Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior I havent read titus or much of the Pauline epistles but ive recently read the gospels, acts, the johanine literature, and james. I ask you, is whatever quotation you cite more important than "love one another as I have loved you?"
     
     john 13:34-35
     "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
     
     By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another."
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     Goalkeeper (goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:36:23 JST Goalkeeper

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     Titus 1:14-16 cunt.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:40:14 JST georgia

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     @Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior the commandment is love as Christ loved. if you think Christ only loved people who werent sinners youre reading a different bible.
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     Goalkeeper (goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:40:15 JST Goalkeeper

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     Yes, other devout poious Christians and people of Good Character. But of course you take it out of context to mean 75 IQ murderous niggers.

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     Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:40:33 JST Christi Junior

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     @theshortbus @georgia >I'm wracking my brain trying to remember when (if ever) shitlibs cared about verifying someone's refugee status.
     
     When Trump brought in White South African refugees - they suddenly all became extremely strict and distrustful at that point.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:40:33 JST georgia

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     @ChristiJunior @theshortbus I think refugee status should be verified unless its incredibly obvious. I dont believe in open borders unless its something the majority wants.
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     Short Bus (theshortbus@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:40:34 JST Short Bus

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     I'm wracking my brain trying to remember when (if ever) shitlibs cared about verifying someone's refugee status. If a nigger shows up at your border claiming to be a refugee, you have to just let him in and give him EBT. He's a nigger, so surely he's fleeing from something horrible.
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     Matty (matty@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:44:19 JST Matty

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     Loving someone !== enabling their actions. Christ was not a hippie.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:44:19 JST georgia

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     @matty @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper this is true but hes delusional by thinking christ only loved people who loved him (were good christians). hateful christians (a religion about Gods love for all mankind) are just as christian as atheist communists.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:52:59 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     In think some people falsely think loves means letting someone do whatever they want. It's why they think their parents didn't love them.
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     Matty (matty@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:53:00 JST Matty

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     Christ does not love everyone. And Christianity is about God's love of mankind as much as it is His repudiation of man's ways. Were it not for our stupidity, we'd never have fallen away, and we'd never have had to *be* saved in the first place.
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     mjdigspigs (mjdigspigs@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:53:00 JST mjdigspigs

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     That's deep, thanks matty🙏
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     mjdigspigs (mjdigspigs@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:53:00 JST mjdigspigs

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     I forgot the preach it Brother part.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:57:51 JST georgia

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     @Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior @matty jesus ate and forgave criminals and publicans. jesus said that you should love like he loves. you harp on a single insignificant quotation to argue that paul, who is not divine, who was engaging in a manner of polemic, would say that unbelievers are not worthy of your love.
     
     here's a paul quote I just found.
     
     "And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity." Corinthians 13:13.
     
     do you know what charity meant? it doesnt mean "giving money to the poor". it means "love". the original word is agape, which is the greek word for divine love. if you look at any concordance agape is the same love that God showed for humanity by dying on the cross. paul literally says that the commandment to (divinely) love one another is more important than faith here. https://biblehub.com/greek/26.htm
     
     "Rather, it denotes a holy, self‐giving disposition that originates in God, is displayed perfectly in Jesus Christ, and is implanted in believers by the Holy Spirit. The frequency of the term in the writings of John and Paul underscores its centrality to apostolic theology and ethics."
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     Goalkeeper (goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:57:52 JST Goalkeeper

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     Titus 1:15

     15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and UNBELIEVING is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

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     Goalkeeper (goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 07:57:53 JST Goalkeeper

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     Also he condemned nonbelievers, REPEATEDLY.

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     DMA (dma@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:00:21 JST DMA

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     love is patience and kind. Not greedy or demanding. that is selfishness.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:00:21 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     > Love is waiting and doing nothing. It's pure inaction.
     
     Wrong. You could beat the fuck out of someone who did something wrong and the motivation can be love.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:06:35 JST georgia

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     @Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior @matty if God only loved people who repented or if He only loved Christians He would not be all-loving. God showers grace on the virtuous and the sinners alike, and Jesus advises christians to be like God in that regard.
     
     "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.  For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." Matthew 5:44-48
     
     do you know what Jesus says of people who break his commandments given in his sermon? he says "they will be called least in the kingdom of heaven".
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     Goalkeeper (goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:06:36 JST Goalkeeper

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     Yes, to people that sincerely repent and accept Christ in their hearts. Stop twisting the Lord's words and repent.

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     King_Noticer (king_noticer@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:07:09 JST King_Noticer

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     Also love, especially Christian love, does not mean “uncritically let everyone into your house and let them have their way with your wife”
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:07:09 JST georgia

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     @King_Noticer @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @SuperSnekFriend thats not what helping refugees means lol
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     ?uper?nekFriend ? (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:07:10 JST ?uper?nekFriend ?

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     @georgia @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper
     The commandment given at the Last Supper is to love other true Christians as Christ loved us true believers through His suffering, death, and sacrifice on the Cross.
     
     He has already made known what He thinks of the reprobate:
     "For forty years I loathed that generation
     and said, 'They are a people who go astray in their heart,
     and they have not known my ways.'
     Therefore I swore in my wrath,
     'They shall not enter my rest [i.e. most of the Israelites that originally left Egypt went to Hell].'" (Psalm 95:10-11)
     "But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me." (Luke 19:27)
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:08:54 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Exactly. And the means aren't necessarily limited. It's a dance, not a list of rules.
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     captainslow (captainslow@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:08:55 JST captainslow

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     Love is willing the good of another.
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     captainslow (captainslow@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:11:54 JST captainslow

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     sometimes one even gets it wrong.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:13:29 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Why do I have a sudden urge to play doom?
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     Whitewall_Blasphemy (whitewall_blasphemy@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:13:30 JST Whitewall_Blasphemy

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     First song that came to mind.
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     Frondeur (frondeur@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:17:09 JST Frondeur

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     >jesus ate and forgave criminals and publicans...
     
     zombie jesus heresy...
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:17:09 JST georgia

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     @Frondeur @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty lmao woopsie
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     Goalkeeper (goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:20:59 JST Goalkeeper

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     Oh so not everyone. Pilpul harder.

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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:20:59 JST georgia

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     @Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior @matty @Frondeur I never said Jesus forgave everyone I said He loved everyone, which one of you said was wrong lmao.
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     Goalkeeper (goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:21:01 JST Goalkeeper

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     They never tell you he forgave those who accepted the salvation he offered and condemned those who cursed him. YOU HAVE TO LOVE EVERYONE.

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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:21:01 JST georgia

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     @Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior @matty @Frondeur he literally forgave the people who crucified Him, except Judas
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:21:46 JST georgia

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     @SuperSnekFriend @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty youre really desperate for an excuse to disregard Gods commandments
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     ?uper?nekFriend ? (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:21:47 JST ?uper?nekFriend ?

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     @georgia @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty
     Quick question: did God (who includes Christ a God the Son) ever withhold rain from anyone and did God (who includes Christ a God the Son) ever give too much rain to anyone?
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:22:14 JST georgia

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     @Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior @matty @Frondeur I havent been cruel to you but you have been cruel to me. who acts like a better Christian?
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     Goalkeeper (goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:22:15 JST Goalkeeper

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     Get you fucking kike Pilpul out of here you disingenuous cunt.

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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:25:20 JST georgia

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     @SuperSnekFriend @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty youre engaged in sophistry for an evil purpose (to not obey Jesus). my answer is: "your father is perfect, therefore be like your father who is perfect".
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     ?uper?nekFriend ? (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:25:21 JST ?uper?nekFriend ?

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     @georgia @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty
     Answer the question.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:28:31 JST georgia

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     • Vivi Nella Verita
     @verita84 @Goalkeeper @matty @Frondeur @ChristiJunior God can forgive everyone, who are you to say who should and shouldnt be forgiven? He is infinitely merciful. I'm not the one supporting unbiblical dogma, you are.
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     Vivi Nella Verita (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:28:32 JST Vivi Nella Verita

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     @Goalkeeper@nicecrew.digital @matty@nicecrew.digital @Frondeur@poa.st @ChristiJunior@detroitriotcity.com @georgia@netzsphaere.xyz
     
     
     Even Jeffrey Dahmer found Christ and can have salvation.
     
     Georgia be like:
     
     Man: " I am a sinner that accepts Christ as my savior"
     
     Jesus: "Love you but sorry lol"
     
     Man: "But the bible says ....."
     
     Jesus: "Sorry, Georgia knows best"

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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:29:14 JST georgia

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     @SuperSnekFriend @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty God never errs. even what seems like an error to mankind is perfect. I answered your question.
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     @georgia @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty
     The perfection of God and His demand for us to be perfect like Him is not what I asked about.
     
     Final chance, answer the question.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 08:32:45 JST georgia

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     @Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior @matty @SuperSnekFriend I'm not projecting at all, anyone who reads this conversation impartially can see that I have conducted myself better than you.
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     Nice projection.

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     > He is infinitely merciful
     
     > *Does infinite mercy killings.*
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     @SuperSnekFriend@poa.st
     
     maybe threading got messed up or I replied to the wrong reply. it was supposed to be a reply to this :

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     When it comes to dealing with the faith, I wish people here come to the topic with the severity and respect it deserves and actually read the threads first. What does this verse have to do with the question I gave Georgia?
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     Like Christ to the Pharisees in Matthew 21, I will say no more and leave you in your arrogant ignorance.
     
     Turn from the ooey-gooey, yippie-hippie, lovey-dovey Enlightenment and liberal "Christ" of your own making, repent, and turn to the real Jesus Christ, who will not spare the unrepentant sinner on Judgement Day.
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     @SuperSnekFriend @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty its funny how you compare yourself to jesus yet you mock the real jesus as "lovey-dovey".
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     @Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior @matty @Frondeur @verita84 what was the question
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     I'm quoting who he said will be forgiven and who won't. Answer Snek's question already.

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     @James_Dixon @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper Jesus isnt just the same as YHVH, YHVH is Jesus. people reap the punishment of their own misdeeds, but never does that mean God does not love them or does not want them to eventually return to Him. God said to love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, yet you hate your enemies. you know what He also said?
     
     "And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me."
     Matthew 25:40-45
     
     All of you are saying "I will not take the stranger in". you condemn the Jews for what they did to Christ their brother but when you do not help the least among you, you do the same to Jesus.
     
     perhaps even worse, some among you, admitted atheists and bound for a terrible afterlife, say "I will take the stranger in solely if he is white". you know what Jesus said? He said your neighbor, who you should love as yourself, is more a samaritan (who had enmity with the jews) than a jewish priest as long as he shows you compassion. and paul said there is neither Jew nor Greek, for all are one in Christ Jesus.
     
     plainly stated the jews of jesuss time were xenophobes, but jesus was not xenophobic. he loved the stranger. do you?
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     > the commandment is love as Christ loved. if you think Christ only loved people who werent sinners youre reading a different bible.
     
     Yes, the word in question is agapate a form of agape, the love God has for us. And Christ is God.
     
     But God's "love" drowned the world, destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, and killed all but one family in Jericho. It allowed the Israelis of the southern kingdom to be dragged off to Babylon in chains and the temple to be destroyed when they abandoned him for other gods. And when he sent his son to guide them back to worshiping him properly and they killed him he allowed the second temple to be destroyed, Jerusalem to be leveled, most of the jews in Judah killed and the remainder scattered to the four winds.
     
     I'm not sure his definition of "love" matches yours.
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     > he literally forgave the people who crucified Him
     
     Yes, he forgave the Romans who crucified him "...for they know not what they do." Did he forgive the Pharisees who were responsible and did know what they were doing?
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     @James_Dixon @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty @Frondeur he didnt just forgive the romans lol. he said "them", meaning the whole multitude.
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     @James_Dixon @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:19. being a christian isnt just about believing jesus died for you, its about following what jesus, perfect God and perfect man, said to do.
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     > do you know what Jesus says of people who break his commandments given in his sermon?
     
     The sermon on the mount wasn't intended as a set of commandments. It was a long exposition of what complying with the law requires of a person. And thus an explanation of why we could never do so and needed Christ's intervention for our salvation.
     
     > he says "they will be called least in the kingdom of heaven".
     
     I have absolutely no problem with actually being the least in heaven, not just called such, as long as I and my loved ones are there.
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     Too much CRUSHING DESPAIR every time I lost all of those fucking rings. Still better than Mario Bros, tho.
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     I definitely watched that, it was outstanding. I never watched Sonic (didn't like the game).
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     >didn't like the game...
     
     what's wrong...too fast for you???
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     Oh man, Batman TAS was surprisingly high-quality for the first few dozen episodes

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     Never saw it. What was dark?
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     The only place where “chili” by itself implies beans, is on a chili dog. Otherwise it’s beef cooked with chili powder.

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     You made me remember when my babysitter used to make chili dogs in the 90s just in time for the sonic cartoon.
     She'd make a big deal about the Batman TAS being too dark for children, but it's clearly Sonic that did more damage to my generation.
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     I'm from the Midwest so just assumed beans were supposed to be in Chili. 4 years in Texas taught me different. Addition by subtracting. Hint hint America!
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     Chili without beans is just meat soup. I've always had chili with beans so it was quite a shock when she started screaming and crying.
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     My ex would flip out about chili with beans the way people flip out about pineapple on pizza
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     @Shadowbroker2135 @UnityOstara @ForbiddenDreamer @Frondeur @clubsodie @Goalkeeper @ChristiJunior @georgia @matty
     Your ex was right to flip out about the beans in chilli.
     
     Shoulda wifed that one.
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     It's French Canadian for soda, not to be confused with pop
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     The pop/soda debate is second to chili with or without beans.
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     i forgot or never knew what osti means...
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     Just say osti and be done with it
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     He was without sin
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     we have to love the sinner
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     but do we have to eat the sinner...
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     > Jesus isnt just the same as YHVH, YHVH is Jesus.
     
     I'm an American, I don't speak Hebrew. The English word is Jehovah.
     
     > God said to love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
     
     He said that was what the law required of us. He knew we couldn't do it.
     
     > yet you hate your enemies.
     
     On those rare occasion where I do it's a sin which can be forgiven.
     
     > All of you are saying "I will not take the stranger in".
     
     I will give the stranger of my excess in the manner I judge best when my own are taken care of, as 1 Timothy 5:8 says I should:
     
     "But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel."
     
     My home and land are not excess.
     
     > you condemn the Jews for what they did to Christ their brother but when you do not help the least among you, you do the same to Jesus.
     
     I'm perfectly willing to provide charity to the "least among us". But foreign invaders are not "among us". And they can receive my charity in the own lands.
     
     > you know what Jesus said? He said your neighbor, who you should love as yourself, is more a samaritan (who had enmity with the jews) than a jewish priest as long as he shows you compassion.
     
     And you deliberately misconstrue the clear meaning of the text.
     
     > and paul said there is neither Jew nor Greek, for all are one in Christ Jesus.
     
     He also said there is neither male nor female in Christ, so I guess all the Christians died out in the first century, huh? Again, you misstate the clear meaning of the text.
     
     > he loved the stranger. do you?
     
     I'm willing to give of my excess to the stranger, just as the good Samaritan did. I'm not willing to take him into my home or homeland. That doesn't give him what's best for him.
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     >The English word is Jehovah.
     
     Jehovah wasnt how the name is pronounced though. YHVH is a direct latinization of the ineffable name. we dont know the vowels.
     
     >He said that was what the law required of us. He knew we couldn't do it.
     
     the sermon on the mount wasnt a mere expounding of the existing law, it was a summation of jesus's teachings which radically reformed the law. jesus never spoke empty words, when you say of all his moral precepts "he knew we couldnt follow his words" you are saying his teachings were meant for an audience of no one. this is a protestant invention, that jesus is solely meant to be "believed" and not meant to be actually followed. love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you means exactly that.
     
     >I will give the stranger of my excess in the manner I judge best when my own are taken care of, as 1 Timothy 5:8 says I should:
     "But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel."
     
     first off, these are the words of paul, not jesus, jesus said to take the stranger in and this doesnt abrogate jesus. paul is just saying you are first responsible for your own, which was historically interpreted not in the manner of a nuclear family home, but to mean your distant relations and friends as well, provided they were believers.
     
     https://biblehub.com/commentaries/1_timothy/5-8.htm
     
     "The words "his own," refer to those who are naturally dependent on him, whether living in his own immediate family or not. There may be many distant relatives naturally dependent on our aid, besides those who live in our own house"
     
     "The circle of those for whose support and sustenance a Christian was responsible is here enlarged: not merely is the fairly prosperous man who professes to love Christ, bound to do his best for his nearest relations, such as his mother and grandmother, but St. Paul says 'he must assist those of his own house,' in which term relatives who are much more distant are included, and even dependents connected with the family who had fallen into poverty and distress."
     
     theres nothing objectionable about this, its your interpretation of it which abrogates christ which is objectionable:
     
     >My home and land are not excess.
     
     you are interpreting your entire country as the same as your own household, which is an error. God in the old testament told the israelites to welcome strangers. “the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.” Leviticus 19:34
     https://biblehub.com/commentaries/leviticus/19-34.htm I would read the entire commentary on this verse if I were you.
     
     jesus's words were similarly clear: take in the stranger. that means into your own home if necessary, and when I have my own home I will take in strangers if I have the room. I promise you this.
     
     >I'm perfectly willing to provide charity to the "least among us". But foreign invaders are not "among us". And they can receive my charity in the own lands.
     
     immigrants aren't invaders, this is dehumanizing language. most immigration violation in the US is overstaying a legal welcome. the meaning of the stranger among you hasnt changed since Leviticus. do you give charity to the needy in other countries? I have.
     
     >He also said there is neither male nor female in Christ, so I guess all the Christians died out in the first century, huh?
     
     this is a sophistic imitation of reductio ad absurdum. paul meant that jewish and greek believers were equal, equal in Gods promise and equal in the church, so its only logical that you should also treat Jew and Greek alike in friendship, and likewise you yourself should not have preferences for Jew or Greek, for Israelite and stranger, for authorized and unauthorized immigrant, provided the person has shown you no unfriendliness.
     
     >I'm willing to give of my excess to the stranger, just as the good Samaritan did. I'm not willing to take him into my home or homeland. That doesn't give him what's best for him.
     
     giving in excess is good, not taking refugees into your "homeland" is unbiblical. its your opinion that its not what's best for him, its Gods opinion that the needy ought to be provided for when they entreat you.
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     @James_Dixon @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty @Frondeur just want to say that I appreciate you engaging with me in a serious manner instead of being actively cruel and just calling me a jew or saying refugees should be murdered. I dont believe this interpretation though, that the jews (besides Judas and others who knew jesus personally) all knew exactly what they were doing and that jesus only referred to the romans. they didnt believe that jesus was God, if they knew He was God they likely wouldnt have been involved in his death. many of the romans were doing what they thought was right and snuffing out the movement of a man who many thought was a dissident king, and many of the jews were doing what they thought was right and snuffing out what they thought was a man who committing a grave sin by claiming to be I AM, God. in the bible unintentional sins are treated much more leniently than intentional sins, and jesus saying "forgive them father" is an extension of that. of course, for judas, he was not only betraying a friend, but committing to death the man who he knew to be God himself, holy and perfectly sinless.
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     > he didnt just forgive the romans lol. he said "them", meaning the whole multitude.
     
     No. He was explicit. "...for they know not what they do." The Pharisees knew exactly what they were doing. Saying otherwise is a lie.
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     @James_Dixon @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper disagree with most of this but I'll make this quicker, this boils down to your last point that immigrants are "lying thieves". obviously lying thieves shouldnt be given much, so you dont believe in charitable attitudes towards them. but youre wrong, most immigrants are peaceful and just want to provide for their house, just like you.
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     > Jehovah wasnt how the name is pronounced though. YHVH is a direct latinization of the ineffable name. we dont know the vowels.
     
     Exactly, we have no idea how it was pronounced. And as I said, I don't speak Hebrew. The English word is Jehovah.
     
     > when you say of all his moral precepts "he knew we couldnt follow his words" you are saying his teachings were meant for an audience of no one.
     
     If you're going to lie about what I'm saying this is going to be short conversation.
     
     > first off, these are the words of paul, not jesus
     
     2 Timothy 3:16
     "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"
     
     > paul is just saying you are first responsible for your own, which was historically interpreted not in the manner of a nuclear family home, but to mean your distant relations and friends as well, provided they were believers.
     
     Which is exactly what I said.
     
     > its your interpretation of it which abrogates christ which is objectionable:
     
     Again with the christ. My interpretation of it is correct.
     
     > you are interpreting your entire country as the same as your own household, which is an error.
     
     You just said the verse didn't refer to only my own household but to my extended kin. Thus, not in error.
     
     > I would read the entire commentary on this verse if I were you.
     
     Yes, you would.
     
     > jesus's words were similarly clear: take in the stranger. that means into your own home if necessary, and when I have my own home I will take in strangers if I have the room. I promise you this.
     
     Except he never says that.
     
     > immigrants aren't invaders,
     
     Yes, they are. This has been undeniably demonstrated over the past 60 years.
     
     > this is dehumanizing language.
     
     Too fucking bad.
     
     > do you give charity to the needy in other countries? I have.
     
     I've never had enough for more than my own kin.
     
     > this is a sophistic imitation of reductio ad absurdum.
     
     Which is perfectly appropriate because your usage of the incomplete verse is absurd.
     
     > paul meant that jewish and greek believers were equal, equal in Gods promise and equal in the church,
     
     Which is not what you're saying as you proceed to demonstrate.
     
     > and likewise you yourself should not have preferences for Jew or Greek, for Israelite and stranger, for authorized and unauthorized immigrant, provided the person has shown you no unfriendliness.
     
     See what I mean.
     
     > giving in excess is good, not taking refugees into your "homeland" is ?unbiblical.
     
     And again you lie.
     
     > its Gods opinion that the needy ought to be provided for when they entreat you.
     
     The needy you're talking about are lying thieves. God opines accordingly.
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     @fkq1q2r2 @alpha60 I dont want anyone to starve thats kinda my whole point. and I believe that that God exhibits both perfect justice and perfect mercy.
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     Weak sauce my friend. You're either a new Christian or from some feminized demonination. It does not say, "God is only love, no judgment, only mercy, no wrath, only grace, no justice" anywhere in the Bible. Yawhew, the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, is more than just Love. Loving someone doesn't mean we let them into our home and eat the food off our table so our own children starve.

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     @James_Dixon @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty @Frondeur I'll not address your initial threat to me with more than this, but I must direct you to acts 3:17 "Yet now, brethren, I know that you did it in ignorance, as did also your rulers". jesus forgave the jews, except obviously judas, who certainly resides in hellfire.
     
     your statement that the romans were uniquely ignorant and thus blameless is unrealistic. you know pilate was said in luke to have mixed the blood of murdered jews with their animal sacrifices right? all contemporary sources about him show he was a very evil man. you are interpreting the romans as upright but thats just not true. they were a powerful empire, they were not likely browbeat into executing anyone. the roman guards humiliated and beat jesus, the soldiers divided his clothes. pilate is only made partly sympathetic in the bible to appeal to the new roman converts according to nearly all historians, and I'm interested in what happened to the actual jesus, a man who lived, died, and was ressurected.
     
     as far as the guilt of the pharisees goes, most jews werent lawmakers and scribes, but were lay-believers.
     
     here's more reading for you:
     
     https://biblehub.com/q/Why_did_Jesus_forgive_His_crucifiers_2.htm
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     > just want to say that I appreciate you engaging with me in a serious manner instead of being actively cruel and just calling me a jew
     
     Give me time.
     
     > or saying refugees should be murdered.
     
     You are aware that the only "refugees" we should accept are from Mexico and Canada, are you not? That's the international definition of who should accept refugees. The last I saw neither Mexico nor Canada were overflowing with people who had to flee for their lives.
     
     All others have the option of leaving peaceably or, yes, they can be shot.
     
     > I dont believe this interpretation though, that the jews (besides Judas and others who knew jesus personally) all knew exactly what they were doing and that jesus only referred to the romans.
     
     I don't care what you believe. You've already demonstrated your interpretation of Scripture is not to be trusted.
     
     > they didnt believe that jesus was God,
     
     They had no excuse for not believing, especially after he himself told them he was (before Abraham was, I am). They knew exactly what he meant.
     
     > if they knew He was God they likely wouldnt have been involved in his death.
     
     And if they knew but refused to believe they would have done exactly what they did.
     
     > many of the romans were doing what they thought was right
     
     The Roman soldiers were following lawful orders. Pilate was doing what he thought was right and avoiding a revolt that would have killed hundreds or thousands of jews and possibly dozens of Roman soldiers.
     
     Which is why Christ forgave them.
     
     > and snuffing out the movement of a man who many thought was a dissident king,
     
     Pilate knew better. But he didn't want a revolt on his hands, see above.
     
     > This is f and many of the jews were doing what they thought was right and snuffing out what they thought was a man who committing a grave sin by claiming to be I AM, God.
     
     In spite of his meeting every single one of the biblical requirements for meeting that claim. Requirements they knew and knew he had met. They knew. They refused to believe anyway.
     
     > in the bible unintentional sins are treated much more leniently than intentional sins, and jesus saying "forgive them father" is an extension of that. of course, for judas,
     
     His crucifixion was not "unintentional". They carefully planned it out and had the Romans do it because the feared the populace if they killed him themselves.
     
     > he was not only betraying a friend, but committing to death the man who he knew to be God himself, holy and perfectly sinless.
     
     The same arguments you make for the Pharisees could also apply to him. They knew as much as he did. Yet he was not forgiven.
     
     Whether he would have been if he had repented and asked is another matter.
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     @gucciloafers @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty @Frondeur @James_Dixon except I love jesus and have nothing but respect for people who follow him
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     >it's pic related: the thread
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     @James_Dixon @ChristiJunior @Goalkeeper @matty @Frondeur
     
     >But Judas was no more guilty than the Pharisees who paid him, which is one of two reasons I don't accept that as the case. The other being what Jesus told Pilate in John 19:11.
     
     I mean, youre disregarding what peter said in acts, he said that the Israelite leaders were also ignorant. I dont believe that the chief priests (who weren't pharisees but were probably saducees, I could be wrong though) who paid judas were quite as guilty as he, and i dont think many commentators would argue this, judas was unique in his degree of guilt and of sin, though they were certainly guilty also. judas intimately knew jesus and was treated with divine love by him. he had no excuses.
     
     >My statement is that they had no idea Jesus was the Son of God.
     
     neither did the sanhedrin. jesus more or less told him he was in the synoptics, but they didnt believe and they werent in the intimate position judas was in to know this. I still think this constitutes ignorance.
     
     >You are judging evil by modern standards. He was a man of his time and a pagan.
     
     murdering worshippers of God and mixing the blood of sacrifices with their blood is evil, period. its strange of a christian to be morally relativist here.
     
     >Most jews accepted Christ after the resurrection. The Pharisees and their ilk didn't.
     
     many many hellenized jews converted to christianity, actually, including many pharisees.
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     > I'll not address your initial threat to me
     
     You have a strange view of what constitutes a threat.
     
     > jesus forgave the jews, except obviously judas, who certainly resides in hellfire.
     
     But Judas was no more guilty than the Pharisees who paid him, which is one of two reasons I don't accept that as the case. The other being what Jesus told Pilate in John 19:11.
     
     > your statement that the romans were uniquely ignorant and thus blameless is unrealistic.
     
     My statement is that they had no idea Jesus was the Son of God. They didn't even believe in his Father.
     
     > you know pilate was said in luke to have mixed the blood of murdered jews with their animal sacrifices right? all contemporary sources about him show he was a very evil man.
     
     You are judging evil by modern standards. He was a man of his time and a pagan.
     
     > you are interpreting the romans as upright but thats just not true. they were a powerful empire, they were not likely browbeat into executing anyone.
     
     At the very least Pilate would have been removed from his post if he had allowed an uprising he could have easily prevented. At worst he would have been responsible for the deaths of dozen or hundreds of Roman soldiers and possibly executed. In either case he would have failed in his duty to Caesar. It was an easy decision for him to make.
     
     > the roman guards humiliated and beat jesus,
     
     The were ordered to scourge him. What do you think that involves, exactly?
     
     > the soldiers divided his clothes.
     
     As was their right under Roman law.
     
     > pilate is only made partly sympathetic in the bible to appeal to the new roman converts according to nearly all historians,
     
     The Gospel wasn't written to appeal to new Roman converts. That was Paul's job. And Pilate doesn't come across as sympathetic unless you understand his role as a Roman and what it involved. In which case he is more to be pitied than sympathized with. He was trapped by circumstances far beyond his control. That's why Christ didn't blame him.
     
     > as far as the guilt of the pharisees goes, most jews werent lawmakers and scribes, but were lay-believers.
     
     Most jews accepted Christ after the resurrection. The Pharisees and their ilk didn't.