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    James_Dixon (james_dixon@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 15-May-2026 12:07:05 JSTJames_DixonJames_Dixon
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    • georgia
    • Matty
    • Christi Junior
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    > I'll not address your initial threat to me

    You have a strange view of what constitutes a threat.

    > jesus forgave the jews, except obviously judas, who certainly resides in hellfire.

    But Judas was no more guilty than the Pharisees who paid him, which is one of two reasons I don't accept that as the case. The other being what Jesus told Pilate in John 19:11.

    > your statement that the romans were uniquely ignorant and thus blameless is unrealistic.

    My statement is that they had no idea Jesus was the Son of God. They didn't even believe in his Father.

    > you know pilate was said in luke to have mixed the blood of murdered jews with their animal sacrifices right? all contemporary sources about him show he was a very evil man.

    You are judging evil by modern standards. He was a man of his time and a pagan.

    > you are interpreting the romans as upright but thats just not true. they were a powerful empire, they were not likely browbeat into executing anyone.

    At the very least Pilate would have been removed from his post if he had allowed an uprising he could have easily prevented. At worst he would have been responsible for the deaths of dozen or hundreds of Roman soldiers and possibly executed. In either case he would have failed in his duty to Caesar. It was an easy decision for him to make.

    > the roman guards humiliated and beat jesus,

    The were ordered to scourge him. What do you think that involves, exactly?

    > the soldiers divided his clothes.

    As was their right under Roman law.

    > pilate is only made partly sympathetic in the bible to appeal to the new roman converts according to nearly all historians,

    The Gospel wasn't written to appeal to new Roman converts. That was Paul's job. And Pilate doesn't come across as sympathetic unless you understand his role as a Roman and what it involved. In which case he is more to be pitied than sympathized with. He was trapped by circumstances far beyond his control. That's why Christ didn't blame him.

    > as far as the guilt of the pharisees goes, most jews werent lawmakers and scribes, but were lay-believers.

    Most jews accepted Christ after the resurrection. The Pharisees and their ilk didn't.
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