You sound like every divorced guy I know. If there's no physical attraction, there's no relationship. You might as well date a guy of you think it doesn't matter.
I will say that in this case, she shouldn't be entitled to half his income on a short marriage where her standard of living was subpar for the entirety of the marriage. If state law allows that and she attempts to take that, fuck her.
separation of physical attraction and mental attraction is an extension of the gn*stic viewpoint that the mind, soul and body can be separated out into discrete components rather than taken as a unitary whole!
big tits are a sign from God that we must not ignore!!
Not a real question. To act like it's not a unified whole and that both matter is ignorance. If you're inadequate in bed, you're gonna have problems. Women and men both have needs. Get in there and make her yours.
Absolutely. I feel that a lot of people discount the importance of sex. When my wife hears about someone getting divorced, her first comment is usually "they should have fucked more."
And when I see statistics suggesting that the average length and punctuation of intercourse is 8 minutes every 3 days, all I can think is that there are a lot of guys not pulling there weight. Everyone has to get a cookie.
Yes. Sex is important for bonding, and can reduce a lot of perceptions of small things that can lead to big fights / being annoyed / looking elsewhere, etc. But you can't be a chump about it. If you're there doing the thing, you gotta get the job done.
Fuck her like it’s your last fuck. And hers. Fuck her so good, so hard, so wantonly, so profligately that she is left a quivering, sparking mass of shaking flesh and sex fluids. Drain her of everything, then drain her some more. Kiss her all over, make love to her all night, and hold her close in the morning. Own her body, own her gratitude, own her love. If you don’t know how, learn to give her squirting orgasms.
He thinks that because 8 min is not long enough, & 3 days better mean you're outta town 😆
Jokes aside, you're not wrong there, either. Precarity is sometimes as simple as mystery, or his own passions, though. Women definitely don't respect men bending everything to them, but they also don't want abandoned physically. Either gender, at the end of the day, can think things about the other is shitty or shallow, but they're probably not going to change those things that are often biologically wired...
>all I can think is that there are a lot of guys not pulling their weight. Why do you assume it's only the men?
Having known several guys who are divorced I find that it's usually the women who are the problem. It's always the same thing, once a woman feels she has her man locked down she stops trying and views sex like a work obligation.
Most women do not feel strong attachment to a man if there is no precarity, the moment she feels he's given all of himself to her she loses both interest and respect.
The one guy I know who initiated the divorce did so because he felt like his wife didn't love him anymore and there was nothing he could do to change that. He worked out, took time away from work to be with her, planned out dates, and so on. She just got fat and took everything he did for granted until he couldn't take it anymore.
We can't all be top1% or even top10%, there's not enough space at the top, unless you're a delusional commie.
Pareto or similar distribution is how it works, why be a dick to "under achievers", there are the drones and in the heat the pinnacle of the pyramid brings it's the best they can do. Imagine them not pulling shit, not to mention even a fraction of their weight.
It doesn't matter if physical attraction and fucking are important parts of marriage and which gender is wrecking things more. You should not be able to divorce for anything like that.
The entire west coast of the US used to follow community tradition.
The east coast followed the anglo separate property tradition.
It's very mixed on the west coast now due to population change though.
The problem even in this discussion flows from differences re rules, which anglos love — women must be x or y. They must do a or b.
Spanish societies, which anglos see as disordered and rule lacking due to community traditions, view the situation otherwise. Women aren't bound by rules per se. Good ones fill roles.
Tl;dr. Anglos want to force the thing into a form via public law and contract. Rules precede people. Spaniards do it via community and ex-communication. People can do what they want, subject to the whims of others.
I dunno. That's really not the Spanish view of marriage. Women tend to the homestead, men provisions. It's why we had a theory of community property and even despite the catholic prohibition on divorce.
Both are necessary to build. The issue is whether each fills their proper role.
The sad fact is that if women would no longer get half of the Mans assets, not only home but also half of his income and even after that some of his salary, then there would be very few divorces.
Furthermore if your man or wife despite all your efforts refuse to touch you and only spend all his or her time playing with a phone. That is a good reason for divorce.
Without consequences there will never be any responsibility.
You're right, that does seem to be the case. Not sure why either (well, most women aren't very good at math) because half your home's equity still isn't all of it, & it's not buying me shit in my area anymore & child support doesn't pay for everything 😅🤷♀️
Anyhow, yes, men should be careful who they marry, but Hump's just saying don't let the sex fall off. Don't marry someone where it wasn't there to start & just kept going largely.
The women just stops sleeping with their men for no fault of their men. They have been told for decades that it is the fault of the men but that is bullshit.
All men I know of who had had this happen to them love their wives and can easily land a woman half their age, due to their sex appeal and the fact that they are able to fuck the brains our of any woman who would let them.
Problem lies entirely within the women and feminism
I've been with my wife roughly 25 years. You should marry them and raise your children. But not because of some rule or even prohibition on divorce etc. That's just what you do. It's the role, not the rule.
The Spanish side of my family (who I was raised around) marries once and gets burried with their spouse. My anglo side... I can't say the same.
And that's why alimony is for life and why women love the welfare state.
I personally know a woman who is at the end of that cycle, she lives several doors down from me on my apartment block and constantly asks all the men on the block to help her with stuff. She doesn't work, drinks and smokes all day.
And the state still pays her rent and buys her food.
After these middle aged women have fulfilled their dreams, they have had the forbidden sex affair, they have destroyed their family, they have burned every bridge they had
Then they realize that no Mr. perfect was waiting for them
They end up realizing that they can't stand on their own feet at all. They can't afford a good home, they can't even afford to keep a car running
The phone is a symptom not a cause, taking it away would help but it won't fix the problem.
The issue is that all societal consequences for the worst elements of female nature have been removed and any attempt at policing that bad behavior is met with state force.
Whore behavior needs to have consequences and women shouldn't be able to fallback on the state when they destroyed all possibility at a healthy relationship.
Without precarity there can never be functional relationships with women.
We have community property here. That only really includes property / assessions that resulted from labor, so not inheritance or gifts from others, nor anything owned before marriage or after separation.
To the extent that support is available, it's on the assumption that one spouse got to where he or she was based on community labor, but this is also why it's not forever. We recognize that the community did end and that any tail must end as well.
Now separate property can be converted to community accidentally if comingled. You can also go either way by agreement (transmutation).
I could be mistaken, but I thought all that's a given/certain is usually child support + half assets.
My husband never wanted me to work, so he's viewed my past 10-12 yrs as sacrifice, too, & isn't even bothered by terms of divorce overall... but, again, I can do math, & emotions aside, I'd need a day job if we split & I don't want one 😆
So much lawyer talk. Lol. Community property here, too. Sometimes spousal/alimony a thing, but even my friend whose husband left her for mistress & offered full mortgage & full child support (crowding $3k/mo for both) doesn't have a way to pay other bills/extras without a job, & she had previously been home with kids.
No one wins in family court, and the things ex-spouses do to each other is just gross. This is why I usually avoid family law matters. I do get dragged into it one every now and then if there's a narrow legal issue or it's a pre-existing client, though it's rare.
And honestly my view in most of those matters is that everyone is an idiot. I only had one for a corporate client where the wife had become a hard-core drug addict where the client was normal. She died of liver failure before he paid all of the support.
I've never seen anything underhanded, but accidentally sure. It's very easy to do. You just have to put it in a community account.
Because of this, I often prepare transmutation agreements making certain property separate property when drafting estate plans (I don't do a whole lot of family law work, but trust and estates is work-a-day) and particular where it's a late second marriage. My trusts also allow for account designations, e.g. separate property of spouse A, for this same reason, so they can put inheritance into an account titled in both spouses names as trustees without converting its separate nature.
I figure if you have to go elsewhere something is wrong at home. People do it, yes, but people do all sorts of things in pursuit of pleasure that don't aim at the good, and are instead lower pleasures if pleasurable at all.
my feeling is similar, but first step is acceptance and all that jazz since it's a big world filled with parallel societies. btw, have you seen this book?
you're right that a healthy sex life is essential to a good marriage. but that rule doesn't apply when you turn financially secure for life. plenty of rich men have a certain love, respect, affection for their wife and they are both genuinely loyal. but they have nothing to lose from affairs, as long as they are discreet.
possibly they accept that we can't be all things to all people… that we age… that relationships mutate…
my mom tried her best but she has too high of an iq to be a good mother. She was very calculating and cold comparatively to other women. Not that she doesnt love me, she just is incapable of acting like a doting mother. I don't hold it against her, however growing up with her I do realize why women need to be mids at best.
I'm plenty tardy in ways, but do think hit above avg. IQ for women. Your mom was probably an introvert, & introverted high-IQ women are scary 😆 No offense, just as you described.
@Dudebro@ChristiJunior@DC5FAN@TeaTootler@subnetter same here. it is actually wild because at the same time my mom suffered incredible things due to other women too. My mom's close to being a tomboy too so she's very nice :senko_heart:
@Dudebro@ChristiJunior@DC5FAN@TeaTootler@subnetter it's funny how they couldn't register the OP context different from "just kill your spouse for xyz reason". Don't do bad things, and you won't have to fear bad things in retaliation.
@Dudebro@ChristiJunior@DC5FAN@TeaTootler you are all joking about the crime of family annihilation in this thread, which typically occurs once an insecure man loses employment, or when his wife/gf decides to leave.
Yeah most women should arm themselves, considering that pregnant women's leading cause of death is murder at the hands of their partners. You joke about it but I grew up with vile men who do/did these exact things. I know many white women who are afraid of being killed by their fathers but you want to pretend that shit is normal.
Some of us are familiar with the nature of weak men so we will be prepared to act accordingly.
You do not know the level of anger I have towards men who dont murder suicide their spouse, the judge, or the wifes lawyer and instead kill themselves.