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   GummyNerds (gummynerds@noauthority.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 06:22:04 JST GummyNerds

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   "I am not going to No Authority for anything. I've had it with that website. I think @eriner has done a piss-poor job of moderating because he basically says, "I'm not moderating." So, we have a slew of a-holes on there that are just doing nothing positive for the show. They just say negative things. They condemn you. They condemn me. They condemn everybody inbetween. And they get people like @FranciscoScaramanga all jacked up."

   We do good work NAS.

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     @GummyNerds @eriner @FranciscoScaramanga @p @sun
     
     I have to disagree with John and Adam here: there is only one way to run the internet, and that is total free speech; the price of that is do-nothing Poast/Voat assholes who repeat the same tin drum crap about the Rich, Jews, Illuminati, elites, Satanists, and so on when it is obvious that democracy did this to itself.
     
     I would suggest to Adam and John a simple fact that explains why they might have less listener support these days: you won the argument. That is, most of America now agrees with you about the M5M, the Tammany Hall political machine in Washington, and the nature of "psyops" or at least government-permitted tragedies that are used to keep the sheep in line.
     
     You're doing great work. Time to push even further, and by that I mean looking into what killed the West and how to bounce back from it.
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     @amerika @GummyNerds @FranciscoScaramanga @eriner @sun This is accurate, yeah. Just a climate where people are worrying whether saying something they think would get them banned tends to create the degenerate cancellation game, it gets people eager to snitch before someone else snitches on them.
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     @amerika @p @eriner @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @sun

     I listen to the show occasionally but wouldn't call myself a regular. I've got nothing against Adam or John and wish them all the best. I certainly won't be "guilt tripped" into giving any time, talent, or treasure. I appreciate eriner's mostly hands-off moderating. Live and let live and pass the cheesecake.

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     @amerika @p @eriner @GummyNerds @sun Could not be said better.

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     @amerika @GummyNerds @FranciscoScaramanga @eriner @sun I didn't have much to say because I agreed with most of it but:
     
     > they didn't want to get associated with the Voat/Poast stuff, and I get it.
     
     They didn't want to get associated with their own instance, which had the "Voat/Poast" stuff on it before Poast arrived.
     
     > war against the Kings.
     
     The kings lost that one. You remember why we literally ate the Neanderthals?
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     @FranciscoScaramanga @amerika @p @eriner @sun Well said, indeed!

     But, John and Adam...

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     @GummyNerds @FranciscoScaramanga @p @eriner @sun
     
     Dvorak has been a steady voice for sanity in tech for almost forty years now. I trust him.
     
     Curry has similarly spoken up many times over the years for realist sanity instead of the usual socialized, demoralized trend nonsense.
     
     That being said, let's walk a mile in their shoes... they didn't want to get associated with the Voat/Poast stuff, and I get it.
     
     That turns off their audience.
     
     It also bores people because it is repetitive as fuck and not actually informative. Something went wrong in our souls, with equality class warfare, with how we followed Abrahamic religions, and with democracy and the war against the Kings.
     
     Now we're bouncing back.
     
     The Voat/Poast lantern jaw bleating of the JQ, Christ (who was Jewish err half-Arab), Christianity (which is Jewish err Arabic), and illogical conspiracy theories holds us back as much as the cuckservatives and the Left.
     
     We need to aim toward fixing Western Civilization, which includes but is not limited to ethno-nationalism and capitalism (no socialism). We also gotta get rid of metaphysical dualism and other superstitions.
     
     This is... huh! ...war!
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     @GummyNerds @amerika @eriner @FranciscoScaramanga @sun Oh, I remember you.
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     @amerika @p @eriner @FranciscoScaramanga @sun

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     Self-censorship is demoralizing.
     
     In addition, it introduces control structures.
     
     Good leadership operates by rewarding function, punishing dysfunction, and leaving everyone else alone.
     
     Bad leadership tries to control behavior in order to normalize both dysfunction and function, since this makes it easy for leaders to stay in power.
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     Death to the Boomers
     Death in the ovens
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     @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @eriner @sun Why we talkin' to @GummyNerds then?
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     @p @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @eriner @sun
     
     No doubt, but the Voat/Poast stuff describes a mentality, not a specific origin. We could blame Voat, or /r/coontown, or Stormfront, or even Gab. Same lantern jaw clanging tin drum wallpaper buzzword text about Jews and National Socialism.
     
     The kings didn't lose. They negotiated a reasonable compromise and went on to run some of the most successful nations on Earth. Now that they are being vindicated daily by the failure of democracy, monarchism is approaching its moment.
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     > but the Voat/Poast stuff describes a mentality, not a specific origin.
     
     Because people used to call this "FSE stuff", I bristle a little. This stuff is stuff I have always hated and I'm being told that I have a secret plan to push that stuff on the world and then Poast comes by and people are ascribing it to Poast. I've thanked graf for taking receipt of the trucks of bullshit that used to end up at my house and dumping their cargo onto my lawn, but it would be better if the trucks didn't arrive. The trucks are going to arrive anyway, but I think it's better if you don't contribute your shovel-full.
     
     Really, if it's fair to ascribe that kind of thing to any instances, it's Nice Crew dot Digital and Pieville, as Matthew Limbaugh and Alex Linder actually do push that precise stuff. (I don't know how to take the temperature of Gab because it's a shithole that I never had an interest in using, so I have to rely on second- or third-hand accounts if I want to know anything about it beyond their brief flirtation with federating.)
     
     > The kings didn't lose.
     
     They did, over and over again, until we jumped here from the island and then cut the island free.
     
     > They negotiated a reasonable compromise
     
     They negotiated by running away at the Battle of Yorktown and then signing the Treaty of Paris, as predicted by William Pitt the Elder:
     
     > I know that the conquest of English America is an impossibility. You cannot, I venture to say it, you CANNOT conquer America...As to conquest, therefore, my Lords, I repeat, it is impossible. You may swell every expense, and every effort, still more extravagantly; pile and accumulate every assistance you can buy or borrow; traffic and barter with every little pitiful German Prince, that sells and sends his subjects to the shambles of a foreign country; your efforts are for ever vain and impotent—doubly so from this mercenary aid on which you rely; for it irritates, to an incurable resentment, the minds of your enemies—to overrun them with the sordid sons of rapine and plunder; devoting them and their possessions to the rapacity of hireling cruelty! If I were an American, as I am an Englishman, while a foreign troop was landed in my country, I never would lay down my arms, never! never! never!
     
     Kings didn't fare any better in France or China or wherever else.
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     > Also, the cause of the end of Neanderthals was not cannibalism, but outbreeding.
     
     It's not cannibalism if they're a different species.
     
     At any rate, we did eat them, and I didn't ask why they died out but why we ate them. We've got knife-scored Neanderthal bones, apparently we ate them.
     
     The reason we ate them is that we could, and the reason we could was that we could build a city and they could not. What we know of them indicates that they were probably smarter and stronger than us, but they stuck to small packs of one or two families and we built cities. If there was a clash and they lost one adult male, they were down an adult male when there was another clash, but if you've got a town full of people and you lose one man, you can find another guy to replace him. So the newer the Neanderthal skeleton, the more fractured skulls we find, things like badly set broken arms: they didn't have societies so they didn't specialize so they didn't advance.
     
     > Modern humans were simply more numerous, and overwhelmed the Neanderthals
     
     There were just so many humans that suddenly there were no Neanderthals. "Oh, look at *all* those modern humans! Oh, my Neanderthal heart! I'm coming, Elizabeth!"
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     Also, the cause of the end of Neanderthals was not cannibalism, but outbreeding. Modern humans were simply more numerous, and overwhelmed the Neanderthals the same way the Bantus wiped out a range of groups in Africa.
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     Dvorak has a negative outlook on almost all technology. If that alone instills trust, I have a bridge to sell you.

     Curry had recently become born-again Christian, something he was vocal about.

     IMO, the primary catalyst for the schism was incredulity regarding Israel bombing the shit out of undesirables: 10/7. Had it happened here, it would've been called a false flag. But it happened in Israel, so we need to "pray for the peace of Jerusalem".

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     @amerika @p @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @sun

     They called it at the time:

     > Adam Curry: So this is one of those days when it's like I love doing the show but it's all these types of events that happen particularly when it involves Israel become so polarizing and and also amongst the no agenda nation and people go nuts

     > John C Dvorak: Well we have these issues once in a while

     This disagreement culminated in a desire (from Adam) to disassociate, and the rest is history.

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     I'll note that I'm of course not a mind-reader, and this is purely my interpretation and recollection.

     I'm not sure why you CC'd @p and @sun other than to be a clown, but w/e.

     I hold no animosity, and as I said at the time, (like you) I understand and respect their position, I simply disagree with the conclusion.

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     > We need to aim toward fixing Western Civilization

     I don't give a shit about anybody but Americans, and not even all Americans at that, sorry not sorry.

     Your "we need #WASPs to declare a new monarch and rise TF up" shtick is retarded and isn't going to solve any problems. To be more specific, it's not going to happen and is therefore incapable of solving any problems.

     > ethno-nationalism

     US isn't an ethnic monolith. Good luck with that.

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     @eriner @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @sun Yeah, I think it's unclear who the "we" is and why "we need" that, but Americans shoot kings.
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     > it is obvious that democracy did this to itself

     I mostly agree with this, with one alteration:

     > it is obvious that "democracy" did this to itself.

     For it to be democracy (or a democratic republic), people's votes would actually have to mean something. I don't think there are many, here at least, that operate under the delusion that their vote has any substance. This begs many questions, of course, about who actually runs the State.

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     Personally, I believe the only way to restore actual governance by the people (even though people are retarded) is jury nullification. All other voting is a charade, a facade for the tyrants to run their scheme unabated and undeterred by the masses.

     But of course, nobody is taught about jury nullification and the power they have, even with that power diminished by the made up "rules" American kangaroo courts abide by.

     The fall began in 1803.

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     @eriner @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @sun Incidentally, your server is currently spamming Delete activities because an account with 30k posts has apparently either been deleted or moved or something. (Mastodon does shit like this, it is written by idiots.) This is gonna clog up your pipes and chew up your Sidekiq (also written by idiots) workers.
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     @p @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @sun I think @PNS turned on auto-delete or something after having achieved 50k posts in under a year: https://noauthority.social/@PNS/113795082634057940

     But yes, this has made the retry queue a little large, heh.

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     @eriner @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @sun @PNS That's one request per delete per server you federate with. On servers that honor your outgoing deletes, this causes a DoS.
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     @eriner @p @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @sun

     Yeah I did.

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     @eriner @p @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @sun

     As an exercise in being generally troublesome, Matt, do you have any backend analytics on what 50K looks like for impressions, interactions etc? I might do a short doc.

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     Be sure to include all the problems I've caused, for color.

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     @p @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS @sun it causes a DoS for servers that don’t honor it too, because it puts it into the retry back off queue to be processed again. The fact that it isn’t batched is retardation beyond human comprehension.

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     @eriner @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS @sun Ha, yeah, we had to actually block Pawoo's IP for a while.
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     @p @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS @eriner @sun You can't do anything about it on the Mastodon side, I think, without extensively modifying how the queues work.
     
     On the Pleroma side, I talked with feld about some kind of queuing for those delete jobs and just sending "success" back without immediately deleting the object. The idea was that it would periodically execute those jobs with a much lower priority until the queue is flushed completely and not hammer the DB like it does right now. But that idea sort of faded away after some time as he worked on more important things. Can't blame him.
     
     Of course Akkoma, in typical Akkoma fashion, can't even cope with the load, as the MRF pipeline was modified to exclude Delete activities.
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     > The idea was that it would periodically execute those jobs with a much lower priority until the queue is flushed completely and not hammer the DB like it does right now.
     
     Ah, yeah.
     
     > Of course Akkoma, in typical Akkoma fashion, can't even cope with the load, as the MRF pipeline was modified to exclude Delete activities.
     
     Ha! Hilarious.
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     > ... and thinks they can make everything better by being gay.

     FTFY

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     @amerika

     The idea of the nanny state along with, Corporatism, stocks and commodities.
     This allowed for a lazy culture that produces nothing and thinks they can make everything better by being nice.

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     > Not really,
     
     Yes, it does. Pawoo saturated FSE's link. I started returning all 429s and that just made it retry faster. FSE had to drop all traffic from Pawoo for a week and change because 90% of our traffic was Pawoo sending deletes for two accounts.
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     >it causes a DoS for servers that don’t honor it too, because it puts it into the retry back off queue
     Not really, when a user from a remote Mastodon instance deletes their account, or in the worse case the instance admin touches the "nuke instance button". Mastodon just floods the whole network with Delete activities.
     
     When a large instance, whose name I now forgot, got shutdown, I had around ~30 posts from them, and the instance sent 20+ r/s for 3 days with Delete activities for posts I didn't have made by users that didn't exist to my instance. Which caused the user to be automatically created and then immediately deactivated. The result was that my instance became barely usable until I just enabled a policy that rejects every incoming Delete request.
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     @p @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS @eriner @sun I meant it as that it didn't cause DoS only to instances that reject the deletes. It brings down even instances that honor the request. Especially those that run on cheap VPS VMs like Frantech or OVH.
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     @phnt @amerika @p @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS @eriner @sun >But that idea sort of faded away after some time as he worked on more important things
     Isn't that the current behavior? Unless the activity is so malformed it's not json anymore, I believe it gets put in the queue and the remote server receives a 200.
     https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/pleroma/-/merge_requests/3782 - queue for deletes is already the lowest priority, plus there's been a patch that immediately drops them before getting into federation pipeline if the actor sending themis unknown to your server.
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     @phnt @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS @amerika @eriner @sun Ah, yeah.
     
     They added support for signed fetches just to stop unsigned fetches and then they did literally nothing with the information.
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     @phnt @amerika @p @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS @sun

     That's why I'd said "for servers that don’t honor it *too*".

     This is also (part of) the reason I never nuked noagendasocial.com, because I was worried doing so would have destroyed almost every server it had federated with for 3+ days for no reason.

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     > doing so would have destroyed almost every server it had federated with for 3+ days for no reason.
     
     It'd have to be a pretty big plus sign. Try 30+. Probably more. The Pawoo thing, that was two accounts with about 100k posts and it was a little over a week. `SELECT sum("note_count") FROM "users" WHERE (split_part("ap_id", '/', 3) = 'noagendasocial.com')` gives me 4,654,722 here.
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     @eriner @amerika @p @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS @sun Missed that, sorry.
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     @truthbait @eriner @p @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @sun
     
     It would be great if the boys made a commitment to total free speech. I agree with Pete; it is the only way. (My teenage self agrees too, although he would flinch at some of the sexual and ethnic slurs... funny enough the adult me does too.)
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     At first I was upset with the boys for how they treated NAS. I thought it was disingenuous of them to turn from repeated promotion of Masto as a healthy alternative to the other socials because it had freedom, to hating it on a dime. But over the last year I've come to completely understand why they bailed even if I still don't approve of how they did it. It's a sewer here. My kind of sewer, but a sewer none the less.

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     @phnt @amerika @p @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS @sun

     Out of curiosity, since you both seem to know more about it than I do, does a server self-destruct send out a single unique delete, or does it also send out fifty million billion deletes?

     It doesn't matter at this point, but I am curious to know if I did the right thing or not.

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     @eriner @phnt @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS @sun If I recall correctly, it sends out one Delete per post on the server, plus an Undo per Follow, Announce (repost), Like, etc.
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     @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @eriner @sun Inaccurate but also addressing something I didn't say. I said Americans shoot kings. I would, I'm an American, quod erat demonstrandum.
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     @p @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @eriner @sun
     
     Americans wanted independence from Great Britain regardless of its form of government.
     
     The point was that tax wealth should go to the colonies, not the empire; this was an anti-tax and anti-colonization revolution, not an anti-aristocratic one except incidentally.
     
     As you know, many wanted Washington to become king, but he thought it unwise given the dispersed nature of the colonies.
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     @p @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @eriner @sun
     
     We ate them and ate each other.
     
     Modern humans and Neaderthals coexisted for thousands of years.
     
     We bred them out.
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     > Modern humans and Neaderthals coexisted for thousands of years.
     
     So have modern humans and cows; coexistence does not mean that we don't eat them.
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     > France converted itself from a world power to a backwater by overthrowing its kings.
     
     What I said was that the kings lost the war and they lost very hard; I did not say anything about Enlightenment-era French NASDAQ.
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     France converted itself from a world power to a backwater by overthrowing its kings.
     
     In America, we separated from Great Britain and promptly got owned by Canada.
     
     Our revolution was for independence, not like the French version.
     
     Our instance of that occurred in the 1960s.
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     @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @eriner @sun What for?
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     It's important to talk to Boomers.
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     @eriner @amerika @p @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS @sun I think it sends out a request for every object ("post") to every federated peer in the "nuking" instance's peer list. Basically the worst way they could have done this.

     User deletes might be unique, because some part of the object has https://instance.tld/<user>#delete or something similar.

     It's been a long time, since I looked in to this. @p might know more.

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     @phnt @amerika @p @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS @sun

     Yeah, I was curious if there was a special case for handling whole server / user deletes versus deleting individual posts one-by-one. Based on @p's complaints about NAS spamming deletes in the past (which I appreciate the notice of, because I can mitigate by clearing out the retry queue), I didn't want to wreck everyone and get IP blocked as a result of Mastodev retardation.

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     @eriner @phnt @amerika @p @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS I think Mastodon has added more activities for "delete whole account" in one shot but I don't know the details
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     @phnt @amerika @p @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS @eriner I wrote a custom MRF that lets me honor deletes for specific servers if they ask me. It's disabled by default because of random Mastodon instances.
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     @eriner @amerika @p @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS @sun Most of the bigger Pleroma instances now just ignore remote deletes anyway. SPW and FSE do and maybe even Poast. It doesn't cause that much mayhem for smaller new instance as those don't have to go through tens (or even hundreds) of gigabytes of DB data to delete a single post multiple times per second. You very likely won't get IP blocked. If it makes you less concerned, this instance only received 6 POST request from noauthority.social in the last 4 days. 4 of which are the result of me being in this thread.
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     > because Stormfront had become as one-note as the people in the JQ groups on Gab were five years ago.
     
     German feds.
     
     (The easiest way to get them to go away is to refuse to tell them whether or not you are Jewish.)
     
     > I enjoy Alex Linder and consider him a formidable intellect,
     
     He's terrified of FSE because I refused to tell him whether or not I am Jewish, he's goddamn retarded, and he tried to get DRC taken down by making bomb threats against Jewish hospitals. I've read his posts, I wouldn't call him a formidable intellect.
     
     > I am furthest Right because the Right are the only realists;
     
     You're thinking of the ancaps. Where a monarchist blathers about national character when you ask why people follow the law, the anarchist says the obviously true thing: it's because the cops have guns and there are a lot of cops. That's realism.
     
     "Right/left" is a stupid framing created for the French Revolution and resurrected by communists in order to paint an imaginary line because that framing of the issue agrees with their philosophy and rhetoric. Applying it is playing into a rhetorical trap, and you ought to stop.
     
     The only axis that actually matters is how much of a say a stranger has over your life. You want to argue which form of authoritarianism is more stable and this is like comparing the half-life of two substances that are chemically poisonous: I don't want to eat either of them since they'll both kill me. I haven't met a president, I haven't met a dictator, I haven't met a king.
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     @p @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @eriner @sun
     
     For a bit of history, at the time that this was happening, VNN Forum was rising because Stormfront had become as one-note as the people in the JQ groups on Gab were five years ago. Repeating the same shit over and over again like bad RAC bleating out a chorus.
     
     I enjoy Alex Linder and consider him a formidable intellect, even if I disagree with him on a few really big key points. Just don't ask him about Rounder.
     
     Stormfront has since repaired itself and now is usable.
     
     I am furthest Right because the Right are the only realists; liberals, classical liberals, Leftists, etc. are preaching insanity.
     
     But I think the Right needs to pull its fucken head out of its ass.
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     Revolver is gonna fix all of this.
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     @amerika @phnt @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS @eriner @sun It specifically does fix the delete problem by making the delete happen on the peer initiating it.
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     @eriner @phnt @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS @sun I like when the pipes are clean.
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     Jesus H Christ on toast, that's a nightmare. Mastodong is a DDOS disguised as a social media network.
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     @p @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @sun

     We still co-exist with Neanderthals, but for some reason it's "wrong" and "illegal" to eat them.

     The West has truly fallen.

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     > We still co-exist with Neanderthals,
     
     We have some Neanderthal DNA knocking around, mostly from human population bottlenecks, but no real Neanderthals any more.
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     @sun @amerika @phnt @p @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS

     I did a cursory search, and I think (for Mastodon) when an entire account is deleted it sends a Delete Actor event rather than individual Deletes for each note: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/6172

     I *assume* that when a server self-destructs that it sends out multiple Delete Actor events and not individual note Deletes: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/10367/files#diff-aa634f12d0ef1dcd5784148a557975a8e33b05dc28ec69347075d1b93fb2e5e4R90

     Of course this is still a heavy operation and probably best that I didn't do it.

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     @eriner @sun @amerika @phnt @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS That's from 2018. If it hadn't been reverted yet, it has by now. Probably the easiest way is to just look at the source, but I don't want to read Rails today.
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     Nah, there are still plenty of Neanderthals.

     Source: I went to Walmart three weeks ago

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     @eriner @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @sun I went into one of those recently and I saw some shaved apes but no Neanderthals.
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     @eriner @p @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @sun you can eat white people. Just go to the park, the white people at the park are free.
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     @eemmaa @eriner @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @amerika @sun I have 457 pounds of meat.
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     @p @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @eriner @sun I doubt they ever existed. The field of evolution theory (or synthesis, as they call it now) is one sketchy mosaic, ruled with an iron fist, notorious for Zombie science (long refuted, still taught.)
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     @irie @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @eriner @sun We have Otzi.
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     > I don't want to read Rails today

     You just accurately summarized why, for the last eight years I have made zero effort to modify Mastodon's source code, and why I made no effort to investigate beyond searching English language in pull requests.

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     @p @amerika @eemmaa @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @sun

     I believe the politically correct terminology is 1/2 a Lizzo

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     @eriner @amerika @eemmaa @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @sun I regret doing an image search.
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     @mint @amerika @p @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS @eriner @sun The lowest priority doesn't matter that much. It will all get executed when there's nothing else to do, which will still cause the DB activity to spike anyway and cause problems for when the real things have to be done. Add Postgres timeouts and retries to the mix and things sometimes barely work.(1) Oban doesn't seem to take into account the time it took to execute the previous low priority job when deciding if it should run the new job from the same worker with the same priority.
     It should probably be batched and the batch execution should happen only after X amount of time has passed from the previous one. It might be doable with Oban, but I don't really know.
     
     Not that it is an important thing to do, when the MRF policy is publicly known and fixing it should be done on the Mastodon or reverse proxy side, instead of mitigating their incompetence in Pleroma. And the current solution mostly works apart from the user creating spam that already has an open MR anyway. Akkoma users just have to deal with it, the same way they have to deal with other FloatingGhost's "interesting" ideas.
     
     (1) This is also one of the "skill" issues that some Pleroma instance owners complain about. It's trivial to fix with an MRF policy or a quick nginx rate limit rule, but some people will still say that Pleroma "just sucks" at being a Fediverse server, because it doesn't completely work out-of-the-box in every situation.
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     That is an enviable quantity of meat, sir.
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     @phnt @amerika @p @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @PNS @eriner @sun >some people will still say that Pleroma "just sucks" at being a Fediverse server, because it doesn't completely work out-of-the-box in every situation
     Wait until they hear about Pinux users.
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     • pistolero
     @p @amerika @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @eriner @sun yes, there is always 'something,' on which big claims are made, mostly in a pop science vein; that something sits next to gaps as big as the grand canyon. Evolution theory is mostly a dogma at this point
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