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@amerika @p @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @sun

> it is obvious that democracy did this to itself

I mostly agree with this, with one alteration:

> it is obvious that "democracy" did this to itself.

For it to be democracy (or a democratic republic), people's votes would actually have to mean something. I don't think there are many, here at least, that operate under the delusion that their vote has any substance. This begs many questions, of course, about who actually runs the State.