Actually had a whole 1000 character post that I made a week or two ago but Tusky chewed it up & am only now rewriting this part.
Those failed ambitions for T1/Pebble gave me a very similar sense as to when the Yesterweb forum & webring shut down. Both were communities that I knew about on a cursory knowledge but never interacted with, but also have great critical posts detailing flaws.
In the case of Yesterweb, it comes from another outsider-looking-in that then scrutinizes multiple official statements. The funny thing is, if I had known that the people running it were trying to build something more than myopic nostalgia, I would have been down to give out a shred of attention to them. But I only saw Yesterweb in the same lens as how Spacehey was created, or the weird feuding that fuels VidLii.
It's what I absolutely get why the Yesterweb webring was shutdown. Because they knew that history was repeating, if on a smaller scale.
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woke on a whaleheartLRT: I don't fully align with what is treated as "boring" or "funny", but yassie made a quality longpost about T2/Pebble that goes deeper into its flaws, more than any generic press release or cursory content mill like CNet would. Also another stake in the core of why VC investment is bad long-term plan. Especially when you need 5 million but can only get 3 million for growing Twitter2. Lol
To contrast, compare their postmortem with a user that looked upon their experience more favorably. Also more detailed than the founders shutdown announcement. prysmcat.com/blog/2023/10/learning-from-t2-pebble/
@Flaky One of the dumber ideas I've had slow cooking is figuring out how to mash a Kareha-style textboard and the ActivityPub API together. Not a point of advice, just something that seems bad on all fronts but also really interesting.
@Flaky For single-user/tiny instances, the current ones in the running are GoToSocial and Honk. There's also the WIP R******r project as led by one of the free speech™ instance people.
As for the "good" ones, Misskey and its derivative instances seem to have grown from the neat features and JP origin. Pleroma and variants are lighter on resources than Mastodon (thus a good chunk of instance drama), but I've heard that scaling is where it starts getting tricky to use. Also there was a decent amount of scuffling that really began once it past version 1.0.0 but that's literally 3+ years ago now.
Stepping outside the twitter clone zone, Friendica seems liked by a handful of old people wanting a Facebook clone newer than Diaspora. Bookwyrm seems up my alley as a Goodreads analogue, and I have not interacted with anything related to Lemmy or anything vaguely resembling a messageboard yet.
@allison Never heard of this before, reminds me a lot of how slsk and limewire were talked about. One could possibly chart a line from this to synchtube and syncplay with how those two (especially the former) basically made online watch parties a thing.
This time of the internet was a little before me going online, so the non-browser freewares and IRC-adjacent tech was mostly inscrutable with the exception of like VisualBoyAdvance.
@allison Interesting, seems like another spot I should read more about. Surprised it took platforms like Twitch so long to even dabble in stuff like the scrolling text that instantly marked it being a niconico video.
@Patashu The reason I find that most YouTube Alternatives crash and burn is that many of them jump for higher quality videos or larger files. This then turns them into an equally janky version of Vimeo (pre-B2B turn), with a growing userbase of mostly scorned (read: banned/flagged) YouTubers that want to become the big fish in a slowly growing small pond. Blip to Vessel to Vidme. Eventually that VC/investor growth money dries up and/or it's time to pay up.
The first thing to put up would be some payment system that would only give pithy payouts, equal to or worse than MTurk money. Either riding Adsense or another clone will do. Rebooting Project Wonderful for this would be good but is also outside the scope, so the ad service thought can be saved for another day.
Would almost place it mentally to the scrappy temp image hosts or Pastebin clones that are started up by 2 people in like Croatia. They usually last about a year or three, but can easily know their limits.
Austerityvision - base foundation: VidLii is the most stable of the YouTube Alternatives, Dailymotion is funded by french ISPs/TV. Thus, services like Dailymotion and Metacafe are not reliable metrics for observing video hosts.
Austerityvision: 50MB limit (smaller sizes?), less than 10 minutes, longer than 10 seconds, supports MP4 and MKV and FFV1 and AV1, Opus or FLAC audio only Vidlii: HQ video amounts to 480p, while the regular format is 240p
"Videos uploaded by users are heavily compressed to resemble the quality of YouTube videos from the time. In addition, the uploaded videos must be no greater than 2GB and must be less than 30 minutes. BitView (previous version of VidLii) supports the WMV, AVI, MOV, MPG and MP4 video formats."
@Weeble The first half or 1/3rd seems like intro stuff one can learn on a wiki or the content mill sites, but the realest seem pretty handy. $450 handy? Tbh it probably is for me, but also I haven't done anything like hosting servers or a social media instance.
@tk@SmudgeTheInsultCat@StampedingLonghorn A wiser place would have something down to be a disincentive for mixing plastics like LDPE with cardboard, or packing products with wax paper that has a longer decomposition time than uranium. or everything about polystyrene.
Also something to be said about the trouble people already have when it comes to recycling the 2-3 (maybe 4 but thats a whole other discussion) plastics that do some degree of viability.
@Azure One of the best musicians that sprouted out from Beat Happening. People create entire bands and projects now just trying to recreate The Glow Pt 2, but just recently listening to it for the first time blew me away with the combination of practiced messiness and variety. This is coming from someone that tried doing a similar scattershot style in recording music.
@tk Would this be regarded as a horizontal dropout? It's not super vertical, but I somewhat feel/felt like hedging my bet due to its former derailleur being a longer MTB-type from what I remember. Do have a new single speed chain (+multiple speed one for Bike 2), so I think adding some new bolts and cleaning up the old wheels & cassette could do the trick.
@tk Bike 2 is a 24" bike with 3x5 gearing that has more parts but it's like how Bike 1 was before removing all parts: cheap steel or aluminum, mostly broken plastic and a helping of rust, but it almost seems to work. The shifters and brakes have seized up in general. The rear derailleur and chain are thickly coated with rust, but it feels like more than WD-40 and wire brushing will be needed to make the really stiff chain and rear derailleur
The current goal of this one is less of a great blank slate than Bike 1, mostly to make it run again. This has meant removing the front derailleur but keeping to a 1x5 type setup. The bike came with 20"(?) wheels and big 1.5" tires, but again, switching to larger but relatively bigger 26"/650b/700c rims and thinner 38c/40mm tires sounds about right. I'm willing to replace the chain (already have a new one), but I have a sense that replacing any more parts will be paying more money than this bike is worth right now.
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