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   woke on a whaleheart (harneyb@decept.org)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2023 14:40:20 JST woke on a whaleheart
   Recently heard this year that airliners once used to call Economy Class seating "Austerity Class". When it comes to creating a video host, it feels more appropriate to bring that descriptor back. This is another site concept very few people will like.
   
   Austerityvision
   - base foundation: VidLii is the most stable of the YouTube Alternatives, Dailymotion is funded by french ISPs/TV. Thus, services like Dailymotion and Metacafe are not reliable metrics for observing video hosts.
   
   Austerityvision: 50MB limit (smaller sizes?), less than 10 minutes, longer than 10 seconds, supports MP4 and MKV and FFV1 and AV1, Opus or FLAC audio only
   Vidlii: HQ video amounts to 480p, while the regular format is 240p
   
   "Videos uploaded by users are heavily compressed to resemble the quality of YouTube videos from the time. In addition, the uploaded videos must be no greater than 2GB and must be less than 30 minutes. BitView (previous version of VidLii) supports the WMV, AVI, MOV, MPG and MP4 video formats."
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     @HarneyB niconico was very nearly this for a long time and didn't seem to lose too much for it
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     @cell @HarneyB another interesting thing to note about niconico: until recently, they didn't bother transcoding videos. this meant that PCB and video capture footage uploaded there was actually completely faithful to the source if it was short enough to fit within nico's filesize limits
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     「セル」cell (سل) (cell@pl.ebin.zone)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2023 14:45:17 JST 「セル」cell (سل)

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     @allison @HarneyB one interesting thing to note about niconico: higher quality formats are only available during off-peak hours
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     woke on a whaleheart (harneyb@decept.org)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2023 15:02:34 JST woke on a whaleheart

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     • Patashu (Dragon Style!)
     @Patashu The reason I find that most YouTube Alternatives crash and burn is that many of them jump for higher quality videos or larger files. This then turns them into an equally janky version of Vimeo (pre-B2B turn), with a growing userbase of mostly scorned (read: banned/flagged) YouTubers that want to become the big fish in a slowly growing small pond. Blip to Vessel to Vidme. Eventually that VC/investor growth money dries up and/or it's time to pay up.
     
     The first thing to put up would be some payment system that would only give pithy payouts, equal to or worse than MTurk money. Either riding Adsense or another clone will do. Rebooting Project Wonderful for this would be good but is also outside the scope, so the ad service thought can be saved for another day.
     
     Would almost place it mentally to the scrappy temp image hosts or Pastebin clones that are started up by 2 people in like Croatia. They usually last about a year or three, but can easily know their limits.
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     Patashu (Dragon Style!) (patashu@dragon.style)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2023 15:02:40 JST Patashu (Dragon Style!)

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     @HarneyB

     I love this, but it's a hard sell until the moment youtubes crashes and burns, and then this would crash and burn next unless it was monetized somehow, haha.

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     • Patashu (Dragon Style!)
     @HarneyB @Patashu Or we can just return to tradition and start using things in the vein of WinMX to share videos again
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     @HarneyB yeah it's really cool, has a totally distinct culture that I've barely even scratched the surface of due to only being there for the arcade game replay scene
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     woke on a whaleheart (harneyb@decept.org)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2023 15:05:41 JST woke on a whaleheart

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     @allison Interesting, seems like another spot I should read more about. Surprised it took platforms like Twitch so long to even dabble in stuff like the scrolling text that instantly marked it being a niconico video.
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     woke on a whaleheart (harneyb@decept.org)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2023 16:12:21 JST woke on a whaleheart

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     @allison Never heard of this before, reminds me a lot of how slsk and limewire were talked about. One could possibly chart a line from this to synchtube and syncplay with how those two (especially the former) basically made online watch parties a thing.
     
     This time of the internet was a little before me going online, so the non-browser freewares and IRC-adjacent tech was mostly inscrutable with the exception of like VisualBoyAdvance.
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     @HarneyB Oh yeah for sure, I didn't see any of it personally either. Probably the earliest filesharing programs I used were FrostWire, uTorrent, and KDX (very nearly in that order) and those were all around 2009-2010.