Actually had a whole 1000 character post that I made a week or two ago but Tusky chewed it up & am only now rewriting this part.

Those failed ambitions for T1/Pebble gave me a very similar sense as to when the Yesterweb forum & webring shut down. Both were communities that I knew about on a cursory knowledge but never interacted with, but also have great critical posts detailing flaws.

suboptimalism.neocities.org/writings/yesterweb

In the case of Yesterweb, it comes from another outsider-looking-in that then scrutinizes multiple official statements. The funny thing is, if I had known that the people running it were trying to build something more than myopic nostalgia, I would have been down to give out a shred of attention to them. But I only saw Yesterweb in the same lens as how Spacehey was created, or the weird feuding that fuels VidLii.

It's what I absolutely get why the Yesterweb webring was shutdown. Because they knew that history was repeating, if on a smaller scale.