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@doomchild

If you are on Ubuntu, why not just switch to #Debian? Or one of its other downstreams like Mint?

Disclosure: I'm a Debian developer and my only #gaming routine is #Emacs.

@icedquinn @movim @finn

The proposed standard is still in a state of flux:

XEP-0503: Server-side spaces

https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0503.html

As far as I understand, a space is a set of multiple group chats (MUCs) on the same instance, that have the same members and permissions.

@finn

Spaces are coming now to #Jabber/#XMPP, which seems to be a fundamental feature of Discord. The leading client for that feature is #Movim by @movim

https://mov.im/post/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim/help-movim-reach-its-goals-for-2026-LQext9

And a Matrix bridge powered by #slidge is already included. Cool!

@joeneXtra

I'm not sure, if a poll makes much sense, because it depends on preferences. The feature sets are different, the clients are different etc.

My own use cases are much better fulfilled by #Jabber/#XMPP, but others might prefer Delta or Matrix or Briar or Jami…

#JabberDay is a good time for #contemplation.
Let's think about what we like most about #Jabber.

For me most important: #XMPP is truely #universal!

It's for private #chat like Briar or Delta,
it's for group chat like IRC or Matrix,
it's for #IoT like MQTT or AMQP,
it's for #socialNetworks like ActivityPub or Diaspora.

What's important to you?

@lexinova @lxo

Why do you assume, that sth. entirely new would do any better than building on existing stuff, such as #XMPP?
NIH never helped much. And you don't need to tell anyone, that you are building on proven technology, e.g. XMPP.

@daniel

IMHO, the point of both Delta and the new ActivityPub based chat (does it have a name yet?) is prevalence, at least in a certain part of society.

I remember, that Delta proponents said, that "you can reach everyone, who has an email address."

Now it is: "You can reach everyone, who has a fediverse account."

In the end, it is not that easy, e.g. because email users might not have autocrypt in their client, and it will take a while until there is #MLS in e.g. #mastodonEl.

@marcel @daniel

There are already two gateways from #Jabber to ActivityPub, two for SMS, and probably many for email.

@Goffi is working on bridges not breaking e2ee, AFAIK.

@marcel @daniel

ActivityPub: #libervia by @Goffi and #XMPP-ap-bridge by @barbapulpe.

SMS: #cheogram by @cheogram, IIRC, and #sms4you, partially by me.

Email: libervia, again, and cheogram, again. But I believe, that there are more. Not sure.

@puniko

I have my own instance, only for me, and only for Matrix ("matridge"). It works, i.e. I can participate in public Matrix rooms. Not only messages are bridged, but also images and message reactions.

There is a long-standing bug, that leads to showing Matrix message multiple times in my #Jabber client.

The official #Movim instance makes use of #slidge, for Telegram, Matrix, and Discord. You can try it there, if you trust @movim with your credentials:

https://mov.im/

@resplendent606

#Nitpicking: I would argue, that #Emacs, Nano, and Vim are predominantly TUI (terminual user interface) programs, not so much CLI (command line interface) 🙂 "Real" CLI editors are e.g. ed and sed. But then, Emacs and vim even have optional modern GUI nowadays 🤷

Anyway, I use Emacs in CLI mode, i.e. in a Makefile to create a manual page from #orgmode:

emacs --quick --batch --kill inputfile.org --eval "(require 'ox-man)" -f org-man-export-to-man

#Bargeldlos bezahlen und #Datenschutz müssen kein Widerspruch sein.

In #Berlin kann man in #BVG-Bussen und in öffentlichen #WCs zwar nicht mehr mit #Bargeld bezahlen, aber es gibt die BVG-#Guthabenkarte. Die ist anscheinend anonym und übertragbar.

Kein #Digitalzwang, kein #Appzwang, kein #GAFAMzwang in #ÖPNV oder der #Toilette! Geht doch, wenn man nur will!

https://www.bvg.de/de/service-und-kontakt/guthabenkarte

Jetzt fehlt nur noch Karte aufladen per #Taler! 🙂 @Taler

@nemo @rysiek

I'ld trust Signal, too.
Alas, I can't use it, because the app is only on Google Android and Apple iOS. Even their desktop client requires such a thingy.

Also, I like to get rid of #EvilTech dependencies, which includes AWS 🤷

Oh, and they still want my phone number. That's not necessarily a blocker for me, but … why?

Btw. https://proton.me/blog/is-signal-safe says Threema were #openSource, but AFAIK the server is not.

#Panic! Big #dataLeak at #Whatsapp! What if the 3.5 billion profiles fall into the hands of a #supervillain? Such as #MarkZuckerberg? Unthinkable!

#privacy #broligarchy #techFeudalism #dataBreach #meta #techBro

Which #freeSoftware do people use for #embroidery, esp. on #Debian, and which machines do work with it? TIA.

#inkStitch #kxStitch

"If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place" — Eric Schmidt in 2009, then Google CEO

And now: "Loser of the Week
Former Google boss and tech #billionaire #EricSchmidt has been accused by his former mistress of having her and her family surveilled, according to a new civil lawsuit. Schmidt is yet to comment."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/the-wiretap/2025/10/21/ice-spies-on-whatsapp/

#surveillance #privacy #humanRights #domesticAbuse #Forbes #ThomasBrewster

A sign inside of a #hotel #lift in #Argentina:

"Si el ascensor se detiene o falla, por favor comunicarse al Whatsapp de recepcion.

If the elevator stops or fails, please contact the front desk Whatsapp."

And an QR code.

Unfortunately, not a joke.

#digitalism #smartphone #GAFAM #smartphoneBondage #smartphoneCoercion #wasap #XMPP

@LadyNeuroFunk

#Jabber/#XMPP since ≈ 2014.

With gateways to IRC (#biboumi), Matrix (#slidge-matridge), and SMS (#sms4you).

There is a brandnew #MobileLinux and #Mobian channel (mostly en, partially de) on #Jabber:

xmpp:mobile-linux@conference.conversations.im?join

𝕬𝖇𝖆𝖓𝖉𝖔𝖓 𝕬𝖓𝖉𝖗𝖔𝖎𝖉, 𝖞𝖊 𝖜𝖍𝖔 𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖊𝖗 𝖍𝖊𝖗𝖊!

#freeSoftware #LinuxOnMobile #smartphone #XMPP #Inferno

#Jabber is the #fediverse of #chat.