Notices by 🌈 Barbapulpe 😇 ᴹᵃˢᵗᵒᵈᵒⁿ (barbapulpe@gayfr.social)

@dansup
As long as we have the choice to not enable it, I am fine with that, fediverse is about providing choice.

As for services I host, I shall never propose a GAFAM subservice. My choice.

Many of my users want to flee from Google, Apple, etc. Even if they have such a smartphone and it may not add much more dependency, I want to offer services that don't increase their adherence.

Only by quiting bit by bit all those dependencies shall we succeed in building true alternatives to GAFAM. My opinion.

@dansup
Just make sure server admins can disable it if they want!

@dansup
At least with email there are some European, non-GAFAM alternatives!

@dansup
Hey Dan, I'm a bit unclear how that service works. It seems like "servers" only lists a handpicked set, not all available?

What are "invited admins" you refer tp?

@dansup
How does it work? From a list of relays?

@dansup
Thanks. So it's one-way from lopps.video to other servers?

@alexchapman @dansup
I don’t know if "this guy" refers to me?

No need to be aggressive. I made my point clearly and I understand perfectly well how federation works.

This had nothing to do with the technical side. It’s about the spirit of having no central authority to supervise the federated servers.

Dan has since clarified his original post and his stance in the thread. If you had seen the original phrasing which mentioned (copy/paste) "bring curated (by me) updates to users" and showed a "suggested accounts" screenshot, you might have understood the confusion.

@dansup
And it is reciprocal (if that's proper English 😉)

@dansup
Great, and thanks again.

Together we achieve more ❤️

@dansup
Thanks so much Dan! So fast and so eager to satisfy, I really appreciate it.

I want to apologize if you felt bullied, that was not my intention. But just like you I am passionate about fediverse and adamant against any central authority.

Keep up the great job and spirit! I hope you won't feel bad about me.

@dansup
Well that description sounds much better, not the way I read it in your initial message, where I understood you would send direct notifications to all users in real time.

Sorry if I misunderstood. I definitely enjoy your software and the effort you put in it.

I am just very careful about not allowing any central authority to control fediverse servers. If that is not the case, then fine. And sorry again if I overreacted ❤️

@dansup
If you contact directly my users to tell them a new feature is available, but I have a technical valid reason to delay my upgrade by a few weeks, you are putting pressure on me and commanding me indirectly thru my users to comply. That is the red line I see.

Maybe I misunderstood what you are trying to achieve?

@dansup
You are acting as a central point of decision. I made my point. Let others comment on that decision of yours.

@dansup
There is a problem.

I may have perfectly valid reasons to delay an upgrade, to disable a feature, etc.

Having a central overseeing team to contact a user makes me no longer an admin, just a server operator.

No other fediverse project as I know of does that. That is a red line for me that must not be crossed.

@dansup
This... is... wrong.

Admins must remain in charge. They must decide on when they upgrade, what features they enable, etc.

Doing otherwise breaks the model of federation.

Who asked for that?

I am asking for a capability for each server admins to disable that feature.

@dansup
I'm sorry but if you are saying that you, Dan, can notify all users directly, this is wrong. It goes against the spirit of decentralization.

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@dansup
That is a great feature! Thanks.

Using blockquote rather than iframe, will that be ported also to Pixelfed later?

@dansup
Thanks, I will study that.

But it seems different from Pixelfed however as I don’t seem to find all endpoints in Loops, but both use Laravel Passport, I thought.

@dansup
Oh thanks. I was going thru the API page and did not find the authentication endpoints as per Oauth2 (token, etc.)