Notices by Doc Edward Morbius ⭕​ (dredmorbius@toot.cat)

@staidwinnow Oddly enough, the toot you're responding to explains precisely why.

Amongst the various powers and strengths of decentralisation is taking preemptive protective action.

@staidwinnow Scale. Capability. Demonstrated malevolence. Demonstrated violation of past pledges and agreements. A history of scorched-earth tactics against previous rivals.

Contact with Facebook by the Fediverse would all but certainly prove violently disruptive if not fatal. Hell, it's very nearly impossible to even discuss the matter without bifurcating the network.

Or if that's too long/didn't for you: the risks are too great, and there's absolutely no basis for trust.

I really don't care to discuss this further with you as this is all painfully obvious and your failure to grasp these points is beyond my own ken.

Calling out an edit above, just so others don't miss it.

I'd initially read Khan's comments as saying that there was a 2019 consent order that FB had been noncompliant with.

No, there was a consent decree a decade old (unclear if now or in 2019) that the FTC found hadn't been complied with in 2019.

I suspect that's the 2012 order described here:

https://www.ftc.gov/legal-library/browse/cases-proceedings/092-3184-182-3109-c-4365-facebook-inc-matter

@stux

@stux If US and EU antitrust / competitiveness authorities cannot secure compliance from Facebook and Zuckerberg for existing and longstanding orders, what makes you think a rag-tag bunch of Fediverse admins will fare better?

Facebook are manifestly bad-faith and untrustworthy actors. Preblock, now.

Facebook is a repeat violator at the FTC. There was a consent decree that goes back close to a decade, which the FTC in 2019 found that they violated. The recent news suggests that they may have also been in violation of this latest consent order. And that is really prompting a step back and a close look at: What does it take to make sure that firms across the board are actually complying with the law? ... I think when you have companies that are repeatedly before a law-enforcement agency, you need to ask serious questions about whether these companies are recidivist and whether they have a challenge in abiding by existing laws.

-- Lina Khan, Chair of the US Federal Trade Commission, interviewed by Kara Swisher,15 May 2023

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/05/on-with-kara-swisher-ftc-chair-lina-khan-on-ai-and-musk.html

At the very least, a precondition for any cooperation would be full compliance with existing antitrust actions, sanctions, consent orders, and the like, for a period at least as long as noncompliance (so, at least ten years in the case of the order found in violation in 2019).

Edit: s/Swischer/Swisher/. Clarified and corrected out-of-compliance period regarding consent orders.

#Facebook #Meta #MetaBlock #KaraSwisher #LinaKhan #USFTC #Antitrust #Monopoly #EmbraceExtendExtinguish #EternalSeptember #MarkZuckerberg #FuckZuck #FuckFacebook

@woozle NB: I'd love to see those conditions hashed out, here or elsewhere.

@vantablack @GrouchyHydra @maloki @news

If US and EU antitrust / competitiveness authorities cannot secure compliance from Facebook and Zuckerberg for existing and longstanding orders, what makes you think a rag-tag bunch of Fediverse admins will fare better?

Facebook are manifestly bad-faith and untrustworthy actors. Preblock, now.

Facebook is a repeat violator at the FTC. There was a consent decree that goes back close to a decade, which the FTC in 2019 found that they violated. The recent news suggests that they may have also been in violation of this latest consent order. And that is really prompting a step back and a close look at: What does it take to make sure that firms across the board are actually complying with the law? ... I think when you have companies that are repeatedly before a law-enforcement agency, you need to ask serious questions about whether these companies are recidivist and whether they have a challenge in abiding by existing laws.

-- Lina Khan, Chair of the US Federal Trade Commission, interviewed by Kara Swischer,15 May 2023

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/05/on-with-kara-swisher-ftc-chair-lina-khan-on-ai-and-musk.html

At the very least, a precondition for any cooperation would be full compliance with existing antitrust actions, sanctions, consent orders, and the like, for a period at least as long as noncompliance (so, four years in the case of the 2019 order).

#Facebook #Meta #MetaBlock #KaraSwisher #LinaKhan #USFTC #Antitrust #Monopoly #EmbraceExtendExtinguish #EternalSeptember #MarkZuckerberg #FuckZuck #FuckFacebook

@kkarhan More than that even as the e-ink display shows current estimated arrival times.

As much as I dislike smartphones these days, that capability alone is an absolute game-changer when using public transit.

And unlike many other digital signage options, e-ink works well both at night (illuminate the display) and exceptionally well under direct sunlight. The lower contrast is often easier to read / less harsh on the eyes than paper would be.

@corduroy @Raspberry_Pi

@thomasfuchs Thanks.

That would've been my guess.

@thomasfuchs PS: That demo is mental!

I had no idea oscilloscope music was A Thing.

@thomasfuchs So, I've a vague idea of what that is:

https://testequipment.center/Products/Tektronix-760A

What would you do with it / use it for?

@chucker Given that WBM already has a date-specification syntax, with options for wildcards and (I think) date-ranging, this would be a sensible proposal.

I've been thinking for a bit now that URLs and especially domain names should have a date-specification, and that notions such as transfers, especially of personal domains, should be ... far less viable than they are now.

(Naming things is a Hard Problem, especially when it intersects with timey-wimey stuff.)

@bramhill @rmondello

@evan NB, this explanation is far better than the ones I've seen yet (including our OOB chat). And has absolutely no resemblance to what little clarity I was taking from the original question.

No need to reply, it can wait until after the poll closes, but just thought I'd share this.

@grin

@evan Sure, I get that and run my own polls that way myself.

Talk after is good.

@evan My life goes on.

I figure you're aiming for something here, and in this case missing. But likewise.

@evan A little bit?

"Some service accounts are OK, so long as they exist at all" being my attempted rephrase.

I'm ... still not sure what issue / problem this is addressing, if any.

@evan I'm not understanding the question here, and feel as if I'm missing critical context.

@whynothugo Piker!

Clearly, we should be advertising Twitter to him again, and again, and again, since he obviously liked it enough to buy it once.

@pfadintegral

@feonixrift I suspect many of the people claiming that aren't going to be convinced, and that even trying is a wasted effort.

They'll come around when it becomes clear that this is where it's at (if that happens).

Fighting / arguing with them is ... largely ... a lost cause.

Though if you bump into someone you know IRL, paving the way may help.

I agree that "treat your first account as a starter experience" --- learn the ropes, then find out where you plan to stay / stick around --- is probably useful advice.

It also suggests an opportunity for onboarding: instances which offer time-limited trial profiles for sounding out the network, say, 2--4 weeks, after which the profile expires (or perhaps forwards to elsewhere.

(This ... might actually address a number of issues / concerns, including the spam/bot problem.)