A solar powered, e-ink bus stop sign with real-time bus times. This is a very good combination of neat technologies.
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Josh McKinnon (corduroy@aus.social)'s status on Friday, 26-May-2023 11:31:23 JST Josh McKinnon - clacke likes this.
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Polychrome :blabcat: (polychrome@poly.cybre.city)'s status on Friday, 26-May-2023 11:31:17 JST Polychrome :blabcat: @corduroy thats a big eInk screen! -
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Polychrome :blabcat: (polychrome@poly.cybre.city)'s status on Friday, 26-May-2023 11:46:34 JST Polychrome :blabcat: @SigmaOne @corduroy we just use low cost front lit TN LCD displays.
The fancier ones are signs that use big yellow LEDs on a low resolution matrix to render alphanumerics and icons.
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sigmaone@toot.party's status on Friday, 26-May-2023 11:46:36 JST SigmaOne @Polychrome @corduroy yeah i feel this is kinda an issue, those things are ridiculously expensive
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Polychrome :blabcat: (polychrome@poly.cybre.city)'s status on Friday, 26-May-2023 11:59:27 JST Polychrome :blabcat: @SigmaOne @corduroy that's just waiting for someone to slap a malicious QR on the original -
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sigmaone@toot.party's status on Friday, 26-May-2023 11:59:28 JST SigmaOne @Polychrome @corduroy yeah, we have just plain regular LCDs at some bus stops
meanwhile on others we have the absolute worst possible solution, a piece of paper with a QR code on it
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Polychrome :blabcat: (polychrome@poly.cybre.city)'s status on Friday, 26-May-2023 15:20:57 JST Polychrome :blabcat: @niclas @corduroy @SigmaOne it's not surveillance, it's culture. That culture sucks. -
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Niclas Hedhman (niclas@angrytoday.com)'s status on Friday, 26-May-2023 15:20:58 JST Niclas Hedhman @corduroy
My brother used to do these kind of things 10-20 years ago (not e-ink, but...), and the biggest problem he had was vandalism and theft.
Solar panels were stolen, whole display units were stolen and he has a lot of stories about how vandals destroyed "vandal proof" equipment. Will work in Japan, China and where surveillance is ironclad (which is then a bigger problem), but put it in an American big city and see how long it will last... -
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sigmaone@toot.party's status on Friday, 26-May-2023 15:33:02 JST SigmaOne @Polychrome @niclas @corduroy as in vandalism? can confirm, finland is far from a surveillance state, and vandalism isn't really that much of a problem here beyond like, some occasional graffiti and such
my hypothesis is that it's to do with the more collectivist culture more than surveillance
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Doc Edward Morbius ⭕ (dredmorbius@toot.cat)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 15:55:55 JST Doc Edward Morbius ⭕ @kkarhan More than that even as the e-ink display shows current estimated arrival times.
As much as I dislike smartphones these days, that capability alone is an absolute game-changer when using public transit.
And unlike many other digital signage options, e-ink works well both at night (illuminate the display) and exceptionally well under direct sunlight. The lower contrast is often easier to read / less harsh on the eyes than paper would be.
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Kevin Karhan :verified: (kkarhan@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 15:55:56 JST Kevin Karhan :verified: @corduroy Also it's even more accessible than paper whilst avoiding the need to reprint plans everytime they change schedules and routings...
Propably uses a @Raspberry_Pi #Pi0 with a cheap WWAN modem.
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Polychrome :blabcat: (polychrome@poly.cybre.city)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 18:52:09 JST Polychrome :blabcat: @tusooa @niclas @corduroy @SigmaOne people vandalizing things without stealing anything or having a political statement don't do it to feed themselves. This kind of a thing definitely happens. -
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tusooa :Cat_girls_Emoji_004: 西风 (tusooa@kazv.moe)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 18:52:11 JST tusooa :Cat_girls_Emoji_004: 西风 @Polychrome @niclas @corduroy @SigmaOne it's never about culture. it's about poor people who have to rely on stealing things to feed themselves. you have to reach a solution to the systematic problem. -
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sigmaone@toot.party's status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 19:34:12 JST SigmaOne @Polychrome @niclas @corduroy @tusooa from what i've seen and heard in finland, vandalism really doesn't look into socioeconomic class or anything, it's mostly just teens regardless of wealth fucking about, and due to that not that big of an issue
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Polychrome :blabcat: (polychrome@poly.cybre.city)'s status on Saturday, 27-May-2023 19:34:52 JST Polychrome :blabcat: @SigmaOne @niclas @corduroy @tusooa thats is also my experience (I am not American) -
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Polychrome :blabcat: (polychrome@poly.cybre.city)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2023 08:16:40 JST Polychrome :blabcat: @aran @corduroy @SigmaOne the LCD screens we have are reflective screens that are visible in sunlight during the day and use soft a frontlight during the night. -
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Aran (aran@livellosegreto.it)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2023 08:16:47 JST Aran @Polychrome @corduroy @SigmaOne
All other things being equal, I find eink less intrusive on the landscape 😅 There's something stressful in having bright LCD screens EVERYWHERE
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Polychrome :blabcat: (polychrome@poly.cybre.city)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2023 08:22:25 JST Polychrome :blabcat: @aran @corduroy @SigmaOne you're talking with someone who loves the look of TN LCDs so I'm probably not an example :blabcat: -
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Aran (aran@livellosegreto.it)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2023 08:22:26 JST Aran @Polychrome @corduroy @SigmaOne
And can we both agree that the paper look of eink is more relaxing than that?
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Polychrome :blabcat: (polychrome@poly.cybre.city)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2023 08:26:18 JST Polychrome :blabcat: @aran @corduroy @SigmaOne I ... don't think I ever saw an ad sign using TN LCDs, those things are too chill. Mostly they use obnoxious bright LEDs and stuff.
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Aran (aran@livellosegreto.it)'s status on Monday, 29-May-2023 08:26:19 JST Aran @Polychrome @corduroy @SigmaOne
If it were to me, I would tear down every single ad sign from the streets 😅 Let's agree to disagree 😄