@witchescauldron what about p2p? what are the punk kids of the torrent generation do these days? ๐
seems something is still missing
@witchescauldron what about p2p? what are the punk kids of the torrent generation do these days? ๐
seems something is still missing
@witchescauldron hm, you should try dat-ecosystem projects, especially keet.
it works on mobile and it doesnt require servers or backends, it uses the p2p networo to punch their way out of most network situatiins to establish direct p2p connections and it also uses the p2p network to blind relay in situations where the network is so locked down that holepunching get too hard, but thats a rare scenario anyway.
dat is basicallly torrents with version control integrated for any type of data
https://dat-ecosystem.org has a timeline where you can see when what funding was received and spent.
@witchescauldron by the way.
here is to bust some p2p myths.
check the last minutes, where it talks how the tech is green and predestined to minimize carbon foot print.
@simon @jimgar and i learned a new term called "polysemic" ๐
thanks. ...makes sense to me.
@simon maybe, but because some science people working on it called it that doesnt mean we have to accept the word.
the more general term hides the more specific and nuanced and more informative details, also once introduced into the mainstream vocabulary it might clash with other mainstream meaning and it is easier for a small group to change their wording than for a large group.
i generally think scientists should strive to simplify their language, but some actually hide behind it.
@simon i do think AI gives way to much credibility to it. People saw and read scifi movies/books and believe chat gpt & co. despite all the confident bullshit it shares.
also, image recognition is different from a language learning model, so what are we even talking about when talking about AI?
it is way to broad to make useful statements, other than what we all saw in scifi movies at some point imho
@simon
hm, yeah no.
i disagree.
mainstream people have as much rights to their words as scientists, but mainstream is in the majority and AI will also continue to be abused by marketing to make outrageous claims.
i dont think AI helps anyone and i will continue to ignore anyone talking about AI
@simon
The word AI does not help anyone with anything, because you also cant tell which version or part i even mean when saying that, hence it is just confusing. ๐
i just meant the term
I think that's quite an accurate description of the current state of affairs
( https://theshovel.com.au/2021/10/26/man-announces-he-will-quit-drinking-by-2050/ )
@bengo @aral @evan
means nothing.
not all 501c3's are the same.
The web is hostile towards peer to peer. Why?
Because of the way it is made and governed.
You need to find people who support a specific way of doing things. A shared purpose.
Corporations should not be part of that, especially not those big tech folks that brought the web to where it is today
@aral @evan @bengo
and lets not forget other members of the W3C, like....
w3c means e.g. adobe, airbnb, alibaba, amazon, apple, AT&T, Autodesk, Avast, Cisco, Cloudflare, Comcast, Google, Huawei, IBM, Intel, Lenovo, LG, Mastercard, Meta, Mitsubishi, Netflix, Microsoft, Nvidia, Oracle, Qualcomm, Salesforce, Samsung, SAP, Shopify, Siemens, Softbank, Sony, Tencent, Verisifn, Viacom, VISA, Volkawagen, Volvo, Disney, Yahoo, Zoom, ... next to others
@aral @jasper agree with you.
anyway, mainly going there to meet some folks who i rarely have a chance to meet. was hoping you might be there too.
we still plan to visit you.
otherwise next wizardamigos codecamp will probably be late october in portugal
@aral @jasper ohterwise we are still busy, grinding, working, full time, no monies, barely surviving...
...but sadly no companies that work on local/offline first, user own all their data, never on a server, peer to peer tech and hires and pays for it ...so we build it ourselves and have fun sraying poor
The European Union is making fun of programmers who want to build the "Next Generation Internet".
We applied 3 times already and never got anywhere.
Others applied too and got rejected.
Some get it, but they get peanuts for never ending paper works and delays.
The entire NGI has like 8 Million for all projects over the entire program duration to build the NGI.
That is what "keet/hypercore" has alone for just hypercore (10 Million).
Also that's a drop compared to blockchains.
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