Notices by Mike McCue (mike@flipboard.social), page 4

AI summaries of news = stealing from the journalists and the publishers who subsidized that journalism in the first place. Full stop.

@darnelltv @mray @miaq @mia @darnell@darnellclayton.com @darnell@one.darnell.one @darnell@darnell.moe @darnell@darnell.ooo @darnell@darnell.day @darnell@darnell.tv @darnell@darnell.africa @darnell@threads.net @darnell@darnell.co @darnell@darnell.xxx @mastofeed @Barredo I’ll make sure you are federated on Monday.

#PeerTube is awesome.

I absolutely love this piece by @molly0xfff

We can have a different web
https://www.citationneeded.news/we-can-have-a-different-web/

"The thing is: none of this is gone. Nothing about the web has changed that prevents us from going back. If anything, it's become a lot easier. We can return. Better, yet: we can restore the things we loved about the old web while incorporating the wonderful things that have emerged since"

"the skills and resources required to establish one's own sovereign plot become more accessible by the day."

Amen.

In the latest episode of #DotSocial I interview @snarfed.org, a passionate bridge builder with a focus on connecting people across the open web and the #fediverse. His latest work, #BridgyFed, connects #ActivityPub and #ATProtocol resulting in excitement, critique and *lots* of discussion.

Ryan and I talk about the parallel communities on #Mastodon and #Bluesky, their shared desire to create an open social web and the pros and cons of their underlying protocols, #ActivityPub and #ATProtocol. Can or should these be bridged? If so, how? As whole new communities continue to join the fediverse, how should the user experience evolve?

Listen to this excellent discussion on our @PeerTube instance or wherever you get your #podcasts.

https://flipboard.video/w/2Jj46hJaUQQG5TuiBYi9TR

@tokyo_0 hmmm. I'll check but I think this is a peertube limitation. In the meantime, you could try listening to the podcast in audio only on Spotify or Apple or other podcast players.

@deadsuperhero @BeAware My pleasure. Thanks for being a publisher on Flipboard! We'll be sure to feature your stuff in our tech and fediverse feeds.

@BeAware @deadsuperhero Yes, creating mags for specific areas of coverage or themes is the best way to approach curating on Flipboard. People especially like it when you manually flip in stories with a caption/perspective and then engage directly with them, which you can now do in latest release of Flipboard. You'll get a lot more followers and engagement because people value genuine human to human interaction over bots.

@BeAware You're right about the EU. But there's a maze of other privacy regulations to navigate. For example in California there's CCPA. Plus there's still a lot of legal ground to map out with posts being propagated and copied across a decentralized set of servers around the world. It's the kind of thing that drives legal departments crazy. It takes a certain amount of courage/commitment to ship a product in this environment given the potential for liability. I need to learn more about Authorized Fetch to say how much of a solution this is or isn't.

Side thread: as far as I can tell regulations like GDPR and CCPA have had limited value to consumers while being incredibly costly to implement for smaller publishers and making the whole web experience painful with yet more popups. These well intentioned regulations are making the big guys who can afford to do all this stuff stronger while making the small guys weaker and at greater risk. Ugh.

@BeAware I can see your concern re: the 30 day prompt. I was surprised to get this myself yesterday. Seems like a conservative approach to dealing with things like GDPR, etc.

From my POV I think the Threads team remains committed to federating and fully adopting ActivityPub. I'm looking forward to their two way federation launch which will make things a lot more functional and useful.

In order for the open social web to happen at scale, lots of companies and apps, big and small, need to adopt #ActivityPub. Threads is the largest player so far to do this and the implications are huge.

Why is #Threads doing this? Is federation just another feature or is it foundational to their entire experience? How is the Threads team thinking about moderation, monetization and privacy in these early days and going forward?

I asked @rklambo and @pcottle, two thoughtful and genuine leaders on the Threads team who joined me on the latest episode of #DotSocial. Check it out on our #PeerTube instance or wherever you get your podcasts.

https://flipboard.video/w/2q29uCjnHjot1CHu1CZBim

@jan @BeAware yes that is coming in a few weeks. Can’t wait.

@David_Bartlett I think we'll ultimately need ways for people who are posting content, hosting instances or building user experiences to be able to sustain their work. I think there could be a mix of ways to do that but it will be important to carefully design how these are implemented so we don't repeat the mistakes and issues we've seen with surveillance capitalism, horrible ad experiences, etc.

One of the biggest challenges we've had with current monetization models on the web is that they tend to keep users disconnected from content creators. This has lead to a lot of downstream bad practices. Some good exceptions to this are models like Patreon and paid newsletters which focus on building direct connections between creators and their audience. I think the fediverse can expand on these ideas because activity pub is a far stronger connection.

Lots to think about here but I think it will be important to figure this out for any real alternative to the walled gardens to emerge and thrive at scale.

@mpesce Good question. A bunch of people are working on that including @evan, @tchambers and @J12t. Making #activitypub easier to implement within iOS and Android apps could enable the kind of Cambrian explosion you're talking about.

The problem with building a closed social network is that it sets up an all or nothing premise for users. They might like some of the signature features but they'll leave if there's not enough people to network with. That's a shame and a huge barrier to innovation and new social products.

The #fediverse changes that forever. People can now use the features they like from a mix of apps across a common network of people. This means we can take a whole new approach to how "social" and "media" should work including discovery, user experience and monetization that will be far healthier than anything we've had in the past.

So far it appears the Israeli attack on Iran did not include an attack on nuclear facilities. CNN is reporting that Iranian state run media is currently playing it down and saying there have been "no disruptions". Meanwhile, people on X like Matt Wallace with 1.7M followers are posting that the attack was massive and showing fake images that include mushroom clouds.

@ricmac @rabble @evan @Gargron @dansup @JsonCulverhouse @greg @emilynguyen

Having said that, I think that #ActivityPub has far more adoption today than Nostr and that is only going to accelerate as more networks federate in the coming months. While Nostr has a lot of interesting ideas we can learn from, it is also quite arcane and requires an encryption key just to use it. That sets up a hard stop for non-technical people (i.e. mainstream audiences) to ever adopt it.

@ricmac Of the issues that @rabble raises the one that I think is the most important to address is:

"Each kind of fediverse server is isolated. You can use a Peertube instance to federate with other Peertubes for video, or Mobilizon for meetup-style events, or Pixelfed for Instagram-like photo sharing, or WriteFreely for blogs. But each of these is isolated. I need a new account on an instance of each of these servers. They all run the same protocol, but they aren’t actually interoperable. You can’t use a single fediverse identity with your profile and followers in Peertube, Mobilizon, WriteFreely, and Pixelfed. You need a totally separate account in each one. With Nostr, you can use dozens of apps all with your same identity, content, and followers."

cc @evan @Gargron @dansup @JsonCulverhouse @greg @emilynguyen

@sordid I personally think it's incredibly important for the future of the fediverse/social web to be truly open by default. This means not building walls for fear or profit.

I know this is a bit controversial but I think we should be more focused on tearing down walls rather than building new ones. And I think this principle should be upheld for Threads given that @potus and many others are federating from there as we speak. This is a huge win for the open social web.

Having said that, we will certainly have to continually reinforce protections and moderation in the fediverse because there will be plenty of bad actors and users. Just like any other thriving social network, there will be lots of threat vectors that we will need to address as we grow.

Fortunately I think there are a number of smart, surgical ways of doing this without having to wall off 200 million users from the fediverse, most of whom are well intentioned and will be a hugely positive addition to the vision so many here have been working toward for years.

@dansup Hah. You're one of those 10X engineers building the fediverse over the weekend for all of our benefit. Thank you.