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   Mike McCue (mike@flipboard.social)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 07:43:08 JST Mike McCue

   • Jaz (IFTAS)

   As we approach the U.S. election, misinformation and abuse are on the rise and more people are fleeing X in search of something safer and more trustworthy. This is an incredible opportunity for the #fediverse but only if we are able to maintain and expand the effectiveness of our #moderation as we scale.

   In this latest episode of Dot Social I go deep with two well known trust and safety experts who are advancing decentralized moderation for the fediverse: @samlai.bsky.social and @jaz. We discuss strengths and weaknesses today as well as what the future could hold.

   Check out the conversation on our PeerTube instance or wherever you get your podcasts.

   https://flipboard.video/w/tqZTbSmU8vhSo37Lbtg8zS

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     BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 07:43:08 JST BeAware

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     @mike can't wait to listen when I have time. I've been gravely concerned with the recent discussions not mentioning misinformation as a HUGE problem when discussing limiting replies.

     It's very concerning and reckless and my concerns have gone ignored. I hope you touch on it here.

     Always appreciate your opinions, Mike.

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     Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Friday, 02-Aug-2024 12:20:13 JST Tim Chambers

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     • Jaz (IFTAS)

     @mike @samlai.bsky.social @jaz

     Listening to this now, another great episode!

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     Mike McCue (mike@flipboard.social)'s status on Sunday, 04-Aug-2024 03:37:02 JST Mike McCue

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     @BeAware yes it's super important we build in a way to protect people from bad actors who bomb their replies or quote post malevolently.

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     BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Aug-2024 09:28:19 JST BeAware

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     • william.maggos

     @wjmaggos @mike I think a good idea would be the community notes feature that Twitter had, but I can see how it can be abused and I don't know if something like that would even theoretically be possible.

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     Mike McCue (mike@flipboard.social)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Aug-2024 09:28:20 JST Mike McCue

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     • Jaz (IFTAS)

     @wjmaggos @samlai.bsky.social @jaz what are your thoughts on why moderating misinformation might not be a good idea?

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     william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Aug-2024 09:28:20 JST william.maggos

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     @mike

     1. adds a lot to admin workload
     2. inherently political and divisive
     3. makes choosing a server more difficult
     4. impossible to do well
     5. we are the open web, not an editorial page

     I'm a dissident lefty. the culture here imo is very establishment left. Dem party basically. my hope here is to have the greatest public forum ever but we just had people very upset NYT was calling Biden too old post debate. if we were more diverse, bringing that up pre debate could easily get moderated away.

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     william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Aug-2024 09:28:21 JST william.maggos

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     • Jaz (IFTAS)

     @mike @samlai.bsky.social @jaz

     will listen but so far I'm not sold on moderating for misinformation being a good idea. absolutely for harassment.

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     BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Aug-2024 09:32:31 JST BeAware

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     • william.maggos

     @wjmaggos @mike Well, this won't work when Mastodon adds the limiting replies feature which is what worries me regarding misinformation.

     However, it is a good idea, barring that feature.

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     william.maggos (wjmaggos@liberal.city)'s status on Tuesday, 06-Aug-2024 09:32:32 JST william.maggos

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     @BeAware @mike

     my hope is that we could do that just by making all replies ranked ala reddit. the best responses would show up right underneath the OP. this might also fix the reply guy problem as the worst replies to the most popular accounts would be the least likely to be seen.

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     Mike McCue (mike@flipboard.social)'s status on Friday, 09-Aug-2024 13:56:49 JST Mike McCue

     • Jaz (IFTAS)
     • BeAware

     @BeAware @samlai.bsky.social @jaz Thanks! I don't think we want moderation to be exclusive. It's more about trying to establish a place where a) moderation professionals can collaborate and b) moderation decisions can be made in a way which don't invite abuse of the individuals making the decisions.

     I totally agree that moderation decisions should be evidence based and publicly available to other admins.