Merkel's dad was a captain in the Hitler Youth and her father participated in the Krystallnacht.
Klaus Schwab's rich because his grandfather sold flamethrowers and gas chamber ventillation systems to Hitler.
The same people that would have been on Hitler's side have not changed sides: Hitler was disposable, the branding was disposable. It's been disposed of. Hitler himself rambled extensively about how all the terrible shit was because of foreign nations and Jews while simultaneously putting a boot on your neck and you are telling me "Well, it's just the Jews, it's just Jews trying to stop anti-semitism." They changed the scapegoat, because the scapegoat was disposable. You've got the boot back on your neck and you think they're different because they are flying a different flag.
@p@wizardmanperson that's why infinity immigration from shitholes is a high priority for them too. Make people fight each other while increasing gov control for "security".
@p@teto@wizardmanperson normies and "unpolitical" people in germany have radicalized to an extreme level in the last few years it's unreal. However for a german this still means doing nothing and hiding your anger to your basement. They only do something when their government and higher-ups tells them to unleash their collective barbarism towards anything but them
@adiz@teto@wizardmanperson Well, tetojaeger's point is that this is all secretly the Jews' fault, despite the people doing it being full-blooded grandchildren of Nazis.
@adiz@teto@p@wizardmanperson it's free in the sense of current day liberalism. After all why not extend negative freedoms to literally anything that makes human interactions human? Why not call cops to storm someones house because they called one a dickhead online? What even objectively qualifies as infringement of ones freedom? The flaws of the liberal logic is showing it's sillyness in full effect
@p@teto@adiz@wizardmanperson I mean I used to disregard such arguments as the equivalent of ultraleft commies dismissing all socialist history as "not real socialism, heccin authoritarian deviation". However at this point I don't even know if the US persists as an entity in 50 years at this point. Perhaps non-socialist low tech low civ anarchists might be onto something if the US fails as a centralized government and falls apart. We even see far right libertarian militias joining up with authentic black lives matter people to protest government overreach on gun laws. It would be a major blow to leftlib college people if the fall of the government would not lead to an american white reich but instead people of all races peacefully and decentrally associating with the firm handshake of an honest merchant and an AR 15 on their back just to be sure.
> ultraleft commies dismissing all socialist history as "not real socialism, heccin authoritarian deviation".
I think that, since Bernays (whose fans included Dulles, FDR, Lenin, Hitler, basically every catastrophic), mass-communications have been a tool for manufacturing consent.
> However at this point I don't even know if the US persists as an entity in 50 years at this point.
Unless it starts to get better really fast, it's going to get way worse before it gets any better.
> We even see far right libertarian militias joining up with authentic black lives matter people to protest government overreach on gun laws.
Oh, yeah. Gavin Newsom wanted to ban gun sales because guns can spread the 'rona, and the biggest protest came from the Dumpling Republic in the San Gabriel Valley, and he had to back down. LA is still the southwest, even if it's in California.
@p@teto@BleachWaffen@Witch_Hunter_Siegfried You can't look at the US and Israel and say Jews as a whole are fine, and you can't look at the EU and say Germans as a whole are fine
@mrsaturday@teto@BleachWaffen@p I won't argue brain-washed Germans don't exist and in large numbers, The DIFFERENCE is jews have always been like this, for Germans it's post war propaganda (and not like every other Western country isn't stuck with the same sorts)
@Witch_Hunter_Siegfried@teto@BleachWaffen@p Germans it's the same sort of overarching nanny state autism that pops up when you don't give them all their tiny little fiefdoms to pull their sociocratic experiments on. Yes, that includes the Nazis. Retvrn to HRE
@mrsaturday@teto@Witch_Hunter_Siegfried@p I can because who made holohoax myth kikes did who poisoned the water during mid evil times kikes did who brought the plague into europe kikes did and every situation kikes are the problem
@p@BleachWaffen@Witch_Hunter_Siegfried@mrsaturday@teto Dirlewanger got his just deserts by getting beaten to death by a bunch of GIs who found him somewhere in Bavaria. I think pretty much the same of Stepan Bandera who got some 9mm Aspirin for his /pol/tardation in Munich by a KGB assets in 1955 (, I think).
> It hasn't transformed the US into a Social Democratic hellhole without a war.
That wasn't the goal. This is like saying Planned Parenthood's goal was to empower women.
The goal was to pull several important industries into federal control and to get people to give up essential freedoms while accelerating the rush to the cities. It was a resounding success.
> Economically speaking, it was a abject failure
It was terrible, economically, but the economy was an acceptable loss. The point was as stated.
> His guys where KPD Members like the nice people from the Ulbricht Group who have been flown in by the Soviets.
As I said, Stalin wanted to put his own people in charge, and did. I don't know what you mean to convey. I think you're saying Ulbricht was a bad guy; I'll take your word.
@p@teto@BleachWaffen@Witch_Hunter_Siegfried@mrsaturday > It did not. It did. It hasn't transformed the US into a Social Democratic hellhole without a war. Economically speaking, it was a abject failure and its policies had to wait for a while.
> I don't know what you mean to convey. His guys where KPD Members like the nice people from the Ulbricht Group who have been flown in by the Soviets.
There are hardly any English sources about the Group itself but plenty about Walther Ulbricht himself.
@p@teto@BleachWaffen@Witch_Hunter_Siegfried@mrsaturday I mentioned Thaellmann, because he was the actual general Secretary of the KPD during most of WW2 until he got a case of the death at Buchenwald. Some sped could bring him up ask ITT why Stalin didn't pick him.
@p@BleachWaffen@Witch_Hunter_Siegfried@mrsaturday@teto He was convicted of improper relations with a 14yo girl but the court found he didn’t actually have sex with her. He got in trouble because he did want to bang her, however, German law at the time made sex with a person below 21 rape. Idiot went to ask the girl’s parents for permission to adopt her. Yeah, not the best move.
Before that conviction, he had academic titles and honors. All lost and all status also lost.
He was pretty good at warcraft which is why they gave him a literal Suicide Squad full of convicts to take on the impossible missions, which he did, mostly successfully.
@BleachWaffen I'm going to treat this request like the Hitler-humpers have treated my request to stop hearing them repeat Zundel's talking points and completely ignore it. You know where the block button is. gayhitler.gif
@sysrq@dcc@teto@pernia@p@wizardmanperson I used to think nazis were gay. Today I discover that they're actually super mega gay... I can't believe how wrong I was.
Hitler himself was a fan of the aphorism that history is written by the victors; it is difficult to have it both ways.
I've heard plenty of attempts to minimize wartime atrocities (and in his case, interbellum also); it becomes easy to write off "actually, the sky has never been blue" if you hear it enough times. And some historians on the other side like to insist that the sky is always blue, never grey or black, and I've seen too many instances of those historians exaggerations used to insist that the sky is *never* blue. Schenk, Bach-Zelewski, Fegelein, Himmler all had roughly the same estimation of the guy, and they were not owned by the Allies: they were all Nazis that knew him personally. The Polish soldiers singled him out and tortured him to death, and I can make my inferences from there.
@p@BleachWaffen@Witch_Hunter_Siegfried@mrsaturday@teto Apparently, the historic record indicate that he, in fact, didn’t fuck any kid whatosoever. Sort of avant garde Woody Allen, except that Woody actually did get to both adopt AND fuck the girl.
@SilverDeth Well, to be fair, I hopped into this one because teto chose a coward's death after the other thread in which I was describing Germany's involvement in the censorship of the internet.
> other ridiculous hoaxes that the web has doctored to push memetic conditioning unto us.
Sure. But you get the same thing on page after page after page of results if you mash "haversine formula" into the box. I'm with you on the possibility of doctored history, but sometimes it's not a psyop, it's just that there's not a plausible alternative version.
When you look up something on the web and it all the sites at the top of the search results (pages, pages, and pages of them) say EXACTLY the same thing, it reminds me of the Rona psyop, the Holohoax, the Galileo trial, heart-healthy diets and other ridiculous hoaxes that the web has doctored to push memetic conditioning unto us.
I’m no dark web surfer but I’m sure if I were, some things I would find would surprise me but this stinks of recent mythology as it is obviously astroturfed.
Sorry but I won’t buy into this narrative. I don’t believe national socialists were sinless by any means but the truth is they lost the conflict and they get to absorb any accusations foisted upon them by that fact whereas the Allies’ atrocities will be forever covered up and forgiven by the reversed outcome.
I’m no criminologist so I am not versed in assessing people souls based on physiognomy. A picture showing something the person doing something may but this would depend heavily on knowing the context .