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   👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 13:45:56 JST 👺防空識別區👹

   AI is legitimately going to fuck up technology and the Internet. Shit like "vibe coding" is going to be devastating for software development and resources taxation on hardware.

   There is no such thing as a reality where hardware improves while software remains at a static or improving level of efficiency---software and code inefficiency and slop will, rather, increase to fill the resources surplus provided by gains in hardware development. Your computer will always run hot, will always have mediocre battery life, and will always perform "average" despite gains in hardware.

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     prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 13:45:55 JST prettygood

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     @adiz bookmarking this so I can look at it again in a year when all of the AI companies have crashed and none of the nocoders can get free gibs anymore.
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     👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 19:20:24 JST 👺防空識別區👹

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     @frawst Old software and OSs run phenomenally well on contemporary hardware. We can write light, performant programs with efficient and sane code. We just don't. Because the hardware allows us to not have to.

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     Frawst (frawst@fedi.fraw.st)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 19:20:25 JST Frawst

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     @adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa this only gets worse when you consider the fact that hardware hasn't really been improving beyond cranking the power up to eek out more performance
     at some point the only way forward will be to clean up our act and write good code

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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 19:22:25 JST pistolero

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     @prettygood @adiz
     
     > bookmarking this so I can look at it again in a year when all of the AI companies have crashed
     
     They've hit the point where they are no longer spending money on user acquisition, but no one knows how to make it profitable yet, so you might not even have to wait until next year.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 19:39:12 JST pistolero

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     > Then advantage: Facebook (I refuse to call it Meta), Google and Twitter, because they have other ways of making money.
     
     Really depends on who is funding the company.
     
     It's a game of chicken: whoever stops spending money first loses. So the VCs that are pumping money into it will keep pumping money into it. The businesses you have named are not going to endanger their other more lucrative products to stay in the game. Google and Facebook have the cash, Microsoft is always willing to throw good money after bad. If I were betting, I'd say Microsoft wins this round. Facebook isn't really in this game: they keep dumping free models on the public in order to get the other companies to spend more money on AI and neglect the areas where Facebook actually wants to compete.
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     Judge Dread (judgedread@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 19:39:13 JST Judge Dread

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     @p Then advantage: Facebook (I refuse to call it Meta), Google and Twitter, because they have other ways of making money. Much the way Amazon subsidizes their money losing streaming service with the profits from mail order.
     
     BTW Twitter as X will be profitable eventually once he gets Trump to legalize him turning it into Paypal 2.0.
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     Judge Dread (judgedread@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 19:47:40 JST Judge Dread

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     @p I'm saying they will be the last men standing when the VC money dries up because they don't depend on it at all.
     
     Well, unless one of the VC funded companies actually creates transhuman intelligence...
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 19:49:13 JST pistolero

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     > I'm saying they will be the last men standing when the VC money dries up because they don't depend on it at all.
     
     The VCs don't depend on VC money, either. The VCs know who they're spending against, anyway. They're usually playing for an acquisition when this happens.
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     Nietzschean Ekko Enjoyer (r000t@ligma.pro)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 20:18:06 JST Nietzschean Ekko Enjoyer

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     @p
     Why do none of them know how to do a lean startup?
     @adiz @prettygood

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     silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 21:18:31 JST silverpill

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     >We just don't

     Some of us do.

     High quality software won't disappear, but the gap between it and overhyped bloatware is going to increase substantially, and that may even have the opposite effect to the one you're expecting.

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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 21:21:09 JST Fish of Rage

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     @silverpill @frawst @adiz the market decided that lean software is not a feature wanted sadly
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 21:28:04 JST Phantasm

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     >There is no such thing as a reality where hardware improves while software remains at a static or improving level of efficiency---software and code inefficiency and slop will, rather, increase to fill the resources surplus provided by gains in hardware development. Your computer will always run hot, will always have mediocre battery life, and will always perform "average" despite gains in hardware.
     
     That's fine, just buy a newer computer. You consumer.
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     silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 21:46:30 JST silverpill

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     @sun @frawst @adiz Consumer preferences are heavily influenced by fashion, but in the long run efficiency trumps everything else

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     Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: (tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 22:37:49 JST Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:

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     @frawst @adiz We're pushing our limited and inefficient technology to its limits, for sure.
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     prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 23:51:26 JST prettygood

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     @r000t @p @adiz burning all that money was the entire point of OpenAI, and I suspect other companies have tried the same thing. They figured that if they built a 'moat', in the form of "we spend $100B to get this far", that they could effectively monopolize the market that way, because nobody would or could try to match it. The problem is, like with certain economic policies, is that eventually you run out of other people's data. So now they're left with an incredibly enormous industrial capacity for processing data into a model, where there's no more good new data to use. The Tiger tanks have no gasoline.
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     Nietzschean Ekko Enjoyer (r000t@ligma.pro)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 03:04:47 JST Nietzschean Ekko Enjoyer

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     @prettygood
     My shit's already got fair pricing built in for end users. It's the businesses and people who need heavy ACLs I'm fucking.

     I'm kicking around the free tier being a link to some on-device app like "lol here ya go come back when you got $20/year"
     @p @adiz

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     Nietzschean Ekko Enjoyer (r000t@ligma.pro)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 03:05:49 JST Nietzschean Ekko Enjoyer

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     @prettygood
     Like I want the bulk of my users to be on a plan they yolo'd into because they get a year of AgentV3N for what OpenAI is charing per month.
     @p @adiz

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 03:14:16 JST iced depresso

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     @prettygood @p @r000t @adiz its kind of hilarious to watch billionaires blow so many resources trying to brute force transformers. we already know that scaling a transformer doesn't work, and they can't do maths and logics. they are burning all this money on technology that will be replaced with something cheaper when people act just slightly less moronic.
     
     the field of spike networks and cortical chips is largely ignored for some reason
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 10:38:46 JST pistolero

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     @r000t @adiz @prettygood They do, it's just not played in the current meta.
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     Judge Dread (judgedread@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 10:56:24 JST Judge Dread

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     @p It's analogous to the dotcom bubble. There was a real business opportunity there, but most of the IPOs cashing in on it were scams.
     
     Even short of 'human equivalent AI' (whatever that is) things like AI driven cars and trucks are going to be very profitable.
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     Nietzschean Ekko Enjoyer (r000t@ligma.pro)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 11:09:56 JST Nietzschean Ekko Enjoyer

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     @p @adiz @prettygood fuck the meta. I'm a "don't get beholden to investors" one trick

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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 11:32:46 JST pistolero

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     > There was a real business opportunity there, but most of the IPOs cashing in on it were scams.
     
     Massive hype attracts sociopaths, and they tend to be good at adding hype.
     
     > (whatever that is)
     
     I've been putting on Hamming's lectures lately. (They were not properly ordered when I took the first pass, so I watched half of them and I don't know which half until I get ten or fifteen minutes in; not important.) Rewatched his lectures about AI, and one of his points was that nobody's got a satisfactory definition of "intelligence" or "thinking", and that, whether or not you believe in the possibility of a machine that is the equivalent of a human or you believe in a soul (he insisted that both beliefs will lead you to make big mistakes in your use of technology that will torch your career), the important thing to do is get comfortable with ambiguity, because it's going to get weird. I think he was overly optimistic about the timeline after which investors would jump back in (the lectures were from 1995, so not too long after the 80s AI crash), so it's nice to have run into it now. (He maintained that the question of whether a machine could do what a human does was pointless and that he was more interested in what humans using machines could do, and complained that this opinion was unpopular.)
     
     > things like AI driven cars and trucks are going to be very profitable.
     
     I'm skeptical that this autonomous vehicles will work out before the end of 32-bit timers or that this is the most profitable use for this sort of thing. I mean, look at Roomba: Amazon offered just $1.7B (about 1% of OpenAI's valuation) for the company that has an effective monopoly on these tiny devices that still have trouble navigating a house. Look at the stock: https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/irbt . Boston Dynamics sold the Hyundai for $1.1B five years ago, and both of those companies have plenty of fat government contracts.
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     ins0mniak (ins0mniak@mikoshidata.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 11:32:54 JST ins0mniak

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     @judgedread @p I worked for a startup once. It got raided by the IRS.
     
     The big red flag was when 5 months in they hired Crystal Method to play the Christmas party.
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     Ricky (ricky@pmth.us)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 11:41:47 JST Ricky

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     @adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa TIME TO STUDY CYBER SECURITY!

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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 11:43:43 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     @phnt @adiz
     hereisyourbugsloserr.png
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 11:47:45 JST pistolero

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     @icedquinn @prettygood @adiz @r000t
     
     > they can't do maths and logics.
     
     I decided I love the current AI hype bubble suddenly.
     
     I was kinda generally morose when I realized the finance psychopaths had seized control of the spergs' last refuge and was wondering what would restore the natural order. These guys way, way over-investing in a hype bubble that promises an entire utopia that it has no hope of delivering, that's something that has a pretty good chance of restoring the natural order.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 11:50:31 JST pistolero

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     @r000t @adiz @prettygood That's reasonable, I'm with you on that. But small business models don't get press.
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     Judge Dread (judgedread@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 12:46:56 JST Judge Dread

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     @p Self driving cars should have to compete in the Cannonball Run.
     
     When they can win they become street legal.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 12:53:39 JST pistolero

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     @judgedread I'll accept that this is a good way to decide it if you can find a new Burt Reynolds and a new Jackie Chan and whoever else. Was Andre the Giant in that?
     
     Anyway, you know my position on society being more dangerous.
     life_is_a_video_game.mp4
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     Judge Dread (judgedread@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 13:08:26 JST Judge Dread

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     @p New Burt Reynolds... whew... best I can do is Ryan Reynolds riding a dinosaur.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 13:09:50 JST pistolero

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     @judgedread We'll just use Tom Hardy, on the grounds that he was pretty good at being a guy that was named after a guy that looked kind of like Burt Reynolds.
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     Judge Dread (judgedread@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 13:11:54 JST Judge Dread

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     @p Bronson reference?
     
     I didn't know you had it in you.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 13:13:44 JST pistolero

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     @judgedread "Once Upon a Time in the West" and its sequel, "Bronson", were both excellent movies.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 13:42:48 JST Hoss Delgado

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     "Open"AI isn't coping well with DeepSeek completely gutting their business model now that anybody can run local versions of models that they fought so hard to keep behind their proprietary black box.
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     Judge Dread (judgedread@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 13:53:01 JST Judge Dread

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     @p Facts.
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     gentoobro (gentoobro@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 13:55:01 JST gentoobro

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     And yet so many people just sit around playing the minigames that don't progress the story.

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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 13:55:29 JST pistolero

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     @gentoobro @judgedread Lotta people don't wanna do a boss fight.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 13:57:36 JST pistolero

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     @Hoss @prettygood @adiz It's pretty cool; the open stuff (or at least self-hosting stuff) kind of sets a floor and if it can get 60-70% of the way there, no one's going to pay for a subscription except businesses.
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     gentoobro (gentoobro@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 13:58:15 JST gentoobro

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     It was only a matter of time until some real programmers got around to optimizing it all.

     As a general rule, if your solution is "giant matrices", then you are doing it wrong. Matrices are a very mathematician-minded approach that is seldom even vaguely efficient.

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     gentoobro (gentoobro@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 14:02:13 JST gentoobro

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     It's either that or never level up, an increasingly risky course of action.

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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 14:02:30 JST pistolero

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     @gentoobro @judgedread To say nothing of the loot.
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     👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 14:50:41 JST 👺防空識別區👹

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     @Hoss Good. Fuck them. Anyone who exhibits anti-Promethean behavior should be slaughtered. @p @prettygood

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 15:51:53 JST iced depresso

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     @p @r000t @adiz @prettygood i am fairly certain we have the technology to build the real one. or something close to it.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 15:58:54 JST iced depresso

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     @Sophistifunk @p @prettygood @adiz @r000t @bonifartius they already shit their pants when deepseek came out.
     
     they have built their whole play on the old industrialist tactic of "i have money and you don't so i get to dictate all terms" and then found out they've just been wasting their money on inefficiency :cat_sad:
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     Mr Funk 🇦🇺 (sophistifunk@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 15:58:55 JST Mr Funk 🇦🇺

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     @p @icedquinn @prettygood @adiz @r000t @bonifartius it’s gonna be raining cheap GPUs when the investor class finally notices the emperor’s dick waving around in the wind 😎

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 16:43:44 JST iced depresso

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     @bonifartius @Sophistifunk @p @prettygood @adiz @r000t all is not lost blob :blobcatsmilehappy: https://blob.cat/notice/AsXXtg4EqjXViVIRpQ
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     :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 16:43:45 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄

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     @Sophistifunk @p @icedquinn @prettygood @adiz @r000t we only need good games again now xD

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     Leyonhjelm (leyonhjelm@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 17:46:05 JST Leyonhjelm

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     @judgedread
     
     A lot of the dotcom bubble was good faith nerds with no business acumen getting taken for a ride by VC and Management people who stole an earnest idea and turned it into a pump and dump
     
     @p
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 18:14:19 JST pistolero

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     @icedquinn @adiz @prettygood @r000t Close to what?
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 18:15:37 JST pistolero

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     @Sophistifunk @icedquinn @prettygood @adiz @r000t @bonifartius Doubtful; they'll go back to mining.
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     :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 29-Mar-2025 18:16:20 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄

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     @icedquinn @p @r000t @adiz @Sophistifunk @prettygood
     > inZOI’s realistic graphics allow players to immerse themselves in the life they have dreamed of.

     strong vibes of "stange days". good that people seem to like indie drug dealer games better :)

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